# Stranger Things 4 trailer \[spoilers for season 3 & 4\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\ **Created:** [February 14, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939 "2020-02-14T16:30:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/1 "2020-02-14T16:30:37Z")
[Good News!](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/stranger-things-season-4-david-harbour-returns-1279393&ved=2ahUKEwiZsoXHudHnAhUHUt8KHeueDYkQqOcBMAB6BAgGEAQ&usg=AOvVaw2sg0GXIblqKrEmW1u4SDhR) David Harbour is excellent in this series and I, for one, am glad he is not really dead. Teasing us with the loss of a major character is OK, but actually killing such an integral player like Hopper would have been a mistake IMHO. Season 4 should be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/2 "2020-02-14T16:36:19Z")
Wrong forum. Sorry. Mods please move. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/3 "2020-02-16T03:18:48Z")
Done. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/4 "2020-02-17T13:10:57Z")
I’d actually completely forgotten he’d died until you mentioned it here. Even after seeing the teaser the other day. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/5 "2020-02-17T16:14:11Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > David Harbour is excellent in this series and I, for one, am glad he is not really dead. Teasing us with the loss of a major character is OK, but actually killing such an integral player like Hopper would have been a mistake IMHO. It was pretty clear he wasn’t dead, when the Russians mentioned they had an American prisoner at the end of season 3. Who else would it be? (Of course, there’s also the rule that a major character is never really dead unless you see the body - and sometimes even if you do.:)) Also all the tear-jerking when everyone talked about his loss. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/6 "2020-02-17T16:15:58Z")
I edited the title to indicate that there are spoilers for those who haven’t seen season 3. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/7 "2020-02-17T16:50:52Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > It was pretty clear he wasn’t dead, when the Russians mentioned they had an American prisoner at the end of season 3. Who else would it be? (Of course, there’s also the rule that a major character is never really dead unless you see the body - and sometimes even if you do.:)) Also all the tear-jerking when everyone talked about his loss. There was a good bit of fan speculation at the time that it was Eleven’s father (I personally think that would have been a better idea). ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/8 "2020-02-17T18:13:32Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > It was pretty clear he wasn’t dead, when the Russians mentioned they had an American prisoner at the end of season 3. Who else would it be? (Of course, there’s also the rule that a major character is never really dead unless you see the body - and sometimes even if you do.:)) Also all the tear-jerking when everyone talked about his loss. more specifically - they mentioned “The American” - which is how they reffered to him several times in season three - it was far too specific in context and yet just deniable enough had he not been able to return. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/9 "2020-02-17T18:30:45Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > There was a good bit of fan speculation at the time that it was Eleven’s father (I personally think that would have been a better idea). Yeah, I thought The American being Hopper was a misdirect, and it’d turn out to be Papa. That would explain how the Russians were able to replicate the gate, and it would let somebody say upon rescuing Hopper from the Upside Down that they _left the door open three inches_. Both theories are kaput now, I guess. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/10 "2020-02-17T18:49:50Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > There was a good bit of fan speculation at the time that it was Eleven’s father (I personally think that would have been a better idea). Even before the mention of “The American” post-credits, I was pretty convinced Hopper was coming back since they spent the last seven minutes of the show on a monologue of him in flashback talking about his feelings for Eleven, and of Eleven and Joyce dealing with their feelings toward him. All of that would have been too maudlin if he were really gone for good. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/11 "2020-02-18T02:08:46Z")
Hopper is a good counterweight to the kids. His solid character I think is essential in grounding the show amidst the youths, the supernatural, the villains and Joyce. I don’t think _Stranger Things_ could work without him. ---
**Author:** ![DerNils](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerNils](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerNils)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/12 "2020-02-18T08:42:05Z")
I agree, though it does get annoying that there really are no stakes to main characters. I am rather interested if they finally make a step out of their small town Setting. But realistically speaking the will probably get him back via Upside Down shortcut and be back in town, as that is where everything happens all the time (and fans hated the trip to NY with a vengeance) ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/13 "2020-02-18T14:25:55Z")
The trip to New York deserves to be hated with a vengeance. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/14 "2020-02-18T15:34:06Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > The trip to New York deserves to be hated with a vengeance. Especially since it was Chicago? (or did I miss it?) ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/15 "2020-02-18T15:41:47Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Especially since it was Chicago? > > (or did I miss it?) Yes, it was Chicago. But it could have been any generic city with dull characters and Umbrella Acadamy multi-power heroes and villains. There are more than enough comic book movies and tv shows. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/16 "2020-02-18T16:36:33Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > There was a good bit of fan speculation at the time that it was Eleven’s father (I personally think that would have been a better idea). > [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > Yeah, I thought The American being Hopper was a misdirect, and it’d turn out to be Papa. You mean Dr. Brenner (who hasn’t been established as being Eleven’s actual father)? I hadn’t heard such speculation, but it wouldn’t make sense for the Russians to be keeping such a valuable prisoner in a cell and considering using him as demogorgon chow. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/17 "2020-02-18T16:41:51Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You mean Dr. Brenner (who hasn’t been established as being Eleven’s actual father)? Yes, Matthew Modine, the person Eleven refers to as _Papa_. > [@](#): > > I hadn’t heard such speculation, but it wouldn’t make sense for the Russians to be keeping such a valuable prisoner in a cell and considering using him as demogorgon chow. 1980s Russians were, in the American consciousness, comic-book evil people. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/18 "2020-02-18T18:42:17Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You mean Dr. Brenner (who hasn’t been established as being Eleven’s actual father)? I hadn’t heard such speculation, but it wouldn’t make sense for the Russians to be keeping such a valuable prisoner in a cell and considering using him as demogorgon chow. The speculation I remember was that it was Eleven’s biological father, whoever that was, not “Papa”. But, since it now appears it was Hooper all along, it’s moot. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/19 "2020-02-18T18:47:11Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > The speculation I remember was that it was Eleven’s biological father, whoever that was, not “Papa”. But, since it now appears it was Hooper all along, it’s moot. Haven’t seen that speculation before this thread. It would be an interesting turn of events, but that would make the backstory even more _Firestarter_ than it already is. ---
**Author:** ![Brandon\_Dennis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5e925/32.png) [@Brandon\_Dennis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brandon_Dennis)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/20 "2020-02-20T20:47:39Z")
YES! Can’t wait for this!! Which reminds me: “Mornings are for contemplation and coffee”. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939.md?page=2)