# Straus-Kahn case falling apart. Duke lacrosse, etc.? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 1, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476 "2011-07-01T03:54:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476/161 "2011-07-06T13:42:18Z")
> [@forever](#): > > And now an ugly French authorling tries to accuse Strauss-Kahn in raping attempt The rest of what you said was ridiculous, but suggesting he couldn’t have assaulted this woman because she’s ugly really invalidates your opinion. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476/162 "2011-07-06T13:48:59Z")
> [@forever](#): > > . And now an ugly French authorling tries to accuse Strauss-Kahn in raping attempt which took place (if it is true) nine years ago… Odd, she was waiting for nine years and now she made her decision… just in time when Strauss-Kahn is going to stand for presidential elections in 2012… . 1° [She isn’t ugly at all](http://www.dna.fr/fr/images/587148bc-ca9a-4e5f-96e9-84b51cfe4282/DNA_02/Tristane-Banon-va-deposer-plainte-contre-DSK-pour-tentative-de-viol.jpg) 2° She had already recounted the assault some years ago on TV (without mentionning DSK by name, though), so she didn’t just wake one month ago after rape charges were filled against DSK in New-York. Also, I strongly doubt DSK is going to run for the 2012 elections, now. Even though the Socialist party is willing to change the date for the registration for the primaries, his chances of winning them would be low . Let alone his chances to win the presidential election itself (and another socialist heavy weight who had agreed not to run against him before the scandal is now in the race. She’s my prefered candidate, by the way, so it’s all for the best from my point of view). ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476/163 "2011-07-06T13:49:53Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The rest of what you said was ridiculous, but suggesting he couldn’t have assaulted this woman because she’s ugly really invalidates your opinion. Apart from the conspiracy rants (and it is quite hilarious to think of either Strauss-Khan or Barroso as anti-establishment types), Tristane Banon is definitely not ugly. She’s rather pretty (not that attractiveness is the major factor in cases of rape, from what I gathered).. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476/164 "2011-07-06T14:00:58Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > (not that attractiveness is the major factor in cases of rape, from what I gathered).. But attractiveness seems to be a major factor as far as DSK is concerned, from what I gathered. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476/165 "2011-07-06T14:24:10Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Regardless, assuming there is actually evident of sexual intercourse, I have to wonder how that happens in a purely spontaneous and innocuous manner. Why would a person with so much to lose, proposition a maid out of the blue with the expectation that that would work? As the old joke says: “You just walk up to women and say, ‘Hi, let’s fuck’?! You must get slapped a lot!” “Yeah… but I also get laid a lot.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476/166 "2011-07-06T22:49:43Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > But attractiveness seems to be a major factor as far as DSK is concerned, from what I gathered. 😉 Not his own, surely. 😉 (You could say the same thing about Clinton, too, except for the rape part, although that’s been said, too). [Some commentary](http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2011/07/06/as_rape_charges_crumble_soul_searching_in_france_goes_on/) from as France-sympathetic media source as you’re likely to see here: > [@](#): > > Over the last month, France has been debating the role of sexism, harassment, and even machismo in French political culture. Stories of outlandish and often reckless sexual behavior have long followed Strauss-Kahn, but they were rarely reported by the French media or much noted by the French elite. Now, French reporters are questioning whether they were too enamored with power to take seriously allegations against a man who famously replied to questions about his involvement in an orgy by declaring, “You’re just jealous.’’ > > As disturbing as the rape charges were, though, boorish and dismissive comments made by many of Strauss-Kahn’s supporters galvanized French feminists to protest a culture that had too many “misogynist reflexes,’’ in the words of one feminist leader. > , > It’s well known that France has more permissive sexual mores than the United States. But the movement Strauss-Kahn so unwittingly initiated is not likely to view his, or any other politicians’, sexist or abusive behavior as forgiveable. This is a different kind of sexual awakening, but one that has changed France forever. The repercussions continue - and they’re not all bad. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476/167 "2011-07-06T23:04:21Z")
Italy is supposedly going through something similar in the wake of all the allegations against Berlusconi, which range from orgies to giving government posts to good-looking women who worked for his TV stations and (worst of all) sex with an underage prostitute. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476/168 "2011-07-07T17:06:57Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [Some commentary](http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2011/07/06/as_rape_charges_crumble_soul_searching_in_france_goes_on/) from as France-sympathetic media source as you’re likely to see here:The repercussions continue - and they’re not all bad. I’ve read that in The Guardian as well, and it’s total bullshit. Some feminist movements have tried to use the DSK case to boost their visibility, to no avail. the only blowback from the DSK case is the George Tron case being opened. The rest (France’s supposed macho culture and its horrors being Nuremberged) is foreign correspondents showing they need a reassignment considering how they are out of touch with the country they’re supposed to know as well as any local, and report about. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476/169 "2011-08-23T11:26:35Z")
So, is the criminal case over (moving to the civil one? So, do they go to court or find a settlement?)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straus-kahn-case-falling-apart-duke-lacrosse-etc/587476.md?page=8)