# Strange New Worlds season 2 to start June 15, 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [June 3, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959 "2023-06-03T15:25:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/61 "2023-06-23T13:39:23Z")
Has anybody _ever_ been convicted in a Star Fleet court martial? No wonder officers ignore admirals, defy the prime directive, and steal starships willy-nilly. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/62 "2023-06-23T13:45:25Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Has anybody _ever_ been convicted in a Star Fleet court martial? Just one, but we aren’t allowed to discuss her anymore due to Starfleet regulations. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/63 "2023-06-23T14:40:13Z")
We are led to believe Star Fleet captains only violate orders with really good reason and the results are so excellent (save a planet, save Star Fleet, save the universe) no one has the heart to court martial them. Although we have seen a few captains go truly bad over the years. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/64 "2023-06-23T14:52:45Z")
But they mostly didn’t survive to face court martial. Ditto the crazy admirals. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/65 "2023-06-23T15:05:53Z")
The ignominy of a court martial is more than any could bear. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/66 "2023-06-23T16:20:25Z")
Huh. I thought it was … fine. It just seems to be existing in a universe that the last episode had not occurred in. The disconnect is disconcerting. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/67 "2023-06-23T20:31:44Z")
yes, yes it does. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/68 "2023-06-23T22:40:38Z")
I got the impression the Enterprise was going on the previous adventure while Pike was seeking the lawyer but by at some point they caught up and returned to port for the trial. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/69 "2023-06-29T19:12:57Z")
Episode 3 was one of the best ST time travel episodes ever. Right up there with “The City on the Edge of Forever”. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/70 "2023-06-29T19:40:18Z")
I’m feeling lukewarm to the new season compared to the excellent previous season as well as Pike’s episodes of Star Trek: Michael Cries. Episode 1 was a simple action episode unfortunately padded out with long repetitive super-serum fights. OK, but I’ll likely never rewatch. Episode 2 felt overly long, and the legal gotcha was unsurprising. I’m also a bit annoyed with the constant “Starfleet brass as villains” theme–for such a supposedly progressive and benevolent organization in the galaxy, they seem to be exclusively run by mustache-twirling bureaucrats constantly trying to destroy their coworkers and organization from within. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/71 "2023-06-29T20:07:47Z")
I’m so fed up with time travel and multiverse stories, the fact that I didn’t totally hate episode 3 must speak to it’s quality. Just wondering; how many games of chess did Kirk have to win to pay for that snazzy hotel room? ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/72 "2023-06-29T21:44:56Z")
Especially given the obvious difficulty of fining someone to play against him after winning so many games. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/73 "2023-06-29T21:46:49Z")
Those losers looked absolutely gleeful to hand over their wagers. I know they’re Canadians but…sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/74 "2023-06-29T21:58:42Z")
That was great. Mostly goofy fun with just enough pathos and seriousness. Did expect Peila (sp?) to connect after. She should remember her, right? It now happened in her past. But this was fun enough to be able to ignore much. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/75 "2023-06-29T21:59:15Z")
It’s Toronto not New York! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/76 "2023-06-29T22:18:04Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Did expect Peila (sp?) to connect after. She should remember her, right? It now happened in her past. But this was fun enough to be able to ignore much. First of all, there’s no reason to believe that she’d connect the mysterious woman she met briefly 300 years ago to a random crew member, if she even remembers her. But even if she _did_ recognize La’an when she came aboard the Enterprise, La’an obviously didn’t recognized her, so she had to assume that the time travel hadn’t taken place yet, and wouldn’t say anything. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/77 "2023-06-29T22:26:02Z")
Guinan didn’t spill the beans to Picard, either. It’s a well-established trope that you don’t reveal yourself to the time-traveling friend the ~~first~~ second time they show up in your life. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/78 "2023-06-29T22:32:57Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > It’s Toronto not New York! I literally laughed out loud when she said that. It’s such a beautiful meta joke. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/79 "2023-06-29T22:34:30Z")
That was the similar scene I was expecting. After Picard returned Guinan and him in Ten Forward. Keeping it mum until then. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/80 "2023-06-30T00:20:25Z")
It was an OK episode, but not great. Way too much filler, too much pointless walking around, etc. It just wasn’t paced well. I guess it was supposed to echo “The City on the Edge of Forever” from TOS. It had a similar theme - time travel required to repair a broken timeline, traveling to current-day Earth, a tragic romance in the past, etc. But compared to that episode, this one was a snooze-fest. And Anson Mount has been almost completely missing for the first two of three shows. I wonder if he had a conflict or something. It also seems like they are building up the character of Kirk and giving the new Kirk a lot of screen time. I suspect they are prepping for another spinoff. Young Kirk on the Farragut or something. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959.md?page=5)