# Stringbean is an odious, racist, sexist, intellectually dishonest crank

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 15, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775 "2015-04-15T20:30:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/61 "2015-04-16T13:32:10Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> If you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one who howls is the one you hit. I find this particularly[true](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=732394&highlight=Shodan) of **BrainGlutton**.
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> Most politicians are arrogant phonies, especially limousine liberal politicians, but Hillary is especially so. Unfortunately for her, this is too deeply impressed on the public record to overcome with a ineptly-staged campaign kickoff, with its planted liberal “ordinary citizens” and Hillary’s “let’s not talk about the issues, I just want to be your pal” stuff that she simply can’t bring off for long. Her sleazy, lying, sexual predator husband did it very well - she does it rather badly.
> 
> I still think she will make the nomination, mostly on momentum, but I am gaining a growing hope that she will never have another chance to steal the furnishings from the White House on her last day of office. I could be wrong - I hope I’m not.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

We’ll see how much of this is your bias talking (not that you’re alone in this), and how much is accurate analysis. Considering how much more popular Hillary is than the various potential Republicans at this point, I’m not sure if your “growing hope” is warranted. But we’ll see.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/62 "2015-04-16T13:51:51Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> …she is polarizing.

Unlike every candidate for president ever? “Polarizing” means absolutely nothing as a description of a presidential candidate.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/63 "2015-04-16T14:09:47Z")

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“…and I’ve already deigned the rules of the game…”

Deign def: to condescend reluctantly and with a strong sense of the affront to one’s superiority that is involved.

Methinks your strong sense of superiority is misplaced. You don’t even do words too good.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/64 "2015-04-16T14:38:58Z")

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> [@Sattua](#):
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> Am I the only person who can’t remember the difference between **Stringbean** and **Green Bean** until I read their posts? Unfortunate username overlap.

Nonono, Green Bean is a complete sweetheart and not like him at all.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/65 "2015-04-16T14:51:23Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> You think you’ve done some killer, insightful posting by pointing out that a political candidate is trying to appeal to demographics that she thinks will vote for her?
> 
> The truth, laid bare! A political candidate is trying to get more votes!
> 
> You go, girl.

I fear you miss the important point: a candidate _he doesn’t like_ is trying to get elected. This simply will not do.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/66 "2015-04-16T14:55:38Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Wayne LaPierre said that we’ve already had a ‘demographically-symbolic’ President and we don’t need another one.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/15/politics/nra-wayne-lapierre-obama-demographically-symbolic/)

What do you call a dog whistle that dogs, humans, and deaf people can hear? A foghorn, maybe? He might as well have said “godammit, it’s time for a white male president again, as God intended.”

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/67 "2015-04-16T15:11:50Z")

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“We’ve gone black! Let’s prove everyone wrong and show that we can go back!”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/68 "2015-04-16T15:14:07Z")

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> [@GrandWino](#):
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> Unlike every candidate for president ever? “Polarizing” means absolutely nothing as a description of a presidential candidate.

“Polarizing” means “It’s your fault I have an irrational hatred of you”, in the same way that the same Republicans who decided on Day 1 to say no to anything and everything Obama does or wants (right down to filibustering their own bills and nominees) call him “divisive”.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/69 "2015-04-16T15:33:12Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> I admit to having a soft spot for my botanical twin, however.

So does **Stringbean**. In his head.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/70 "2015-04-16T15:46:28Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What the hell are “demographic fairy tales”? What “demographic fairy tales” are in the video? What the fuck are you talking about?

I love this post. Just sayin’ is all.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/71 "2015-04-16T15:50:21Z")

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> [@Sattua](#):
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> Am I the only person who can’t remember the difference between **Stringbean** and **Green Bean** until I read their posts? Unfortunate username overlap.

Stingbean’s the one with the black goatee, that’s how you tell them apart. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/72 "2015-04-16T15:54:40Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Shodan
> 
> Most politicians are arrogant phonies, especially limousine liberal politicians, but Hillary is especially so. Unfortunately for her, this is too deeply impressed on the public record to overcome with a ineptly-staged campaign kickoff, with its planted liberal “ordinary citizens” and Hillary’s “let’s not talk about the issues, I just want to be your pal” stuff that she simply can’t bring off for long. Her sleazy, lying, sexual predator husband did it very well - she does it rather badly.

Ok, this is a good contrast to whatever point **Stringbean** is trying to make. You have identified a few articulable reasons for opposing Mrs. Clinton. This pitting however, is about \*\*Stringbean \*\*claiming some weird ass shit about Mrs. Clinton waging a race war, or a class war, or something. It’s really hard to tell what he means by his demographic square dance comments. However, when you try to understand what he is saying, it seems to boil down to “Clinton is saying stupid stuff that no white male would ever be dumb enough to buy, so she must be going after stupid women and minorities.”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/73 "2015-04-16T15:56:59Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> If you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one who howls is the one you hit. I find this particularly[true](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=732394&highlight=Shodan) of **BrainGlutton**.
> 
> Most politicians are arrogant phonies, especially limousine liberal politicians, but Hillary is especially so. Unfortunately for her, this is too deeply impressed on the public record to overcome with a ineptly-staged campaign kickoff, with its planted liberal “ordinary citizens” and Hillary’s “let’s not talk about the issues, I just want to be your pal” stuff that she simply can’t bring off for long. Her sleazy, lying, sexual predator husband did it very well - she does it rather badly.
> 
> I still think she will make the nomination, mostly on momentum, but I am gaining a growing hope that she will never have another chance to steal the furnishings from the White House on her last day of office. I could be wrong - I hope I’m not.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

I, for one, wish the Democrats could find someone better than Hillary to run. It’s hard to imagine that they can’t, but name recognition is a powerful weapon, especially in this era of reality stars and people who famous for no other reason than that are famous. Still, she’s smart, hard working and is mature enough that most of us who tend to vote Democratic don’t have to hold our noses too tightly to vote for her.

But… the bigger problem is not Hillary. It’s the failure of the GOP to put up a serious, substantive contender who doesn’t scare the bejeesus out of more than half the country. Even Chris Christie, whom I consider one of the more serious ones, is talking about ground troops to fight the so-called Islamic State. Do we never learn? And when the Republicans get power, they seem to always do something like putting abortion at the front of their action plan. They keep proving themselves incapable of governing at the national level. I simply won’t risk another pointless war by voting for a GOP hawk. In fact, I wish Hillary were less hawkish herself!

So, yeah, I almost certainly will vote for Hillary. I think she’ll be a perfectly adequate president, even if I think there must many other Democratic politicians who would be better. If the GOP could come up with someone like Alan Simpson, they might have a chance for my vote. Until they do, it’s Hill, baby, Hill.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/74 "2015-04-16T16:02:11Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> …but I am gaining a growing hope that she will never have another chance to steal the furnishings from the White House on her last day of office…

Comedy gold. If there were not a **Shodan** , we would have to invent one.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/75 "2015-04-16T16:04:16Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> “Polarizing” means “It’s your fault I have an irrational hatred of you”, in the same way that the same Republicans who decided on Day 1 to say no to anything and everything Obama does or wants (right down to filibustering their own bills and nominees) call him “divisive”.

The only place I can think of with non-polarizing political figures is North Korea. Those Kims, man, talk about your landslide victories!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/76 "2015-04-16T16:05:22Z")

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I’m more puzzled than concerned about Stringbean’s reaction to the announcement video. I think of it more like the first pitch of the baseball season. It can be a ball, strike, home run, or groundout. In the vast scheme of things, it isn’t terribly significant in terms of the team’s final record. Hillary released a feel-good check all the boxes video. So what? In the 2016 campaign, this is but the first pitch. There’s plenty of campaigning left and plenty of things she will say that will make her friends and enemies on both sides. Let it play out and chill out.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/77 "2015-04-16T16:13:41Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I’m more puzzled than concerned about Stringbean’s reaction to the announcement video. I think of it more like the first pitch of the baseball season. It can be a ball, strike, home run, or groundout. In the vast scheme of things, it isn’t terribly significant in terms of the team’s final record. Hillary released a feel-good check all the boxes video. So what? In the 2016 campaign, this is but the first pitch. There’s plenty of campaigning left and plenty of things she will say that will make her friends and enemies on both sides. Let it play out and chill out.

Some people have a visceral hate for a given politician and/or a give political party and are going to go off the deep end no matter what. Hillary’s opening salvo was nothing remarkable, and I’m guessing that was on purpose. She has virtually nothing to fear in the primary and so has no reason to risk anything.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/78 "2015-04-16T16:17:50Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I, for one, wish the Democrats could find someone better than Hillary to run. It’s hard to imagine that they can’t, but name recognition is a powerful weapon, especially in this era of reality stars and people who famous for no other reason than that are famous. Still, she’s smart, hard working and is mature enough that most of us who tend to vote Democratic don’t have to hold our noses too tightly to vote for her.
> 
> But… the bigger problem is not Hillary. It’s the failure of the GOP to put up a serious, substantive contender who doesn’t scare the bejeesus out of more than half the country. Even Chris Christie, whom I consider one of the more serious ones, is talking about ground troops to fight the so-called Islamic State. Do we never learn? And when the Republicans get power, they seem to always do something like putting abortion at the front of their action plan. They keep proving themselves incapable of governing at the national level. I simply won’t risk another pointless war by voting for a GOP hawk. In fact, I wish Hillary were less hawkish herself!
> 
> So, yeah, I almost certainly will vote for Hillary. I think she’ll be a perfectly adequate president, even if I think there must many other Democratic politicians who would be better. If the GOP could come up with someone like Alan Simpson, they might have a chance for my vote. Until they do, it’s Hill, baby, Hill.

Speaking on behalf of the conservative wing of the extreme left, I fully endorse these remarks. **John-Boy** , this bud’s for you!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/79 "2015-04-16T16:27:49Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I love this post. Just sayin’ is all.

Thank you 🙂

I’d love it if **Stringbean** deigned to answer the questions.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stringbean-is-an-odious-racist-sexist-intellectually-dishonest-crank/717775/80 "2015-04-16T16:44:37Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Thank you 🙂
> 
> I’d love it if **Stringbean** deigned to answer the questions.

From such as _we_? As if.

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