# Stranger Things 4 trailer \[spoilers for season 3 & 4\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\ **Created:** [February 14, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939 "2020-02-14T16:30:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/141 "2022-06-17T03:41:46Z")
I liked Season 3 far better than 2, FWIW. This current one is somewhere between 2 and 3 quality-wise for me. I like that it’s finally starting to answer some questions about the Upside Down rather than just spitting out another big monster, but there are too many characters I don’t give a crap about. (Seriously, I would’ve been happy if Nancy and Jonathan had remained side characters; they get less interesting every season.) ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/142 "2022-06-17T11:48:12Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > I liked Season 3 far better than 2, FWIW. I also liked Season 3 better than Season 2 (although I liked them both). Season 2 was just kind of a rehash of Season 1; at least Season 3 was doing something different. My only real complaint about Season 4 is that the Russia subplot is okay but not great. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/143 "2022-06-18T19:35:12Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > Honestly, if the show had any balls, it’d be _Mike_ who sacrifices himself to save the day. That would eliminate both the narrative dead end of Mike and El’s relationship as well as the potential El-Mike-Will love triangle. Besides, they already “killed” El in season one and we have one more season to go. I think you can have Stranger Things without Mike, but you can’t have it without Eleven. I don’t think they have that kinda balls. A core character has never really been killed, and they keep ADDING characters. We now have Mike, Will, Lucas, Dustin, Max, Robin, Steve, Nancy, and Jonathan, and that’s just core kids, plus Hopper and Joyce. Two of those people have been killed… and resurrected. If they want to kill someone now they introduce someone like Sean Astin or Dacre Montgomery whose job it is to die. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/144 "2022-06-20T14:52:39Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > If they want to kill someone now they introduce someone like Sean Astin or Dacre Montgomery whose job it is to die. So, someone like Eddie? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/145 "2022-06-20T17:57:33Z")
Eddie seems like a friendly guy who’s in high school so he might become part of the gang for S5. I think Paul Reiser might die ths season though. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/146 "2022-06-20T20:23:17Z")
I agree that of everything in this ridiculous(ly well-produced) universe, the implausible job opportunity for No.1 threat to be employed as lowly orderly seems to me the worst. The answer ‘hubris’ doesn’t really fit with my reading of ‘Papa’. He seems more pragmatic than that. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/147 "2022-06-20T20:54:03Z")
I’d assume the good doctor wanted to keep that threat close and under control. Maybe he figured he could “fix” him later. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/148 "2022-06-21T15:09:09Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > So, someone like Eddie? I would be disappointed if Eddie dies, considering the whole kicking off the plot for this season was “we have to save Eddie.” Although next season is the last, right? I wouldn’t be surprised if a major character gets killed off at the end of S5. Not the core 4, but someone like Johnathan or Steve. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/149 "2022-06-21T16:06:06Z")
I will be very disappointed if Eddie does, too, but I think he’s a goner. He’s in that happy middle ground: a fan favorite so there’s real emotion if he dies, but not central enough to mess with the core. I’d be surprised if a major character dies this season, I think they’ll save it for the final season. As mentioned above, Mike would be the best option to resolve the pending Mike-Will-El triangle. Nancy is also a possibility for the same reason. I’d be surprised if Jonathan or Steve died. Steve is just too awesome, and he ties everyone together. While Jonathan is a possibility plot-wise, I don’t think they’d do that to Joyce. She always seems to be hit with the big losses. And unfortunately, El dying at the end is the only realistic resolution to her arc. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/150 "2022-06-21T17:22:36Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > And unfortunately, El dying at the end is the only realistic resolution to her arc. At this point, yeah, they’ve demonstrated pretty clearly she can’t function on her own in “normal” society. It doesn’t seem likely she and Mike are going to settle down as normal boyfriend and girlfriend after all this. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/151 "2022-06-21T18:07:45Z")
There is a trailer out now for the remaining “Volume 2” episodes of Season 4 > **[“Stranger Things 4: Volume 2” Full Trailer Preps for an Epic, High-Stakes...](https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3720007/stranger-things-4-volume-2-full-trailer-preps-for-an-epic-high-stakes-battle-with-vecna/)** > > “Stranger Things 4” will be returning to Netflix on July 1 with the final two episodes of the season, including a season finale that will run a massive 2-PLUS HOURS LONG. While you wait, you can watch the full official... ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/152 "2022-06-21T18:52:49Z")
Loved that shot of Eddie on top of the ruins. I hope he’s really good on that guitar. Kick his ass, Lucas! ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/153 "2022-06-21T19:11:31Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I’d be surprised if Jonathan or Steve died. Steve is just too awesome, and he ties everyone together. While Jonathan is a possibility plot-wise, I don’t think they’d do that to Joyce. She always seems to be hit with the big losses. Heck, Joyce may be the one who dies. Adds into Hopper’s belief that everyone around him is cursed. Though if they kill off Steve, I’m gonna riot. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/154 "2022-06-21T20:45:20Z")
If they did kill someone off, it’d have to be for good; I don’t think they could get away with another Hopper-esque fakeout death. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/155 "2022-06-21T22:22:48Z")
That’s why I’m saying it would be a big death near the end of next season, which is supposed to be the last. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/156 "2022-06-22T00:06:34Z")
I really hope they are sticking with the plan to end this after next season. And I am hoping that at the very end, just as it looks like our heroes are about to save the day one more time, the Mindflayer wins and eats everything. The whole world, all of it. Otherwise how do you end S5? “Yeah, I know the other 4 times we won that evil returned, but this time we really did it!” ---
**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/157 "2022-06-22T00:25:38Z")
I feel that Eddie’s story arc requires him to die. 1) He is always saying how he always runs away from danger. So that means that he will have to make a big sacrifice to redeem his cowardly ways. 2) His death would mean that the townspeople would think a serial killer is dead and would not have to be told about the Upside Down and the real purpose of Hawkins lab, etc. Based on the latest trailer from June 21, I feel that the person Eddie and Dustin are trying to save from Vecna is Eleven. She is seen in Vecna’s house, her bare feet are rising up from the ground in the trailer. She is having visions from a bridge of the skating rink scene with a speaker system next to her. Eddie dies, Eleven goes on to help save the day. I think. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/158 "2022-06-24T07:04:31Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > That said, one GAPING hole (so far, possible it can be resolved) is why 1 would become an orderly. His identity was clearly not secret to whoever hired him… so if you’re an evil doctor running an evil secret lab to develop superhumans, and your first experiment was powerful but too evil to be let roam free, why on earth would you put a tiny little chip in him that you assume will keep him restrained forever, then let him freely wander around and communicate with other superhumans? Truly inexplicable… at least so far. Yeah, I am really having trouble sorting how Victor Creel’s odd little boy = One = Vecna. How did One end up with 001 tattooed on his wrist anyway? I thought kids like 11 were the result of Brenner stealing babies, maybe after their mothers took LSD (a la Firestarter perhaps) and so that’s how they ended up with their psychokinetic powers. But with One/Vecna, it seems like he was just some freak of nature and somehow Brenner found him … and decided, “hey, I think I’ll create an army of these kids, better tattoo 001 on this first kid and figure out how to make more”? Makes no sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/159 "2022-06-24T15:47:51Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > But with One/Vecna, it seems like he was just some freak of nature and somehow Brenner found him … and decided, “hey, I think I’ll create an army of these kids, better tattoo 001 on this first kid and figure out how to make more”? Or maybe “Hey, psychic powers are actually real? Can we study them? Can we create people with psychic powers to fight the Russians?” > **[Stargate Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project)** > > Reportedly haunted locations: > The Stargate Project was a secret U.S. Army unit established in 1978 at Fort Meade, Maryland, by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and SRI International (a California contractor) to investigate the potential for psychic phenomena in military and domestic intelligence applications. The project, and its precursors and sister projects, originally went by various code names – 'Gondola Wish', 'Stargate', 'Grill Flame', 'Center Lane', 'Project CF', 'Sun Streak', 'Sc... ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939/160 "2022-06-24T15:52:00Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > But with One/Vecna, it seems like he was just some freak of nature and somehow Brenner found him … and decided, “hey, I think I’ll create an army of these kids, better tattoo 001 on this first kid and figure out how to make more”? I mean, that’s pretty much what One said. I figure he tatooed him at around the same time Two was born. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stranger-things-4-trailer-spoilers-for-season-3-4/847939.md?page=9)