# Stuff (books, movies, food, etc.) you like, even though you know its really not very good?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 15, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142 "2009-07-15T19:44:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![congodwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@congodwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/congodwarf)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/21 "2009-07-16T15:43:06Z")

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A book called _Dawn of the Vampire_. I can’t even remember how many times I’ve read this book. The book itself isn’t all that bad. The story is fairly original - as far as vampire stories go.

But, the editing is atrocious. It’s bad to the point that two characters swap names about 3/4 of the way through the book.

But, I still love the book.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/22 "2009-07-16T15:50:58Z")

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> [@torie](#):
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> VH1 reality shows. Anything on that channel that ends in ‘Of Love’. I Love Money, Charm School.
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> Atrocious television. But I never miss an episode.

Og help me. That **VH1**. I can’t stand I Love Money or Charm School, but I have to admit that not only will I re-watch reruns of all the “decade” shows even though I’ve seen them all … and not only did I watch that “Tough Love/Bootcamp” show … but that I (oh, man) RECORDED the Bootcamp show, so I wouldn’t miss an episode.

(buries head in shame)

Also, I watched the first season of “Rock of Love.” It was hysterical.

(more shame)

But I can’t watch the subsequent seasons, and I can’t even sit through commercials for the “Tour Bus” version of it without cringing and squirming. Brett just seems so … dirty. In the not-fun way. Makes me think of the Family Guy line about “you like like, if I touched you, you’d be sticky.”  
In the food realm … **FunYuns**.

They give me a very slightly queasy feeling if I eat too many of them at once. They’re weird. They’re unholy approximations of a pseudo-vegetable. I don’t blame anyone who recoils at the sight of them.

But, sweet Jeebus, I love those things. The bubbly-crispy texture, the varied sizes, the way they taste of straight-up glutamates. Nothing handles a craving for salt better … except possibly for a big spoonful of Maggi seasoning - straight from the bottle to my mouth - the smell of which alone makes Mr. Horseshoe turn green and leave the room.

Also, popcorn - specifically, the kind you get at the movies or sporting events, covered in salty yellow chemical fake-butter goo. I’m a nibbler, eat numerous small meals a day, am useless at Thanksgiving or all-you-can-eat buffets … but **movie popcorn** is the one single thing on this Earth I will continue to eat until either it’s all gone or I’ve thrown up, whichever comes first.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/23 "2009-07-16T15:53:38Z")

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Bad teen dramas like _90210_ and _Dawson’s Creek_. And John Hughes movies - all of them.

McDonald’s.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/24 "2009-07-16T15:58:01Z")

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> [@SaharaTea](#):
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> Bad teen dramas like _90210_ and _Dawson’s Creek_. And John Hughes movies - all of them.
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> McDonald’s.

Oh, me too. I can’t count the hours I’ve wasted watching Dawson’s Creek or 90210. Not that newfangled 90210 at least.

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**Author:** ![TheMerchandise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b487fb/32.png) [@TheMerchandise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheMerchandise)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/25 "2009-07-16T16:03:10Z")

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Meg Cabot’s **Mediator** series of YA books. It’s about a teenage girl who talks about the boys she likes, her step-brothers, and what designers she’s wearing… oh, and she sees and helps out ghosts. But that’s really secondary to the more important stuff.

Also, almost anything by Mercedes Lackey. Especially her **Elemental Masters** series.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/26 "2009-07-16T16:19:44Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Oh, me too. I can’t count the hours I’ve wasted watching Dawson’s Creek or 90210. Not that newfangled 90210 at least.

I must admit I tuned in for the new show, but only to see Brenda and Kelly reunited at the Peach Pit. The rest of the show is total crap and not in a good way.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/27 "2009-07-16T16:21:26Z")

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> [@SaharaTea](#):
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> I must admit I tuned in for the new show, but only to see Brenda and Kelly reunited at the Peach Pit. The rest of the show is total crap and not in a good way.

They got Shannon Doherty to come back?! I thought she was all, “Over my dead body.” Brenda was always my favorite part of that show. I just never felt the Valerie as an instigator–had to be Brenda for me.

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**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/28 "2009-07-16T16:21:56Z")

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Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure.

David Eddings.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/29 "2009-07-16T16:22:26Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> True Blood. The most truly high-quality thing about it is the title credits, which are outstanding. The show itself is badly written, REALLY badly acted, and just generally not a quality product.
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> But I enjoy it anyway.

I came here to say this, so +1!

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/30 "2009-07-16T16:26:59Z")

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The movie “Volcano”. Yes, I know the science is iffy at best. There is overacting and poor acting all over the place. But there’s LAVA! In LOS ANGELES! Stuff blows up!!

Can’t help it, just love the movie. (And I don’t like “Dante’s Peak” nearly as well, either - and usually I’ll watch Pierce Brosnan over Tommy Lee Jones any day.)

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/31 "2009-07-16T17:16:28Z")

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**24**. You should enjoy it too, or MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!

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**Author:** ![Rattlehead02](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rattlehead02/32/3944_2.png) [@Rattlehead02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rattlehead02)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/32 "2009-07-16T18:00:01Z")

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24 isn’t good?? Blasphemer!!!

I didn’t miss a single episode of **The OC**. I miss Seth, the li’l wisenheimer. Oh, I also watched that shitty movie Seth (Adrian Brody) was in with Meg Ryan and found myself enjoying it.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/33 "2009-07-16T18:19:01Z")

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> [@TheMerchandise](#):
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> Also, almost anything by Mercedes Lackey.

Me too. Also Anne McCaffrey.

I used to wach MTV’s Undressed. Most people I’ve mentioned it to have never heard of it. It was a soap-opera-ish very cheesy show about young people getting laid. It was really bad. For some reason I really liked it. A while back I looked around online to see if I could find it on DVD, or even a torrent or something, but I can’t find it anywhere. ☹

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/34 "2009-07-16T18:21:20Z")

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I remember Undressed! It was cheesy, wasn’t it? I don’t know where you’d find it, though. I guess it’s really gone.

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**Author:** ![badbadrubberpiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@badbadrubberpiggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badbadrubberpiggy)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/35 "2009-07-16T18:26:52Z")

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> [@Arglefraster](#):
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> I used to wach MTV’s Undressed. Most people I’ve mentioned it to have never heard of it. It was a soap-opera-ish very cheesy show about young people getting laid. It was really bad. For some reason I really liked it. A while back I looked around online to see if I could find it on DVD, or even a torrent or something, but I can’t find it anywhere. ☹

I used to love this show, too. I’d basically forgotten about it, though!

Hershey’s chocolate - in fact, much of the over-milked, over-sugared, over-waxed fakey chocolate is tasty to me.

I do love really good, extra dark, _real_ chocolate - I just don’t think of the two as being at all related, so I don’t compare them.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/36 "2009-07-16T18:30:16Z")

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Anything written by James Rollins. His work is essentially the same basic bad adventure novel over and over again with a few name/character changes and a different setting. It’s poorly written crap, but I still read everything the man writes; it has the appeal of a really cheesy, midnight-on-cable TV ‘B’ movie.

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**Author:** ![TheMerchandise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b487fb/32.png) [@TheMerchandise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheMerchandise)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/37 "2009-07-16T18:34:23Z")

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> [@Arglefraster](#):
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> Me too. Also Anne McCaffrey.
> 
> I used to wach MTV’s Undressed. Most people I’ve mentioned it to have never heard of it. It was a soap-opera-ish very cheesy show about young people getting laid. It was really bad. For some reason I really liked it. A while back I looked around online to see if I could find it on DVD, or even a torrent or something, but I can’t find it anywhere. ☹

I used to watch this all the time! MTV would have endless episodes late at night and I would stay up until dawn watching.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/38 "2009-07-16T19:35:45Z")

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> [@TheMerchandise](#):
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> I used to watch this all the time! MTV would have endless episodes late at night and I would stay up until dawn watching.

Yep, it was oddly addicting. I may have to start hunting for it again. Hard to believe it’s not on the internet somewhere. _Everything’s_ on the internet.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/39 "2009-07-16T21:35:13Z")

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_Undressed_ was basically like someone turned a low budget porn into a tv show, and took out the actual sex scenes.

That being said, I used to watch the late night marathons as well. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mahna\_Mahna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mahna\_Mahna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahna_Mahna)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-books-movies-food-etc-you-like-even-though-you-know-its-really-not-very-good/503142/40 "2009-07-16T22:36:23Z")

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Oh, I’ve got a ton of these… I really have terrible taste, when I stop to think about it.

Silly historical romances: I love me a brooding handsome lord rescuing an attractive damsel from evil relatives/a life of poverty/an inappropriate suitor/a marriage of convenience/a murderous villain/whatever else have you.  
Not just once in a while, either… I probably polish off two to three of them a week, on top of the non-romances I read (yes, I read ridiculously fast). Thankfully, they’re cheap and plentiful in thrift shops and used bookstores.

Crap reality TV: I don’t specifically sit down to watch any particular show, but if I happen to be channel surfing and come across an episode of _America’s Next Top Model_ or _Ru Paul’s Drag Race_, I’ll happily watch (much to The Boy’s dismay, because he hates trash TV).  
Don’t even get me started on _So You Think You Can Dance_, either. That one I actually do specifically sit down to watch.

Grilled cheese: no, not the fancy kind. I’m taking cheap white bread and processed cheese slices, baby. I’m a big food snob most of the time, so normally I wouldn’t touch either ingredient with a ten foot pole. However, the only reason a grilled cheese exists is to be smothered in ketchup anyways, so the quality of the ingredients is a purely secondary concern. IMO, it’s just a ketchup delivery mechanism.

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