# Strictly legal by the letter of the rules, but a jerk move nonetheless **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 24, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strictly-legal-by-the-letter-of-the-rules-but-a-jerk-move-nonetheless/984489 "2023-05-24T02:34:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strictly-legal-by-the-letter-of-the-rules-but-a-jerk-move-nonetheless/984489/201 "2023-06-05T09:54:00Z")
A jerk move in Risk is for two players to have an agreement to create an alliance and then steam roll every other player together. Then when they kill every other player in the game, because they both own so many territories but they’re poorly defended, they both agree to give up the game thus making everything pointless. I have had this happen so many times playing Risk with “friends”. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strictly-legal-by-the-letter-of-the-rules-but-a-jerk-move-nonetheless/984489/202 "2023-06-05T11:22:21Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > The spirit of the intentional grounding rule is that a quarterback shouldn’t be allowed to avoid a sack by deliberately throwing an incomplete pass. Yes, this. The “spirit” of the rule has nothing to do with the “intent of not completing the pass”. It’s to penalize avoiding an obvious and imminent sack. Spiking the ball is as obvious as it gets when it comes to intentionally throwing an incompletion, but it’s clearly allowed. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strictly-legal-by-the-letter-of-the-rules-but-a-jerk-move-nonetheless/984489/203 "2023-06-05T12:23:10Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > A jerk move in Risk is for two players to have an agreement to create an alliance and then steam roll every other player together. That’s not a jerk move. That’s exactly how the game is designed to be played. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strictly-legal-by-the-letter-of-the-rules-but-a-jerk-move-nonetheless/984489/204 "2023-06-05T13:07:23Z")
Why would you cut off the end of the post which is the part that’s supposed to be jerkish? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strictly-legal-by-the-letter-of-the-rules-but-a-jerk-move-nonetheless/984489/205 "2023-06-05T13:09:38Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > This play is functionally identical to kneeling, a deliberately failed play, called in the huddle as a failed play, it just burns off a few more seconds. This, exactly. With 5 seconds left, Mahomes could have run laterally, then backwards, and finally run out of the end zone, and the game would have still been over. @Robot_Arm thinks it’s okay for a punter to do this to end the game. I fail to see any distinction. But I doubt if anybody’s mind is going to be changed. ---
**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strictly-legal-by-the-letter-of-the-rules-but-a-jerk-move-nonetheless/984489/206 "2023-06-06T04:05:46Z")
The only people who care about that last 5 seconds are those that have money riding on the outcome, a blocked punt for a return and they cover the spread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/strictly-legal-by-the-letter-of-the-rules-but-a-jerk-move-nonetheless/984489.md?page=10)