# Studio 60 premiers tonight!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 18, 2006, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160 "2006-09-18T12:30:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/101 "2006-09-21T13:27:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Ricky and Ron are gonna be present. One of them’s being played by Evan Handler, who was Bruno Gianelli’s consultant Doug on TWW. And the other one is played by Carlos Jacott, who’s done a number of small things but is downright beloved by fans of the movie Kicking and Screaming (_not_ the Will Ferrell version) for his portrayal of Otis. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/102 "2006-09-21T14:06:32Z")
[QUOTE=Gadarene] And the other one is played by Carlos Jacott, who’s done a number of small things but is downright beloved by fans of the movie Kicking and Screaming (_not_ the Will Ferrell version) for his portrayal of Otis. [/QUOTE] He’s also on a very short list of actors who have managed the Whedon Hat Trick, appearing in _Buffy_, _Angel_, and _Firefly._ ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/103 "2006-09-21T15:22:19Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] He’s also on a very short list of actors who have managed the Whedon Hat Trick, appearing in _Buffy_, _Angel_, and _Firefly._ [/QUOTE] He was also on an episode of _The West Wing_ … don’t see any _Sports Night_ in his bio, though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/104 "2006-09-21T16:36:16Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] Did Rick & Ron (or something like that) – the two bad writers, ever appear on screen? [/QUOTE] I wonder if they’ll be like Ed and Larry, always together and you can’t tell which is which. No one taking me up on my bet on how many episodes air before Josh Malina shows up? I think he’s been in every Sorkin project, including a cameo in _A Few Good Men_, where his two lines where “Yes, Sir?” and “Yes, Sir.” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/105 "2006-09-21T16:40:26Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] No one taking me up on my bet on how many episodes air before Josh Malina shows up? I think he’s been in every Sorkin project, including a cameo in _A Few Good Men_\*, where his two lines where “Yes, Sir?” and “Yes, Sir.” [/QUOTE] It took 3 years to get Josh Malina onto _West Wing_, so it may take a while. Is his Sports Night girlfriend still working on _Numbers_? And Felicity Huffman (who had a one-shot role in WW) has a good gig at the moment, so she won’t be back anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/106 "2006-09-21T17:34:34Z")
> [@](#): > > And Felicity Huffman (who had a one-shot role in WW) has a good gig at the moment, so she won’t be back anytime soon. Back as in “on Sutdio 60,” or back as in “back on Studio 60”? Because she played herself in the pilot. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/107 "2006-09-21T18:09:26Z")
Considering that Malina’s been in everything Sorkin’s done, and he’s Tim Busfield’s brother-in-law, I’d say we’ll see him eventually. Were he a bit older, he could have had Steven Weber’s role. I figure Janel Moloney or Richard Schiff will pop up at some point, too. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/108 "2006-09-21T19:16:23Z")
It might fun if it became clear at some point that Studio 60 exists in the same universe as the West Wing, like if they did a joke about President Matt Santos. ---
**Author:** ![jacquilynne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jacquilynne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacquilynne)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/109 "2006-09-21T19:22:01Z")
[QUOTE=Dewey Finn] It might fun if it became clear at some point that Studio 60 exists in the same universe as the West Wing, like if they did a joke about President Matt Santos. [/QUOTE] Since they’ve already done a joke about President George Bush, that seems like it can’t be true. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/110 "2006-09-21T20:09:40Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] I hope the Judd Hirsch character shows up again. Is he supposed to be a recurring character? If not, that was a really good one-off performance. [/QUOTE] Since he’s got that weekly gig on CBS’ _Numb3rs_, he probably doesn’t have enough time to show up but once in awhile. But really, his character isn’t really important anymore, is he? It was established that he was the mentor to our Two Heroes, and that the banned script was written by Matt four years before. This show is going to be about the new direction the show within the show is taking. No need to dwell on the past. Oh, and the future Mrs. Factotum, Sabrina Lloyd (who played Natalie on _Sports Night_) isn’t on it anymore. She was replaced at the beginning of last season by Diane Farr. I do look forward to Matt and Danny going head to head with Rick & Ron, those two writers they can’t fire. That should be good for one or two episodes. Evan Handler was the bald aid that kept knocking heads with Toby in _TWW_, right? [QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase] I heard it as 1996 as well. So let me throw out a WAG. It was in the script originally as 1996 and 10 years. Then somebody noticed that The Daily Show was celebrating its 10th anniversary, which of course means that it started in 1996. Not wanting people to make that connection, Sorkin changed it to 1986 and 20 years. Hughley botched it by remembering the original line but trying for a last minute save. It was still the best take of a difficult and noisy scene so they left it in, especially since they knew what the line should be and that made them hear it more clearly than the rest of the audience. [/QUOTE] But this show wasn’t broadcast live. Any first-year looper worth the ink his diploma is printed with could make it clear if that’s what really happened. Hughley botched it by remembering the original line but trying for a last minute save. It was still the best take of a difficult and noisy scene so they left it in, especially since they knew what the line should be and that made them hear it more clearly than the rest of the audience. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/111 "2006-09-21T20:19:53Z")
I was just thinking (rather than working) about how Sorkin reused a couple _Sports Night_ concepts on _West Wing_–like Dan embarrassing himself to Hillary Clinton/Sam doing the same with some columnist. Or the fact that Jeremy and Sam both found out that their fathers had been engaged in long term affairs, and so on. I am _really_ hoping Thespos comes to visit Studio 60. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/112 "2006-09-21T20:44:34Z")
[QUOTE=Draelin] I was just thinking (rather than working) about how Sorkin reused a couple _Sports Night_ concepts on _West Wing_–like Dan embarrassing himself to Hillary Clinton/Sam doing the same with some columnist. Or the fact that Jeremy and Sam both found out that their fathers had been engaged in long term affairs, and so on. [/QUOTE] He does that quite a bit. He even used the phrase “Her legs go all the way down to the floor” on both shows. Matt and Danny need a mentor, a la Isaac/Leo. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/113 "2006-09-22T01:43:14Z")
[QUOTE=Sean Factotum] Hughley botched it by remembering the original line but trying for a last minute save. It was still the best take of a difficult and noisy scene so they left it in, especially since they knew what the line should be and that made them hear it more clearly than the rest of the audience. [/QUOTE] After all, it’s entirely possible that Hughley’s character would randomly misspeak. I mean, people do stumble and slur words in real life, for no reason at all. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/114 "2006-09-22T01:54:45Z")
The weird thing is I watched the episode twice and it sounded like Hughley said 1986 online and 1996 on the broadcast. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/115 "2006-09-24T15:49:03Z")
I just got to see it. I enjoyed it. Unlike many of the others here, I liked Chandler Bing, but have no problem with Matthew Perry in this new role. I usually don’t watch dramas so I’ll be curious to see if this can hold my attention, but for now, I’ll be watching again. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/116 "2006-09-25T03:10:03Z")
At first I thought y’all were nuts about Hughley saying “1996”: I’d seen the pilot three times, and never noticed it before. But it’s re-running on Bravo right now, I turned up the volume and made a point of listening to that line, and he _does_ say 1996! :eek: I can’t think of any accent or patois or speech pattern that would make “eighty-six” sound like “ninety-six.” Bizarre. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160/117 "2006-09-25T05:09:04Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] The weird thing is I watched the episode twice and it sounded like Hughley said 1986 online and 1996 on the broadcast. [/QUOTE] I did too. I heard it as 1996 the first viewing and 1986 in the second. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/studio-60-premiers-tonight/373160.md?page=5)