# Stuff everybody used to hate (and now love) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 23, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720 "2010-07-23T15:16:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/1 "2010-07-23T15:16:07Z")
Are there any movies, tv shows, songs that fit this scenario? 1. Most people originally thought it was terrible. 2. Some time later a few people started saying it was actually great (or decided it was so bad it was good). 3. Most people now think it’s great (or don’t realize the people from #2 were just being ironic). ---
**Author:** ![Monkey\_Chews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Monkey\_Chews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monkey_Chews)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/2 "2010-07-23T15:32:38Z")
Xanadu. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/3 "2010-07-23T15:45:51Z")
Jazz is often better appreciated with maturity. I didn’t get into it until my 40’s. Some of my friends were the same. We still listen to classic rock too. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/4 "2010-07-23T15:48:00Z")
> [@Monkey\_Chews](#): > > Xanadu. Great example. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/5 "2010-07-23T15:55:46Z")
Lots of people now own a copy of _Showgirls_ ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/6 "2010-07-23T15:58:32Z")
Herman Melville Vincent Van Gogh ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/7 "2010-07-23T16:01:45Z")
The Ramones ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/8 "2010-07-23T16:04:05Z")
Disco went from love to hate to love. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/9 "2010-07-23T16:17:30Z")
**Waiting for Godot** Someone once wrote about a general pattern for playwrights in America. Their first play flops to terrible reviews. Their second play gets terrible reviews, all noting it wasn’t as good as their first play. Their third play gets terrible reviews, since it’s no where near the quality of their excellent first play. Their forth play gets terrible reviews, comparing it unfavorably to their first play, not recognized as one of the major works of modern theater. ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/10 "2010-07-23T16:18:44Z")
The Rocky Horror Picture Show ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/11 "2010-07-23T16:19:20Z")
Jagermeister ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/12 "2010-07-23T16:35:45Z")
the Carpenters Abba the Bee Gees Michael Jackson Neil Diamond OK, technically you can’t say that “everybody” used to hate them, since they all went multi-platinum in their day, but I distinctly recall that it was not considered “cool” to admit liking any of these acts back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![Flip\_Pancake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@Flip\_Pancake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flip_Pancake)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/13 "2010-07-23T17:32:40Z")
David Bowie would probably fit. Had a lot of misses (‘Laughing Gnome’, anyone?) till he hit it big with ‘Space Oddity’. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/14 "2010-07-23T18:49:25Z")
I’d also add Pabst Blue Ribbon to the list. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/15 "2010-07-23T19:04:19Z")
Back in the late '60s/early '70s, the rock cognoscenti (headed by Jann Wenner and **Rolling Stone** ) actively loathed Led Zeppelin. Nowadays, they’re considered (by many who used to regularly pan their albums and concerts) respectable rock elder statesmen. Something similar, if more muted, happened to KISS during the mid-'90s, (coincidentally?) surrounding the reunion tour, complete with makeup, that featured the entire original lineup. But Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley and their insatiable lust for the filthy lucre have done their best to largely squander whatever critical cachet and all around goodwill they’d built up during the last 15 years. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/16 "2010-07-23T19:43:08Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > Disco went from love to hate to love. On a related note, the Village People’s “YMCA” went from being a massive disco hit in 1979 to being able to a clear a large crowded room in 1989 to being a fan favorite at sporting events in 1999. (I still don’t like it, though.) ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/17 "2010-07-23T19:55:32Z")
You never admitted to liking the Beach Boys in the '60’s if you wanted to maintain any “cool” cred. Now a lot of their songs are considered classics. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/18 "2010-07-23T19:55:59Z")
On a slightly different note, chicken wings used to be a throw-away, useless, disgusting even, part of the chicken. Not so much anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/19 "2010-07-23T19:57:04Z")
> [@The New and Improved Superman](#): > > the Carpenters > Abba > the Bee Gees > Michael Jackson > Neil Diamond > > OK, technically you can’t say that “everybody” used to hate them, since they all went multi-platinum in their day, but I distinctly recall that it was not considered “cool” to admit liking any of these acts back in the day. Is it cool to admit to liking any of them now? ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720/20 "2010-07-23T20:00:59Z")
> [@Flip\_Pancake](#): > > David Bowie would probably fit. Had a lot of misses (‘Laughing Gnome’, anyone?) till he hit it big with ‘Space Oddity’. I like “Laughing Gnome”. ☹ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-everybody-used-to-hate-and-now-love/547720.md?page=2)