I don’t think that Fantome’s position is stupid, but this is not really new stuff, (and Bricker’s thread in GD lays it out pretty well). I just figure that (even in the Pit) these discussion will go better if folks at least recognize what the other side is saying, even when they feel it is utter bunk.
I cited Fantome’s remarks as the clearest examples of the phenomenon I was describing. Similar remarks can be found scattereed through the thread.
I don’t disagree with you there, which is why I’ve been referring people back to that great post of Bricker’s. But, it’s one of those SDMB never-fail-you-can-set-your-watch-by-it phenomenon that any explanation of theology will have challengers disputing whether or not the theology has any basis in scientific reality…even if the discussion is meant to be instructive as to what the theology is (as Bricker’s post was meant to be), and not for the purpose of witnessing or apology.
Which always kind of puzzles me, because the purpose of a post like Bricker’s is to fight ignorance.