# Strange New Worlds season 2 to start June 15, 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [June 3, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959 "2023-06-03T15:25:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/121 "2023-07-14T20:56:42Z")
It’s better to look at the show as a soft reboot than a direct prequel. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/122 "2023-07-14T21:29:37Z")
I found this. I think a self-imposed Vulcan mental block in a future episode of SNW could reconcile the two shows. [Christine Chapel confesses her love for Spock (Star Trek TOS) - YouTube](https://youtu.be/hH02doRdCrc) ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/123 "2023-07-15T01:10:37Z")
“A Vulcan should have a more resilient bladder.” 😆 ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/124 "2023-07-15T15:08:26Z")
“Preboot”? ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/125 "2023-07-17T03:06:11Z")
One of the writers of this episode came from Lower Decks (she wrote the great LD episode that explored the Klingon and Vulcan ships) which explains the lighter tone. I like comedic Trek episodes and I liked this one but it has a problem that is pervasive in the Paramount Plus era Trek series: the characters almost never seem like adults. They act like they are teen agers on some kind of training cruise out in space. It’s on Discovery and this show too. They almost never act like professionals doing a job. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/126 "2023-07-17T04:46:49Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > They almost never act like professionals doing a job. That’s what people from a hundred years ago would probably say about today’s workforce. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/127 "2023-07-17T05:02:45Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > They almost never act like professionals doing a job. The nicer worlds of the Federation are [mostly post-scarcity](https://slate.com/business/2013/11/star-trek-economy-federation-is-only-mostly-post-scarcity.html). Nobody has to work if they don’t want to. So it could be argued that anyone who does choose to have a job is pretty much larping. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/128 "2023-07-17T12:16:36Z")
I guess I left out specifically saying , “As compared to every other Trek series prior” which are also set in the future and in post scarcity societies. I am sure I am being just an old man yelling at clouds but there is a difference that I think makes these shows weaker than they need to be. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/129 "2023-07-17T14:59:23Z")
On the original series and to a lesser extent TNG, large numbers of the cast, crew and writers had military experience. And a lot more of the audience had military experience. It came through naturally. Not so much anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/130 "2023-07-17T15:00:58Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > It seems as though the final stage of the evolution of consciousness is customer service. Yeah, I was half expecting a big reveal that they were talking to some kind of chatbot the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/131 "2023-07-18T21:43:04Z")
T’Pril may be a racist bitch, but she’s kinda write about Spock and T’Pring’s marriage being a mésalliance. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/132 "2023-07-18T23:16:25Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > On the original series and to a lesser extent TNG, large numbers of the cast, crew and writers had military experience. Roddenberry himself, notably. He was a pilot in the Army Air Corps. He even once crashed a B-17 by overshooting a runway on landing, and the crash killed a couple of crewmen, but he was ultimately cleared of responsibility. He had seen and done some stuff, and I’m sure that informed Star Trek quite a bit. He was also in a second plane crash (as a passenger that time), and then after his military career, he was in a third plane crash while he was a Pan Am pilot. In that case, he dragged injured people out of the burning plane and saved lives despite having two broken ribs. After that third crash, he quit his career as a pilot and pursued a career as a TV writer. At the same time, he joined the LAPD (he majored in Police Science in college) and eventually became the speechwriter for the police chief, and then the liaison between the LAPD and the show _Dragnet_, becoming a technical advisor for episodes. He also wrote for some episodes of the show, and did more technical advising and writing before deciding that being a policeman and a writer was too much, and started writing full time. When you consider all of that, it’s no surprise that the original Star Trek series had the stiff tone that it had, especially comparing it to later Trek series. Just consider the experience of the person who conceived of it. This was a guy who spent life in the military during WWII, then as a commercial pilot in the late 40s, then as a cop. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/133 "2023-07-19T00:43:45Z")
Yep. And producers Fred Freiberger, Bob Justman, and Gene L. Coon, and actors DeForest Kelley, James Doohan, Leonard Nimoy and Mark Lenard, among others. Also, the audience had a lot more people who had served and expected a military ship to have military protocols. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/134 "2023-07-19T01:08:14Z")
Wrong thread ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/135 "2023-07-20T14:09:20Z")
For fans of Hemmer, like me, the latest episode was a disappointment given the rumors, However, aside from that let-down I really liked it. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/136 "2023-07-20T14:49:26Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > For fans of Hemmer, like me, the latest episode was a disappointment given the rumors Yeah, many speculations were crushed that day. ---
**Author:** ![de\_Worde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@de\_Worde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/de_Worde)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/137 "2023-07-20T19:18:09Z")
Pelia had crumbs on her uniform. Well, of course. It was “real cookie day.” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/138 "2023-07-20T19:19:02Z")
Explains why there was only 1 left. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/139 "2023-07-20T19:25:58Z")
> [@de\_Worde](#): > > Well, of course. It was “real cookie day.” Oh wow, I did _not_ make that connection while I watched that episode, but that really makes sense. I’m embarrassed that it didn’t occur to me. I love those little attentions to detail and callbacks in an episode! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strange-new-worlds-season-2-to-start-june-15-2023/984959/140 "2023-07-20T20:19:47Z")
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