# Strange New Worlds season 2 to start June 15, 2023

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [June 3, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959 "2023-06-03T15:25:09Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/81 "2023-06-30T00:26:35Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> It also seems like they are building up the character of Kirk and giving the new Kirk a lot of screen time.

I wonder if they could follow him into the TOS timeline and manage not to conflict with anything in the original show (save the actors and production values). The day _after_ or _before_ some of those old stories might be…fascinating.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/82 "2023-06-30T01:30:58Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> It’s Toronto not New York!

As a Torontonian, I have to say there is not NEARLY enough road construction to be real.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/83 "2023-06-30T01:53:36Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> And Anson Mount has been almost completely missing for the first two of three shows.

That’s the part that really stands out to me. He was a huge part in getting this show going in the first place, and making Season 1 work so well. Now, he’s barely been in half an episode or so.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/84 "2023-06-30T01:57:52Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> The day _after_ or _before_ some of those old stories might be…fascinating.

Star Trek: Down Time.

Every episode is just a few of the crew having drinks, and talking about what happened. “So Kirk opens the hatch to the grain storage, and _thousands_ of tribbles just fall right on his head!”

“No way!”

“Yes way! I swear, it’s like there was someone in there just _throwing_ tribbles at him!”

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/85 "2023-06-30T02:51:11Z")

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“traveling through time and killing a guy worse than Hitler.”

Enjoyed it - laughed alot at Peila “Archeology Department” - worth the entire episode.

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**Author:** ![Nicest\_of\_the\_Damned](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nicest\_of\_the\_Damned](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nicest_of_the_Damned)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/86 "2023-06-30T04:22:54Z")

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Did she just leave the gun on the kid’s nightstand?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/87 "2023-06-30T05:05:52Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Episode 3 was one of the best ST time travel episodes ever. Right up there with “The City on the Edge of Forever”.

Definitely the first stand-out episode of this season.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/88 "2023-06-30T05:07:27Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> Episode 2 felt overly long, and the legal gotcha was unsurprising. I’m also a bit annoyed with the constant “Starfleet brass as villains” theme–for such a supposedly progressive and benevolent organization in the galaxy, they seem to be exclusively run by mustache-twirling bureaucrats constantly trying to destroy their coworkers and organization from within.

Lower Decks (the series, not the episode) has one possible explanation.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/89 "2023-06-30T09:50:22Z")

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That’s what I kept thinking!

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/90 "2023-06-30T12:50:23Z")

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and so it begins…

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/91 "2023-06-30T15:18:57Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Lower Decks

So while I loved this episode, I am also aware that there is more time travel to come, what with Lower Decks crossover to be and all. That worries me. Star Trek has done one small time travel bits fine … but temporal wars and time agents? That’s where Enterprise went off the rails for me.

Fingers crossed this show pulls it off better.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/92 "2023-07-01T01:10:32Z")

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I thought of that, but I assume security snatched it up immediately after.

1. Alarms were going off everywhere.

2. A guard had been shot, you even hear someone yell something like, “We have a man down!”

3. Unauthorized access to secure areas, **including** Khan’s room, where the door was standing wide open.

I figure that the guards were seconds away from encountering La’an just before she jumped back to her own time. They came in, Khan told some story about some weird lady that vanished, they confiscated the gun and maybe changed some security protocols afterward.

My personal favorite line, which I caught as soon as he said it, was when Kirk mispronounced La’an’s surname as [Noonien- **Soong**](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Noonian_Soong). Because that always confused the fuck out of me, too. Come on, TNG writers!!! (I know that _Enterprise_ tried to retcon an explanation but meh.)

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/93 "2023-07-01T01:45:26Z")

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The take on Kirk in episode 3 felt like Kirk and not the cliche of Kirk (most of which comes from the movies and not the series).

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I really liked this version of Kirk more than the last portrayal. To the point where I would be cool if he was a regular.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/95 "2023-07-01T06:56:23Z")

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I did notice that they fixed the continuity problem with the original Khan insurrection happening in 1993. It was supposed to happen then, but something got screwed up and it wound up getting delayed a few decades.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/96 "2023-07-05T16:13:09Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> So yes, I need to subscribe to Paramount+ again.

**Paramount+ only $5.99 for 2 months through Prime until Jul 12th**.

I signed up today and set a reminder for August 15th to cancel my Paramount+ subscription then.

So tomorrow I will start catching up on Strange New Worlds finally.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/97 "2023-07-05T17:46:10Z")

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Cool. You’ll love the one with the backstory of how Q made the tribbles. (Although it was an odd choice to recast Justin Bieber as Q.)

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> (Although it was an odd choice to recast Justin Bieber as Q.)

🎶_”Baby, baby, baby Q…”_

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Episode 4 was another strong one, I think.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/100 "2023-07-07T00:10:35Z")

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Haven’t finished ep4 yet, and I know there’s a limited number of syllables in English, but aren’t the Kaylon the robot race from The Orville?

ETA oh Kaylar…so different.

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