# Strange New Worlds season 2 to start June 15, 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [June 3, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959 "2023-06-03T15:25:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/41 "2023-06-19T00:31:54Z")

</div>

Yes, Kirk would most often simply say “Warp factor five, Mr. Sulu” and Sulu would reply “Aye, warp factor five” and hit the buttons – or something resembling that. This was of course in keeping with established seamanship practice of repeat-checking the order, but not requiring a command of execution. Similarly happens in aviation, where you are given the clearance to take off and you confirm you have been cleared to take off, and then if everything looks to be in order and safe just take off.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/42 "2023-06-19T18:09:02Z")

</div>

Yeah, think the command ‘thing’ started with Picard and ‘engage’.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/43 "2023-06-21T04:41:42Z")

</div>

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
>
> That’s the moment borrowed from _Lower Decks_ I mentioned. The captain was wandering around trying to think up her catch phrase:

It was more prominent in _Discovery_, which this show spun off of. If it inherited from anything, it was that.

In Season 3, Episode 8, it’s actually a subplot rather than a throwaway line.

> **[‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Begins the Search for the Perfect Captain Catchphrase](https://decider.com/2020/12/03/star-trek-discovery-explores-sarus-catchphrase/)**
>
> Manifest!

> As for Saru? Tilly has been workshopping suggestions when this week’s episode opens, including “execute,” “hit it,” and “manifest.” Nobody, it turns out, likes “manifest,” and Saru aptly points out that Pike already used “hit it.” Instead, Saru ends up doing a little bit of focus-grouping on the bridge itself, first saying “carry on” and then trying out “execute.”

I’d say this was definitely a callback to this episode.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/44 "2023-06-21T05:07:47Z")

</div>

I didn’t remember that. Maybe I’m successfully blocking most of _Discovery_ from my memory.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/45 "2023-06-21T05:18:44Z")

</div>

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
>
> Maybe I’m successfully blocking most of _Discovery_ from my memory.

ROFL, it is definitely an acquired taste, and there are certain episodes that I’ve probably expunged as well.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that some of my favorite episodes were the ones with Pike in them.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/46 "2023-06-21T07:41:42Z")

</div>

I’m tickled to see #1 is being prosecuted by Mrs. McMurray from Letterkenney.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/47 "2023-06-21T18:42:05Z")

</div>

And the last bit of the last ep of Picard.

The joke is way overdone by now but they’ve written themselves in to make the catch phrase a big thing. It will be hard to return to the Kirk no specific catch phrase norm but future catch phrases will suffer from excessive awareness.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/48 "2023-06-21T18:44:52Z")

</div>

> [@DSeid](#):
>
> It will be hard to return to the Kirk no specific catch phrase norm but future catch phrases will suffer from excessive awareness.

It’s definitely a thing now.

I could totally see the explanation for Kirk being, he was too cool for a catch phrase. Which fits the character IMHO.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/49 "2023-06-21T18:48:28Z")

</div>

Are Lanthanites a new thing in _Star Trek_? At first I thought Carol Kane’s character might be the same species as Whoopi Goldberg’s, but apparently not.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/50 "2023-06-21T19:08:36Z")

</div>

> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
>
> At first I thought Carol Kane’s character might be the same species as Whoopi Goldberg’s, but apparently not.

She was an El-Aurian, that species has come up in a few storylines on different shows and was key to the _Generations_ film.

I’m familiar with most of the major Trek species (I’m a nerd) but the Lanthanites are new to me. I did a quick search and apparently Carol Kane’s character was the first one on screen, and that species has never even been mentioned before. They apparently created it for that episode.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/51 "2023-06-21T22:00:24Z")

</div>

A little late to the party. I thought the premier was fine. The fighting against the Klingons was way way too long. The ship combat is too Star Wars IMO. All this you need a catchphrase talk was stupid. Once again the internet turned a cute joke into something tedious. Beyond that I enjoyed it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/52 "2023-06-22T00:20:21Z")

</div>

I thought Kirk’s was, “Second star to the right and straight on till morning”.

> [@JRDelirious](#):
>
> Similarly happens in aviation, where you are given the clearance to take off and you confirm you have been cleared to take off . . .

Would that be clearance, Clarence?  
.  
.  
.  
.  
.

Roger, Roger.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/53 "2023-06-22T00:30:04Z")

</div>

> [@gregorio](#):
>
> I thought Kirk’s was, “Second star to the right and straight on till morning”.

That was Captain Peter Tiberius Pan, who fought epic battles against the Klingon known as H’ukh.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/54 "2023-06-22T00:50:47Z")

</div>

Tick

Tick

Tick

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![sohvan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sohvan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sohvan)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/55 "2023-06-23T05:31:51Z")

</div>

I thought episode 2 was excellent. One of my favorites of the series.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/56 "2023-06-23T05:41:44Z")

</div>

I thought it was very well-written.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/57 "2023-06-23T08:38:58Z")

</div>

The episode “A Quality of Mercy” is sort-of a remake of the original series episode “Balance of Terror”. Except this wonders what happens if captain Pike is commanding the Enterprise and fights the Romulans. It’s pretty fun to watch.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/58 "2023-06-23T11:59:08Z")

</div>

Episode 2 was great. It teetered on the knife’s edge of laying things on too thick but stayed on the good side of that line. One issue, and this is the fundamental issue with prequels, is we knew she would be absolved because we know she stays on as XO but that is a minor quibble.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/59 "2023-06-23T13:18:21Z")

</div>

spock’s outburst was humourous.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/60 "2023-06-23T13:30:26Z")

</div>

Is it just me or does the splash opening of the series remind anybody else of the “The More You Know…” graphic?

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959.md?page=2)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959.md?page=4)
