# Stuff you think you'd really like if you could only give it the time it deserves

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [November 8, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135 "2005-11-08T23:40:32Z")
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### Author: ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/21 "2005-11-09T18:32:28Z")

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> [@BurnMeUp](#):
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> Don’t you live in Washington?

Yes. I have the ability to go play in person – there are several poker rooms within a 45-minute drive from me – but I’ve never felt like I had the time to invest. It’s the sitting-around-for-hours and learn-from-repeated-experience parts that have kept me away. As the thread topic says, I don’t (yet) feel I can give it the time it deserves.

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### Author: ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/22 "2005-11-09T18:39:28Z")

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> [@Interrobang!?](#):
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> Yes. I have the ability to go play in person – there are several poker rooms within a 45-minute drive from me – but I’ve never felt like I had the time to invest. It’s the sitting-around-for-hours and learn-from-repeated-experience parts that have kept me away. As the thread topic says, I don’t (yet) feel I can give it the time it deserves.

Actually I was going to say I know of a lot of friendly (or mostly anyway) home games that make it easier to learn is all.

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#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/23 "2005-11-09T18:42:20Z")

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> [@BurnMeUp](#):
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> Actually I was going to say I know of a lot of friendly (or mostly anyway) home games that make it easier to learn is all.

Ah. Even that, actually, is beyond my time investment at this point – new baby + existing weekly trivia night = no time to add another amusement. But if I decide the time exists, I’ll look you up.

Unhijacking the thread: another game I’d like to play a lot more often is **Civilization**. I’ve never actually finished a game, because I kind of suck at it and always feel guilty spending hours playing a computer game.

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### Author: ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/24 "2005-11-09T18:43:33Z")

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Falconry and bellydancing.

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### Author: ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/25 "2005-11-09T18:58:52Z")

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> [@romansperson](#):
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> Falconry and bellydancing.

At the same time?

**Shakespeare**. Even with the normal exposure through public schools and a good liberal arts college, it’s been far too scant to fully appreciate his craft. I’d love to sit down with someone who’s really well-versed in his works and then take on the classics.

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### Author: ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/26 "2005-11-09T19:10:37Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> At the same time?

Actually, I’d put ‘not at the same time’ in the post and then decided to delete it. Perhaps I could figure a way to work them both in … though falcon hunting season is September through March, so it could be a bit chilly …

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### Author: ![marque\_elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@marque\_elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marque_elf)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/27 "2005-11-09T19:14:11Z")

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Shakesspeare. I’ve put it off because my collected works is barely annotated and has very small print. I plan to by a better annotated collection and read it along with Isaac Asimov’s guide to Shakespeare. I think breaking into sections like histories, comedies might make the task seem less daunting.

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### Author: ![marque\_elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@marque\_elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marque_elf)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/28 "2005-11-09T19:27:47Z")

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> [@marque elf](#):
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> Shakesspeare. I’ve put it off because my collected works is barely annotated and has very small print. I plan to by a better annotated collection and read it along with Isaac Asimov’s guide to Shakespeare. I think breaking into sections like histories, comedies might make the task seem less daunting.

I also plan to learn how to spell and type someday too. :smack:

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#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/29 "2005-11-09T22:22:58Z")

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I set aside time to go through all of Shakespeare a few years ago, and it’s worth it, really. Even the “lesser” works like _Coriolanus_ and _Troilus and Cressida_ have things to recommend them.

(I didn’t get through _Rape of Lucrece._)

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#### Post date: [November 9, 2005, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/30 "2005-11-09T22:44:19Z")

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Golf.

I’ve played pitch n’ putt a couple of times, and lots of miniature golf and golf video games and I enjoy all of them.

In 5 or 10 years, when my youngest son is off on his own and I’ve got more free personal time (and money), I hope to start playing actual courses and getting into it. It just seems like something I’d really enjoy, and might not even be half bad at.

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### Author: ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/31 "2005-11-10T01:49:50Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I set aside time to go through all of Shakespeare a few years ago

Of course, when I posted this, I forgot to include the actual point of why I was replying: “…And yes, it took a few months, so I understand the time commitment.” Which was the whole reason for the thread in the first place.

:smack:

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#### Post date: [November 10, 2005, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/32 "2005-11-10T04:00:57Z")

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> [@Interrobang!?](#):
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> Another one that occurred to me this morning: poker. Specifically, Texas Hold’em.

You know you could come play on-line with a bunch of [Dopers](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=338048&page=1&pp=50), don’t you? We’re a forgiving bunch, we don’t cost much, and we’d love to have you join us. I can’t promise you’d learn a lot about the game, since the play tends a bit towards the … (what adjective to choose?? flamboyant? reckless? random? eccentric?) … but it’s really a lot of fun! Email me if you want to get in on it! This week… next week… next month… the door’s always open!

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#### Post date: [November 10, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/33 "2005-11-10T04:20:37Z")

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[ul]  
[li]Learn an amount of Japanese that is actually useful. Right now I can ask for way to the post office, but probably I won’t understand the answer.[/li][li]Read more mythology books. I even have some here that I haven’t read yet.[/li][li]Write some software that is complete enough for real use, not only “prototypes” of questionable quality [/li][/ul]

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#### Post date: [November 11, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/34 "2005-11-11T18:36:04Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Oh, and I keep meaning to dip a bit more deeply into Proust, Conrad, Faulkner, Melville, Homer, Zola, Balzac, Tolstoy, and Dotoevsky. Have only read one title per. Some day. . . .

So… Proust in his first book wrote about?

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#### Post date: [November 11, 2005, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stuff-you-think-youd-really-like-if-you-could-only-give-it-the-time-it-deserves/330135/35 "2005-11-11T23:48:06Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Even the “lesser” works like Coriolanus and Troilus and Cressida have things to recommend them.

The best Shakespeare production I’ve ever seen was _Troilus and Cressida_ at the Swan Theatre in Stratford, back in 1990 or so. Ralph Fiennes played Troilus, pre-_Schindler’s List_. The look of the production borrowed WWII motifs. So I’ve got a soft spot for this play, minor or no. (I’m also a _Cymbeline_ fan.)

But I really bumped this to add another comic strip: _Krazy Kat_. From what I’ve read, this’ll need some time for me to adjust to, and then I expect to like it. And I want to start at the beginning, and appreciate it in context, and hell, who’s got time for that? Not me, that’s who.

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Opera.  
Music–I mean how to play an instrument of some kind or other.  
modern art (I mean contemporary, not Picasso et al), so maybe I mean post-modern art(?).

_The Simarillion_ by Tolkien. I love the LOTR, but care almost nothing for the “back legend”. I’m sure there is something there, but…  
Romance poets–I mean really study them and know their frames of reference etc.

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Fly fishing.

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Shakespeare  
Dr. Who  
Go (Japanese checkers, not the movie)  
The ancient classics in Greek and Latin  
Computer programming and white hat hacking

I’ve dreamed about getting into all the above at one time or another. Sadly, I already have my passions which are too entrenced to give up just for the sake of new experiences. At least I know what to pick up in my next life. 🙂

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