# Stringbean is an odious, racist, sexist, intellectually dishonest crank

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 15, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775 "2015-04-15T20:30:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/21 "2015-04-15T22:51:49Z")

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Am I the only person who can’t remember the difference between **Stringbean** and **Green Bean** until I read their posts? Unfortunate username overlap.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/22 "2015-04-15T23:02:17Z")

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The warfare strategy is thus: make the campaign about the demographic groups and not about the candidate. Illustrated perfectly by this video. A venerable smorgasbord of demographic fairy tales, with the actual presidential candidate something of a side-piece. The first indication that this calculated endeavor has anything to do with Hillary Clinton isn’t until the 1:30 mark–two-thirds of the way in. Expect little interest from the left in Hillary herself; she is polarizing. Her campaign will seek to attack Republicans and unite minorities into the multicultural utopia promised by Obama. If she is short on actual policy, that’s a plus. The easiest way to unite all non-white males is not to offer specifics. Just point to the bad guys and continue to sell the fairy tale.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/23 "2015-04-15T23:08:08Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> The warfare strategy is thus: make the campaign about the demographic groups and not about the candidate. Illustrated perfectly by this video. A venerable smorgasbord of demographic fairy tales, with the actual presidential candidate something of a side-piece. The first indication that this calculated endeavor has anything to do with Hillary Clinton isn’t until the 1:30 mark–two-thirds of the way in. Expect little interest from the left in Hillary herself; she is polarizing. Her campaign will seek to attack Republicans and unite minorities into the multicultural utopia promised by Obama. If she is short on actual policy, that’s a plus. The easiest way to unite all non-white males is not to offer specifics. Just point to the bad guys and continue to sell the fairy tale.

What the hell are “demographic fairy tales”? What “demographic fairy tales” are in the video? What the fuck are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/24 "2015-04-15T23:09:27Z")

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Welcome to American politics. I’m not seeing anything in that ad description that wouldn’t apply to at least 90% of the political ads I’ve seen in my life. The fact of the matter is, the best (ie, most effective) ads are the ones that pique your emotions, not your intellect. Blame it on God for making us that way.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/25 "2015-04-15T23:12:54Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> In this case it looks like **Stringbean** is **coining** a bad phrase – “demographic warfare” – and framing a narrative around it, hoping it will get traction and enter this cycle’s lexicon of discourse, the way “class warfare” as a label for discussion of raising taxes on the rich did several years ago.
> 
> See [Frank Luntz](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz).

[Wayne LaPierre said that we’ve already had a ‘demographically-symbolic’ President and we don’t need another one.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/15/politics/nra-wayne-lapierre-obama-demographically-symbolic/)

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/26 "2015-04-15T23:14:39Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> Just point to the bad guys and continue to sell the fairy tale.

Which bad guys were pointed out in the video?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/27 "2015-04-15T23:20:20Z")

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Is it just me, or does it seem like we have more racists on the Dope these days?

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/28 "2015-04-15T23:23:09Z")

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I’m going to suggest we be a little more sympathetic to **Stringbean**. Reading his posts suggests to me that there is more to it than odious racist sexist intellectually dishonest crankitude, it’s really more of a mental health issue that needs to be addressed. He needs help, not punishment.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/29 "2015-04-15T23:33:11Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Pink Floyd still used disco balls in 1998, so you’re wrong about that.

In which case, since disco balls are still around, your analogy is totally meritless. I didn’t realize how triflin you were being.

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> And the meme implies a subhuman recipient, one that can hear things humans are too evolved to hear.

No, it implies that the recipient is furry, has a wet nose, and gives birth to litters of puppies.

Of course that’s not what it goddamned implies. Analogies don’t imply every aspect of the analogized object. Dogwhistle simply implies that a message is silent to most listeners only audible to its intended audience. It says nothing at all about the furriness, noses, litter size, or humanity of said audience.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/30 "2015-04-15T23:36:17Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> He is a 911 Truther…

And _really_ bad at physics, too, which is even worse!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/31 "2015-04-15T23:37:27Z")

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> [@Sattua](#):
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> Am I the only person who can’t remember the difference between **Stringbean** and **Green Bean** until I read their posts? Unfortunate username overlap.

Yeah, when I first saw a \*\*Stringbean \*\*post I thought **Green Bean** must have suffered head trauma but then I realized it was just some blathering right winger with a similar user name. \*\*Stringbean \*\*is an idiot and his post are shit fulled.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/32 "2015-04-15T23:42:01Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What the hell are “demographic fairy tales”? What “demographic fairy tales” are in the video? What the fuck are you talking about?

_The Age-Dependency Ratio’s New Clothes_  
_The Princess and the Period Analysis_  
_The Fisherman and his Net Migration Rate_

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/33 "2015-04-15T23:46:17Z")

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I had no idea until now that if I dropped an object it would fall sideways though the air, rather than hitting the resistance of the ground.

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/34 "2015-04-15T23:52:28Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> I’m going to suggest we be a little more sympathetic to **Stringbean**. Reading his posts suggests to me that there is more to it than odious racist sexist intellectually dishonest crankitude, it’s really more of a mental health issue that needs to be addressed. He needs help, not punishment.

A man traveling on the road to Jericho (Arkansas) was set upon by thieves, who robbed him and left him at the side of the road to die. Two psychiatrists were passing by and stopped at the bleeding man’s side. One looked at the other and said:

“Whoever did this needs our help.”

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**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/35 "2015-04-15T23:56:54Z")

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Oh, **Nametag** , you slay me.

In regard to the OP; **Stringbean** is not one of my favorite posters.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/36 "2015-04-16T01:05:06Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> I had no idea until now that if I dropped an object it would fall sideways though the air, rather than hitting the resistance of the ground.

Well, to be fair, that would only happen if you held your hand under it. The object, sensing your hand, would move laterally until your hand was no longer in the way. Duh!!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/37 "2015-04-16T01:09:16Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Well, to be fair, that would only happen if you held your hand under it. The object, sensing your hand, would move laterally until your hand was no longer in the way. Duh!!

But would this all happen at the speed of gravity?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/38 "2015-04-16T01:15:18Z")

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> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#):
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> Looking at **Stringbean** ’s further responses to that thread, I think it’s probably worth pointing out that it’s entirely reasonable to both consider Hilary to be a cold-hearted career politician out to say and do what is best for her chances in the election and not out of some inherent honesty or straightforwardness…

[shrug] No more or less than Bill was. And pretty much our only real choices this cycle are going to be cynical career pols, or earnest RW nutcases. Better the careerist than the fiend.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/39 "2015-04-16T01:23:58Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [shrug] No more or less than Bill was. And pretty much our only real choices this cycle are going to be cynical career pols, or earnest RW nutcases. Better the careerist than the fiend.

Careerist and the Fiend  
Careerist and the Fiend  
One is calculating, the other unclean…

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/40 "2015-04-16T01:28:02Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Careerist and the Fiend.

Band name. Mediocre band name.

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