# Strange New Worlds season 2 to start June 15, 2023

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [June 3, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959 "2023-06-03T15:25:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/101 "2023-07-07T02:04:13Z")

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I am ecstatic they are doing adventure of the week episodes and this had a lot of Easter Eggs from The Cage/The Menagerie (the Rigel mission was just before the mission to Talos and shows up in the episode) but it felt like a 40 minute episode stretched to an hour and was a little repetitive at times.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/102 "2023-07-07T05:15:11Z")

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No doubt, Zac will be court martialed for violating the Prime Directive and get off scot free.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/103 "2023-07-08T00:56:20Z")

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I did like the episode. Just the right amount of action for a Trek show.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/104 "2023-07-09T13:22:50Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Are Lanthanites a new thing in _Star Trek_?

I immediately suspected that the Lanthanites include Mr. Flint from the original series. “Requiem for Methuselah” s3e19. Flint was from Earth and had lived a long time. His “lives” included Brahms & da Vinci. But as far as I know, “Lanthanites” was introduced in this episode.

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I enjoyed all 4 episodes, though I don’t understand why the Captain of a Starship was prosecuting the court martial of Una in episode 2.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/105 "2023-07-10T00:57:48Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I enjoyed all 4 episodes, though I don’t understand why the Captain of a Starship was prosecuting the court martial of Una in episode 2.

One of the principles of Star Fleet is cross-training. Officers spend time doing different disciplines. So an engineer might have spent significant time learning medical skills, and piloting, and combat training, etc. (That was a theme in one episode of _Lower Decks_, where Rutherford kept changing jobs and was cheered for it each time.)

So my guess is that Captain Batel has experience and training as a prosecutor in her past, making her qualified to serve in that role when needed. No Star Fleet captain is **just** a captain; they’re an expert in other things aside from commanding a starship. Probably a lot of things.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/106 "2023-07-10T16:19:49Z")

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The procedure comes right out of the TOS episode Court Martial so they are just going with precedent already established.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/107 "2023-07-10T22:06:17Z")

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One thing I like about the show is that Pike is a good captain, but he isn’t a _great_ captain. He’s not a genius, or a heroic leader, or the Best Damn Captain in Starfleet - in other words, he’s not Kirk or Picard. He’s just a good officer doing his best, the first among equals of a talented crew.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/108 "2023-07-13T08:31:38Z")

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Episode 2x05 was kind of sitcommy, could practically have been a _Lower Decks_ episode. It was great.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/109 "2023-07-13T11:09:51Z")

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Didn’t they play it backwards, as it were? It is established, even in the very episode, that Vulcans have a lifetime of experience struggling with violent and powerful emotions and impulses. So, logically (heh), the result of a Human Spock would be to render him utterly robotic, deep in the embrace of pure logic, because human feelings would barely register, ultimately to realize that having emotions is actually a good thing or some such sop.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/110 "2023-07-13T13:37:49Z")

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i will see it later tonight. are y’all saying hijinks are the only logical course?

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/111 "2023-07-14T00:20:55Z")

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Ah, char aaaah des and hijinks Fun.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/112 "2023-07-14T03:53:17Z")

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I was amused very much by this episode, but they still had enough drama, character development, and space exploration/mystery to make it not just a wacky sitcom.

I quite liked this one.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/113 "2023-07-14T04:02:04Z")

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“What the ffff…space, the final frontier…”

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/114 "2023-07-14T08:30:22Z")

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It seems as though the final stage of the evolution of consciousness is customer service.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/115 "2023-07-14T13:06:26Z")

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“I’d like to escalate this call to Magenta, please.”

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/116 "2023-07-14T19:43:02Z")

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t’pring is truely her father’s daughter. she is up for anything and is trying to make this whole situation work. spock let her down on this one.

are they on a break? has spock not seen the tv classic friends?

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/117 "2023-07-14T19:56:46Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> t’pring is truely her father’s daughter. she is up for anything and is trying to make this whole situation work.

Her dad was awesome. That’s the kind of Vulcan that would be fun to hang out with. He seems excited for new things.

Unfortunately, he’s clearly very subservient to his domineering wife, and he’d probably have to sneak out to go have fun, and would be unlikely to do it more than once after being berated for it afterward.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/118 "2023-07-14T20:20:11Z")

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he was the shining light in this episode. i bet he introduces charades to his vulcan buddies.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/119 "2023-07-14T20:25:20Z")

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Has anybody recently rewatched any of the Spock/Chapel interactions in TOS to see how well they jibe with this newly discovered history between them?

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/120 "2023-07-14T20:32:14Z")

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it would not match up as the original series was a 1960 version of women. the nurse chapel in this series is not in anyway a 1960 woman.

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