Way to weasel out of replying there, you fucking pussy. What, did you think I’d forget what we were talking about? I said you were talking about christian beliefs, you challenged me to show you where, and I did. So do you have anything to say about it now?
Want to tell me the chapter and verse in the bible that backs up your beliefs? Or just admit that you made them up yourself and pretend that the bible backs you up? I know it can be hard to admit that the bible doesn’t say what you want it to say. You don’t quite feel comfortable with your bigotry and hate, it doesn’t feel just right to you, does it? But, if you can convince yourself that the bible makes your hate and bigotry OK, then all of a sudden all those dirty little feelings are not only justified, they’re righteous! You’re a good person, one of god’s chosen! And when someone points out that the bible doesn’t really say what you need it to say, you get really, really defensive, and scared, and angry.
I keep getting a picture in my mind. A guy goes into a church and grabs a communion wafer. He holds a gun up to it and says if you don’t give me the collections Jesus is going to get it.
But the portrayed victim here would be able to feel pain, and has the desire to continue to live. Would the deity allegedly present in the host even be able to feel pain?
(According to Catholic teaching? - Orthodox teaching? - “Real Presence” Lutheran teaching? - and so on…)
We are in agreement. Death threats = douchetastic, belief in the holiness of the Host notwithstanding.
That’s the problem, though,that there is no “aside from that.”
If I’m hanging out with my pals on the Great Lawn, and we’re doing our thing, talking about the excellent prospects of your New York Metropolitan Baseball Club, and some douche runs by, grabs a handful of our orange-and-blue Oreos, and runs off crumbling them up and cackling, “Mets SUCK! Anybody who likes the Mets doesn’t know SHIT about baseball! And you’re BAD PEOPLE, too!”
Well, shit. I don’t particularly know WHAT I’d do in a situation like that. I don’t think I’d get off my blanket to chase him down, though.
But Mass, which is a solemn rite, Communion, which is a holy ritual, and the Host, which I believe is both fully a wafer and fully the corpus of my Savior- I might try to tackle that guy.
I’ll type slowly so you can follow along. You made a number of claims about what christianity teaches you to do. I pointed out that your representations of christian beliefs bear no resemblance to the bible, and asked from whence your beliefs came. You acted like a total ass, making it clear that you have no idea what the bible says about your beliefs. I pointed out that you have made up your beliefs out of whole cloth, and speculated on a reason why you therefore defend your beliefs so vigorously. Did you follow that? It’s nothing that could not have been easily understood by any reasonably intelligent person who has been reading the thread.
Again, you’ve got my side all figured out, so what’s the point?
Ask a decent question, bereft of whatever it is that’s so poisonous about you, without cherry-picking from dozens of posts in different contexts, and you’d be much more likely to get the kind of answer you want.
Unless, of course, you actually don’t want that kind of answer.
You’re fantasizing about using violence against a person because he didn’t put a fucking cracker in his mouth quick enough to please you, and **I’m **poisonous.
You are an ugly person. And I’m not talking about your outside.
Well, there’s always 1 Timothy: “If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”
There’s Ephesians: “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.”
There are plenty of places where Scriptural authority provides that one ought look after his family; his interest in taking good care of those to whom he has joined in the sight of God or those whose presence in his life are a gift from God is paramount- those people are his responsibility.
It would be better if no one starved, but a man must feed his family first, and to choose between feeding another who has alternate means or feeding his family for whom he is the only means is no choice at all.
Of course, you have to look past your own vitriol and you have to be interested in Bible study to get past the trendy stuff, and they certainly don’t print this in “The Big Book Of Bible Verses To Cherry-Pick for the Purposes of Pissing Off Theists (KJV),” but it does exist.
Being a Christian is a whole lot more than looking at a rulebook like it was one of those old Choose-Your-Own-Adventures.
