# StubHub will you please die in a fire? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 15, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901 "2012-04-15T23:54:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/81 "2012-04-16T07:30:44Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I can’t think of a single act that I would pay $950 to see. Not criticizing or anything, just marvelling - different strokes for different folks. I’m just wondering who these gigs are full of - how on earth can the 14 year old girls afford $950 tickets? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/82 "2012-04-16T13:40:05Z")
> [@voguevixen](#): > > Some of my coworkers SALUTED me for living my dream. For future reference, [this](http://i41.tinypic.com/33y5bgp.jpg) isn’t a salute. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/83 "2012-04-16T14:01:20Z")
> [@hermette](#): > > I’m just wondering who these gigs are full of - how on earth can the 14 year old girls afford $950 tickets? 14-yr-old girls with rich, overly indulgent parents? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/84 "2012-04-16T14:02:32Z")
> [@voguevixen](#): > > Once again, StubHub is bad. Counterpoint: My little brother makes a few grand every year buying up tickets for baseball games he thinks might be important in the playoff race, and reselling them for maybe 2x-3x face value as the date approaches. StubHub is amazingly awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/85 "2012-04-16T14:31:24Z")
> [@voguevixen](#): > > Feel free to start a separate thread about my disturbing ephebophilia, shitty taste in music, or poor money-handling skills. Let’s keep this confined to craptacular customer service and dreams dashed. So noted. Request denied. voguevixen, I listened to One Direction on SNL a few weeks ago. I’ll admit it. They were good. But they were designed to be good. Just like every boy band in the history of boy bands, they were put together using a formula to reach as much of a target market as possible. There was the preppy guy, the retro guy, the cute but scuzzy guy, etc etc etc. Then they sang a song written by a team of writers who know exactly what sells because they’ve done it a million times before. It’s always about how beautiful you are and how only they can see it and wouldn’t it be great to be in love because I love you, you special special person. It’s been this way through N\*Sync, 98 degrees, Backstreet Boys, New Kids, and hell, even the goddamned Monkees! And the shelf life for this band is 4 years tops, to be replaced by another boy band. And it works. Every time it works to draw in the 13-17 year olds until the 13 year olds turn 17 and they need a new batch of 13 year olds and a new band. Every time. They cycle continues. It works because the stupid 13 year olds don’t know any better and have never heard of the boy bands that came before THIS boy band that’s the most amazing boy band ever. Why am I telling you this when you’re 41 years old and should have seen more cycles of this than most people on these boards? Because something has gone horribly wrong somewhere inside your skull, and you’re not able to connect the dots on this whole thing. So I’m spelling it out for you in the hopes that something might click. Probably not though. TLDR version: how about you save $980 and just buy a subscription of Tiger Beat to masturbate to instead? ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/86 "2012-04-16T15:50:13Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Counterpoint: My little brother makes a few grand every year buying up tickets for baseball games he thinks might be important in the playoff race, and reselling them for maybe 2x-3x face value as the date approaches. StubHub is amazingly awesome. This is in no way a counterpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/87 "2012-04-16T15:51:48Z")
I can understand liking pop music. It’s formulated to be fun. The kids singing the songs are basically props, so musically, it doesn’t matter how old the kids are that are singing it. My daughter loves Selena Gomez and a few of her songs are fun and singable. Here’s what I genuinely don’t understand: You’ve been to a teenybopper concert before. How are you having fun? I’ve taken my daughter twice to see Selena. It was, musically speaking, no fun as an adult. The waiting period had a projection “text to see your message”. Every other message was “scream if you love Selena”. The audience obliged. Every. Single. Time. When she finally did hit the stage, it was a screamfest. And all the posters in the way. Typically, one doesn’t go to these shows to see their favorite musician perform. One typically goes to say they went. So what’s in it for you? ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/88 "2012-04-16T17:50:03Z")
Because I’m not a douchebag that likes to derail threads over stupid superficial bullshit, I’m going to post a relevant reply: I wouldn’t have accepted the $650 ticket. I would have demanded a refund of my full price, and then tried to get them to give me another seat for free because of their fuck up. I mean, if an airline overbooks, they offer you something like a free hotel room to sweeten the deal, instead of actually fucking you over more. I mean, it’s $300 less, but the seat is 20x shittier. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/89 "2012-04-16T18:43:50Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Because I’m not a douchebag that likes to derail threads over stupid superficial bullshit, I’m going to post a relevant reply: > > I wouldn’t have accepted the $650 ticket. I would have demanded a refund of my full price, and then tried to get them to give me another seat for free because of their fuck up. I mean, if an airline overbooks, they offer you something like a free hotel room to sweeten the deal, instead of actually fucking you over more. I mean, it’s $300 less, but the seat is 20x shittier. Well, it’s more like buying something from eBay than from an airline. If you win an eBay auction and the seller decides they don’t want to sell it to you, it’s fairly easy for them to back out of the deal. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisHansen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@ChrisHansen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisHansen)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/90 "2012-04-16T18:57:25Z")
Have a seat over here, voguevixen. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/91 "2012-04-16T19:02:46Z")
> [@ChrisHansen](#): > > Have a seat over here, voguevixen. Did you bring a pitcher of [del]vodka[/del] lemonade? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/92 "2012-04-16T20:41:20Z")
I’m surprised you didn’t go to the concert and find the guy sitting in the seat you purchased and told him to get the fuck out of it ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/93 "2012-04-17T03:47:50Z")
Stubhub’s policy: FanProtectTM for Buyers Summary of StubHub guarantee to Buyers: You will get your tickets in time for the event Your tickets will be valid for entry Your tickets will be the same as those you ordered If any of these things do not occur, we wFanProtectTM for Buyers Summary of StubHub guarantee to Buyers: You will get your tickets in time for the event Your tickets will be valid for entry Your tickets will be the same as those you ordered If any of these things do not occur, we will find you comparable or better tickets to the event, or offer you a refund. So in accordance to their policy, all they have to do is refund the full amount. At the bottom of the page it says “if you do not agree do not use this site”. Yeah, it sucks to want to go to a concert and you can’t. I don’t see how stubhub is to blame. All the seller has to do is have a “legitimate” reason to back out. Had this been a concert that isn’t sold out, I’m sure they could get you a better ticket. In this case, none are to be had. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/94 "2012-04-17T04:26:18Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > You know, as the parent of a teenager, I spent a fair amount of time and money at teeny-bopper concerts. We crowd-surfed at Green Day (which honestly my adult friend and I and the two kids had a blast at), I was probably the oldest person at the Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance shows, and I wound up babysitting a drunk mom with a Tyson Ritter crush at All-American Rejects (the pathos of whom may be influencing my opinion of voguevixen). This isn’t about hating on pop music or even “kid” music. It’s about appropriate enjoyment of music, which for a grown person, should primarily consist of enjoying the _music_, not fantasizing about the musicians, especially when they are young enough to be your kids. I wouldn’t exactly consider Green Day a boy band. Pop, as in they hit the top forty, but they’re not really teeny-bopper or anything. And my cousin’s wife recently went a New Kids on the Block reunion concert, (she was joking about how she had a crush on Jordan when she was a kid), but **voguevixen** sounds a lot like I did when I was thirteen and had this massive crush on the kid from _Terminator 2_. ---
**Author:** ![GreedySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a698b9/32.png) [@GreedySmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreedySmurf)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/95 "2012-04-17T05:25:14Z")
While I may question your music choice 😃 , I’m fully behind your right to spend as much as you like on seeing your favourite band. The only reason I knew who One Direction was, is that they are currently touring Australia, and made an appearance (and performed a mini-concert) on the morning show I watch. Attended by hordes of pre-pubsecent girls, screaming and crying 😕 Curious if you paid for the original ticket by credit card? In which case if it was me I’d be demanding a full refund or threatening to do a chargeback. If they can’t deliver on the promised seat, that’s a full refund thanks, no ‘credit’, no partial refund. Give me my money back! ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/96 "2012-04-17T06:21:38Z")
If John Lennon and George Harrison returned from the dead and The Beatles got back together I wouldn’t pay $950.00 to see them. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/97 "2012-04-17T06:53:50Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > So noted. Request denied. > > voguevixen, I listened to One Direction on SNL a few weeks ago. I’ll admit it. They were good. But they were designed to be good. Just like every boy band in the history of boy bands, they were put together using a formula to reach as much of a target market as possible. There was the preppy guy, the retro guy, the cute but scuzzy guy, etc etc etc. Then they sang a song written by a team of writers who know exactly what sells because they’ve done it a million times before. It’s always about how beautiful you are and how only they can see it and wouldn’t it be great to be in love because I love you, you special special person. It’s been this way through N\*Sync, 98 degrees, Backstreet Boys, New Kids, and hell, even the goddamned Monkees! And the shelf life for this band is 4 years tops, to be replaced by another boy band. > > And it works. Every time it works to draw in the 13-17 year olds until the 13 year olds turn 17 and they need a new batch of 13 year olds and a new band. Every time. They cycle continues. It works because the stupid 13 year olds don’t know any better and have never heard of the boy bands that came before THIS boy band that’s the most amazing boy band ever. > > Why am I telling you this when you’re 41 years old and should have seen more cycles of this than most people on these boards? Because something has gone horribly wrong somewhere inside your skull, and you’re not able to connect the dots on this whole thing. So I’m spelling it out for you in the hopes that something might click. Probably not though. > > TLDR version: how about you save $980 and just buy a subscription of Tiger Beat to masturbate to instead? No. TLDR version: You like something I don’t like. There must be something wrong with your brain. I could just as easily say that anyone who goes to a concert must somehow be being manipulated. I mean, you get the same music, but at a horrible volume, with possible mistakes thrown in, and a lot of other people making noise and moving around, detracting from the experience. You can’t dance to it like you can at home. You can try to sing along, but you can’t hear yourself. That is, assuming you aren’t at one of those other concerts where the mix is so horrible that you can’t hear anything anyways. that’s my experience of concerts, and the reason they are not my cuppa tea. But I would never say you are being manipulated if you somehow like the experience, or even had better ones. So back the fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/98 "2012-04-17T07:16:12Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I wouldn’t exactly consider Green Day a boy band. Pop, as in they hit the top forty, but they’re not really teeny-bopper or anything. > \*. Also, their first hit was in 1994 - their \*career \*is older than most boy band members. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/99 "2012-04-17T08:39:40Z")
Why are their hubs stubbed? Smoking? ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901/100 "2012-04-17T09:12:34Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Why are their hubs stubbed? Smoking? Stub-Hubburath was one of the Elder Gods, the moody one with the earring and bandana. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stubhub-will-you-please-die-in-a-fire/618901.md?page=6)