# Stranger Things 3. No spoilers until post 54

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**Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575 "2019-07-05T16:01:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/101 "2019-07-19T12:30:41Z")

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618-625-8313

Call and you’ll get Murray’s voicemail. ([Link for those who can’t call](https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a28398398/stranger-things-murray-phone-number/).)

I’m sure it contains an easter egg, but I’ll go ahead and bet that Murray’s mom will show up in Season 4.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/102 "2019-07-19T13:32:24Z")

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It sadly sounds like season 4 will be the last season. Though maybe Netflix with convince the Duffers to go to 5 or some inspiration will occur.

I love this show, I love the nostalgia and I love the style which has gotten lost in the intervening decades.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/103 "2019-07-19T13:35:35Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> The nostalgia wasn’t really there for me this time. During Season 1 and 2, I kept seeing things and saying _Hey–we had one just like that!_, but there was little of that for Season 3. But that’s fine–I’m there for the characters and the story now.

For me the nostalgia was more about all the movie nods they threw in. That russian tough guy was a perfect Terminator, the green liquid that looked like Alien blood melting through metal, etc.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/104 "2019-07-19T18:22:47Z")

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[Moderating]

Merged threads.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/105 "2019-07-22T12:29:00Z")

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Just finished binge watching. I’m actually feeling nostalgic for the 80’s, when Cold War conspiracies dominated US paranoia. Conspiracies were much cooler back then, and not stupid like they are now. Russians were working on sinister underground plots instead of presidential candidates running child sex slave pens in pizza restaurants.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/106 "2019-07-22T16:05:08Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> I think the “American” comment is a red herring re: Hopper. It’s Brenner in the Russian prison. Hopper, however is alive, but in the Upside Down. He squeezed through the opening just before the explosion.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking too. They didn’t show Brenner after the explosion IIRC. I think Hopper jumped through the opening and next season will open with him struggling in the Upside Down and maybe somehow communicating or being seen by Eleven.  
Also regarding Joyce moving, I know Joyce lost both Hopper and the other guy, but her son is in a serious relationship with a girl from Hawkins and Eleven is in love with Mike from Hawkins, also Will’s best friends are in Hawkins, wouldn’t it be best for all their sake to stay there? I’m guessing she’ll have a change of heart in S4.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/107 "2019-07-22T17:41:39Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> Also regarding Joyce moving, I know Joyce lost both Hopper and the other guy, but her son is in a serious relationship with a girl from Hawkins and Eleven is in love with Mike from Hawkins, also Will’s best friends are in Hawkins, wouldn’t it be best for all their sake to stay there? I’m guessing she’ll have a change of heart in S4.

Actually it is kind of refreshing to see people moving away from a Hellmouth like location. She lost 2 men already, sooner or later she’ll lose either a child or herself has got to be what she’s thinking. I mean she has come so close to losing Will, it majes sense to get out.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/108 "2019-07-22T18:39:58Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Actually it is kind of refreshing to see people moving away from a Hellmouth like location. She lost 2 men already, sooner or later she’ll lose either a child or herself has got to be what she’s thinking. I mean she has come so close to losing Will, it majes sense to get out.

Its kinda surprising that anyone is left in that town -

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/109 "2019-07-22T19:08:23Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Its kinda surprising that anyone is left in that town -

And they don’t seem to explain in the show what all these townspeople think of this crazy stuff happening.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/110 "2019-07-22T21:08:56Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> And they don’t seem to explain in the show what all these townspeople think of this crazy stuff happening.

I mean, what do the regular townspeople notice that’s so crazy? Some missing people and a fire at a mall?

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/111 "2019-07-22T23:20:13Z")

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That’s a lot of missing people for such a small town, even if mostly farmers.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/112 "2019-07-23T03:56:09Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> That’s a lot of missing people for such a small town, even if mostly farmers.

Is it a small town? I would guess 20k plus based on the mall and the fair if nothing else.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/113 "2019-07-23T09:12:19Z")

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One single high school student going missing and not getting found (Barb) should suffice for town-wide awareness and concern.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/114 "2019-07-23T14:10:41Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> One single high school student going missing and not getting found (Barb) should suffice for town-wide awareness and concern.

Her disappearance was pretty effectively covered up by the lab in Season 1, who made it appear that she’d run away. In Season 2, a diluted version of her death was revealed to the public, as was the lab’s cover-up, so the public was lulled into believing that there had been a problem, yes, but the danger was over.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/115 "2019-07-23T14:13:39Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Is it a small town? I would guess 20k plus based on the mall and the fair if nothing else.

Not sure where this is from, but it states 30,000.

[https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/starcourt\_pr.jpg](https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/starcourt_pr.jpg)

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/116 "2019-07-23T14:17:41Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> One single high school student going missing and not getting found (Barb) should suffice for town-wide awareness and concern.

Now, now, look at our news-cycles. She wasn’t a pretty blonde girl. She’ll be forgotten quickly. :smack:

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/117 "2019-07-23T16:13:21Z")

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I don’t mean wider media coverage; I’m thinking mainly of her fellow high school students. I went to high school in the 80s (class of 89), and if anyone in my high school disappeared and was never found, all of the rest of us students would absolutely have had that on our minds. And that concern/worry would have permeated the entire town through us regardless of how popular or not that student was.

For example, one girl in my school died of Leukemia. I never met her, or even saw her to my knowledge, but every single student in my school including me was acutely aware of her.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/118 "2019-07-23T16:46:39Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I don’t mean wider media coverage; I’m thinking mainly of her fellow high school students. I went to high school in the 80s (class of 89), and if anyone in my high school disappeared and was never found, all of the rest of us students would absolutely have had that on our minds. And that concern/worry would have permeated the entire town through us regardless of how popular or not that student was.
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> For example, one girl in my school died of Leukemia. I never met her, or even saw her to my knowledge, but every single student in my school including me was acutely aware of her.

The story wasn’t that she disappeared though, it was that she ran away. And she really didn’t have any friends other than Nancy.

And even then, it’s a big jump from “A kid went missing” to “There’s some vast conspiracy involving our town.”

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/119 "2019-07-23T17:07:48Z")

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We finished the season last week. I didn’t mind the lame science or the Russians being under the Starcourt Mall - that was goofy, but goofy in keeping with 80’s movies, which were all kinds of goofy.

What bugged me - especially in the first two episodes, was the terrible dialog every time the show tried to be serious. The scenes between Hooper and Joyce were cringe-worthy.

The 80’s references felt a little too on-the-nose. The silly sailor costume and the scenes in the ice cream parlor were lifted almost shot-for-shot from _Fast Times at Ridgemont High_. The Terminator guy even looked like Arnold.

But I got over it. Once the action ramped up it got better. It was, however, a little weird to watch the kids singing neverending story while people were dying because of the delay.

Overall, by the end I liked it. But it had a lot of flaws.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-3-no-spoilers-until-post-54/836575/120 "2019-07-23T17:09:08Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Overall, by the end I liked it. But it had a lot of flaws.

Pretty much sums up the 80s.

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