# Strange New Worlds season 2 to start June 15, 2023

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [June 3, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959 "2023-06-03T15:25:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/21 "2023-06-17T05:10:39Z")

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HA! (And more characters to appease Discourse.)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/22 "2023-06-17T14:31:22Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Its post TNG and DS9 - but not by much.
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> approximately 120 years post ‘The Cage’ (2259) and is set in 2380.

So does the presence of Boimler and Mariner in _Strange New Worlds_ imply a time travel episode?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/23 "2023-06-17T14:32:45Z")

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Absolutely -

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/24 "2023-06-17T14:34:53Z")

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I figured it was ‘Hulk Serum’…

My bigger issue was that the Klingons were nerfed in this episode - not because amped up M’Benga or Chapel could fight them - but because of the first one:

I know the federation rules against torture!  
**gets punched**  
Ok - I’ll tell you everything!

And even outside of that - I fully enjoyed the episode. Can’t wait to see Pike have a little talk with Spock:

So, you’re telling me - I was gone for an entire 5 minutes before you stole the ship?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/25 "2023-06-17T17:12:01Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> My bigger issue was that the Klingons were nerfed in this episode - not because amped up M’Benga or Chapel could fight them - but because of the first one:
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> I know the federation rules against torture!  
> **gets punched**  
> Ok - I’ll tell you everything!

I mean, they can’t all be badasses. Remember Alexander?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/26 "2023-06-17T19:02:19Z")

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A Klingon in the original series gave up when a tribble was brought near him.

Klingons talk a good game, but some of them are just not that tough.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/27 "2023-06-17T19:41:22Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I mean, they can’t all be badasses. Remember Alexander?

He was only 3/4 Klingon, I guess he was 1/4 wimp.

> [@simster](#):
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> So, you’re telling me - I was gone for an entire 5 minutes before you stole the ship?

I would not be surprised if that was the exact line word-for-word.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/28 "2023-06-17T20:45:49Z")

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I’m just struck by how much Carol Kane’s character reminds me of my bubbie may her memory be a blessing.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/29 "2023-06-17T20:52:35Z")

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I love Carol Kane as the chief engineer. She should be a hoot. Good addition to the cast, and it’s great to see her getting the work.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/30 "2023-06-17T22:51:17Z")

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Fun episode. Carol Kane is great, but I still hold out a slim hope that Hemmer is still alive and will be rescued this season.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/31 "2023-06-17T23:35:28Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> I’m just struck by how much Carol Kane’s character reminds me of my bubbie may her memory be a blessing.

So you are saying you are part Lanthanite?

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/32 "2023-06-17T23:52:03Z")

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From what I have heard, Hemmer is not coming back. But the actor IS coming back as another member of the species, so he’ll probably be the same basic character.

The show runners said they planned for his death before the character became so popular. He was basically supposed to be a red shirt, but he was so good he got more and more screen time, and now they wish they hadn’t killed him. So they are bringing him back in a way that doesn’t break the show.

There’s a very Star Trekkie way they could have brought Hemmer back, though: His species maintains clone backups, with downloaded memory backups. They are a species of engineers, after all. They could have said that Hemmer’s last backup was before he joined Starfleet, so you could basically reset Hemmer back to where he was at the beginning of the series.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/33 "2023-06-18T00:12:39Z")

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I read all that already - producers often lie about that kind of thing (to maintain surprise), and I think there’s an even easier way to bring him back if the producers want to - just have him survive and call for help. The deep snow cushioned his landing, he’s adapted for cold, and the temperature kept the Gorn from hatching and killing him. We didn’t see him die, and in Star Trek much stranger things have happened.

But who knows.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/34 "2023-06-18T06:53:16Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Carol Kane is great, but I still hold out a slim hope that Hemmer is still alive and will be rescued this season.

Don’t do that to me. He was my favorite character and I can’t afford to have false hope to see him again.

RIP you beautiful blind grump.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/35 "2023-06-18T21:08:21Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It was green so I assume it was a spinach hypospray.

I thought it was more of that experimental cosmetic serum from last season and they were going to pretend to be Klingon.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/36 "2023-06-18T21:55:50Z")

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I would like the ship to go…now. So funny, so very funny.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/37 "2023-06-18T22:29:22Z")

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That’s the moment borrowed from _Lower Decks_ I mentioned. The captain was wandering around trying to think up her catch phrase:

**Captain Carol Freeman** : I’ve really got to think of something cool to say when we’re going to warp… something like, “it’s warp time.” What do you think of that? Was that good for you?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/38 "2023-06-18T22:56:16Z")

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Remind me: what was Kirk’s line?

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/39 "2023-06-18T23:13:22Z")

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The catchphrase is a more modern thing.

> **[Seven of Nine Joins Star Trek's Weirdest Captain's Tradition](https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-seven-of-nine-captain-tradition/)**
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> An impromptu tradition has sprung up among modern day Star Trek series. It proliferated so quickly that Picard and Seven of Nine now make fun of it.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/40 "2023-06-18T23:18:22Z")

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I don’t believe he had one. He said a few different things.

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