# Straw Dogs to be remade

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 27, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259 "2009-10-27T02:57:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/21 "2009-10-27T20:19:00Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> Kate Bosworth has an utterly baby-like, uninteresting face, and her “beauty” is entirely the beauty of slick, airbrushed, artificially-lit Hollywood production. The women back in the 70s looked a thousand times hotter; they looked _real._

Susan George has frog lips. Real, I suppose, but beautiful? To a frog, maybe.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/22 "2009-10-27T20:38:48Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> Of course a lot of great movies are based on books. But that doesn’t change the fact that they’re great movies. _Barry Lyndon_ was based on a story by Thackeray; _Full Metal Jacket,_ on a novel by Gustav Hasford. Does that mean that those movies are somehow inauthentic or bad? Hey! I know! Let’s remake _Barry Lyndon_ with Ice Cube, Zac Efron and Angelina Jolie - what could go wrong?! We’ll set it in hip, happening Southern California, instead of boring dreary old England and Ireland…we’ll use real lighting and real studio sets instead of that stupid “natural lighting” think that Kubrick used…it’ll be so much better! And don’t complain that it’s a remake, because the original _Barry Lyndon_ was also a remake! Of a story! Get it?!!?!

You’re making my point better than I am. Remakes and adaptations will always happen. Arguing against all remakes and all adaptations is probably one of the stupidest things you can say in regards to movies.

And you popping a blood vessel (while humorous to me) won’t change that.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/23 "2009-10-27T20:47:28Z")

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If it has James Marsden in it, will he be losing his girlfriend to a rival?

See the characters he’s played in X-Men, Superman Returns, and Enchanted.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/24 "2009-10-27T21:56:39Z")

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Another vote for Susan “Dirty Mary” George.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/25 "2009-10-27T22:30:36Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> You’re making my point better than I am. Remakes and adaptations will always happen. Arguing against all remakes and all adaptations is probably one of the stupidest things you can say in regards to movies.

And I’m not arguing against all remakes. Just saying that most of them suck balls. You’ve created a straw man (or a wicker man, for another example of an incredible movie with a laughably, obscenely awful remake.)

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/26 "2009-10-27T22:34:19Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> And I’m not arguing against all remakes. Just saying that most of them suck balls. You’ve created a straw man (or a wicker man, for another example of an incredible movie with a laughably, obscenely awful remake.)

I take exception to _The Wicker Man_ example. I thought it was _hilariously_ awful. By the time he put on the bear suit I was ROFLMAO. I found it far more entertaining than the original, in an unintended way. (except for the hot naked chick in the original).

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/27 "2009-10-27T22:37:27Z")

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The movies of the 70s were wonderfully awash with beautiful long-haired women with bare breasts. Movies today are woefully lacking in this department. It’s almost like there was a rule back in the 70s where any movie, even a comedy, needed to have at least one scene with a sexy woman showing her breasts. Nowadays you’re more likely to see _male cocks_ in a movie.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/28 "2009-10-27T23:05:56Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> The movies of the 70s were wonderfully awash with beautiful long-haired women with bare breasts. Movies today are woefully lacking in this department. It’s almost like there was a rule back in the 70s where any movie, even a comedy, needed to have at least one scene with a sexy woman showing her breasts. Nowadays you’re more likely to see _male cocks_ in a movie.

Really? What are you talking about? There is far more nudity in recent films than ones in the 70s, from what I recall.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/29 "2009-10-27T23:12:01Z")

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Remember _Animal House?_ You hardly ever have a comedy nowadays with that kind of casual nudity. Not nudity to make a point or to be a punch line of a joke - just nudity for the sake of nudity. The only nudity in most comedies now is some guy’s hairy ass or flaccid cock, especially in Apatow-land.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/30 "2009-10-27T23:20:25Z")

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For its time, Strawdogs was extremely violent. It was not a great movie but was pushing the bar back a bit.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/31 "2009-10-28T00:54:21Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Oh well…as long as they don’t remake _The Third Man_, I’ll still have faith in humanity.
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> Stranger

You missed the latest extension to that franchise, _The Fourth Man_?

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/32 "2009-10-28T00:54:44Z")

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> **[Death at a Funeral (2010) ⭐ 5.7 | Comedy, Drama](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321509/)**
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> 1h 32m | R

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/33 "2009-10-28T01:19:53Z")

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> [@shy\_guy](#):
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> I watched _Straw Dogs_ for the first time about a year ago and found it drawn-out and really boring…

Hell, I saw it when it was new and it was drawn-out and really boring. It needs a good remake so it can live up to its hype.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/34 "2009-10-28T01:30:42Z")

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A good remake does not star James Marsden.

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**Author:** ![breezman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@breezman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/breezman)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/35 "2009-10-28T01:33:44Z")

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I thought the original was horrible. I only watched it because the main character was a mathematician. The only scenes I remember liking are the ones involving the blackboard.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/36 "2009-10-28T01:42:49Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> You missed the latest extension to that franchise, _The Fourth Man_?

_ **dropzone** had already beaten **Askance** to death with a manhole cover when he realized he’d been whooshed._

Um, sorry, dude. ☹

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/37 "2009-10-28T02:45:26Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> And I’m not arguing against all remakes. Just saying that most of them suck balls. You’ve created a straw man (or a wicker man, for another example of an incredible movie with a laughably, obscenely awful remake.)

Did you read the OP that you yourself wrote? It’s nothing but a screed against all remakes. Yes it was mostly focused on Straw Dogs, but it started with this line…

“Instead of coming up with original ideas for movies, they crank out remake after dogshit remake.”

And your complaints in subsequent posts just snowballed from there.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/38 "2009-10-28T02:48:42Z")

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Jesus Christ, you sure are hell-bent on debating me, aren’t you? Well, I stand by what I said. I think the remakes they make now are trash. Maybe there are other remakes that were made in the past that are good, but I’m talking only about what has come out in theaters in my own lifetime. And, anyway, why do they have to re-make the same movie with the same title and the same plot, when - if they truly were inspired by it - they could just alter it slightly, give it a different title, and at least spare people the confusion of having two movies with the same title? And have a _little tiny_ bit more claim to some originality?

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/39 "2009-10-28T11:08:14Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Really? What are you talking about? There is far more nudity in recent films than ones in the 70s, from what I recall.

I’d have to disagree with you here. There’s far less casual nudity in cinema today than there was in the 70’s or even 80’s.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straw-dogs-to-be-remade/515259/40 "2009-10-28T11:36:43Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> The movies of the 70s were wonderfully awash with beautiful long-haired women with bare breasts. Movies today are woefully lacking in this department. It’s almost like there was a rule back in the 70s where any movie, even a comedy, needed to have at least one scene with a sexy woman showing her breasts. Nowadays you’re more likely to see _male cocks_ in a movie.

Not sure what grade of movies you were watching, but I didn’t see much in the way of mainstream nudity such as what you’re talking about here…at least not in major release “A” movies. And I don’t think we see much in the way of male full frontal nudity today. Yes, you see it, but it is not mainstream.

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