# Stunning, yet someone actually posted this. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 27, 2002, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stunning-yet-someone-actually-posted-this/134052 "2002-10-27T01:44:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stunning-yet-someone-actually-posted-this/134052/41 "2002-10-29T15:42:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*Eid: > > Okay. Now explain why the Bible ordered the Israelites to slaughter _every single person_ who was residing in the land they were commanded to occupy just because those folks just happened to be living there. > > Explain why the Bible loves a woman who’s defending her husband’s life that, if she happens to hit the attacker’s testicles, she’s to be executed. > > Need I go on? \*\* Eh? Whats your point. I’m not defending Christianity. Merely pointing out the violent, murderous religion than Islam is. To a far greater degree than Christianity. And you made some statement about Christians starting the Crusades? So what, Islam has had plenty of pogroms of its own. If you can list the passages where _God_ instructs Christians to rob, kill, rape and torture non-believers please do so. I gaurentee the number of passages in the Qu’ran will far out number them. And I mean passages where GOD specifically instructs Christians… because in the Qu’ran, every instruction to kill comes directly from Allah. ---
**Author:** ![racekarl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@racekarl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racekarl)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stunning-yet-someone-actually-posted-this/134052/42 "2002-10-29T15:42:19Z")
It seems that this thread has drifted far afield from the OP, which looks to me a lot like: “I have a visceral reaction to ElJeffe’s posts, but since I have no actual way to rebutt his statements (many of which were clearly marked as opinion or conjecture), I’ll just post some rantings about him in the pit” 😕 Blowhard, heal thyself ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stunning-yet-someone-actually-posted-this/134052/43 "2002-10-29T16:04:56Z")
december at the best of his worst: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2442242&highlight=tourism#post2442242](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2442242&highlight=tourism#post2442242). Bear in mind that the very end of the thread got lost in the ether when the board burped. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stunning-yet-someone-actually-posted-this/134052/44 "2002-10-29T16:26:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eidolon909 \* > **And Keep in mind that the Qu’Ran is not open to interpretation like the Bible.** I know several Christian Fundamentalists who would disagree with the notion that the Bible is open to interpretation. > [@](#): > > \*\*XCVIII/6: Lo! those who disbelieve, among the people of the Scripture and idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. > > LXIX/30-37: (It will be said)Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat. > > XLIV/43-50: LO! the tree of Zaqqum (The tree that grows in the heart of hell bearing fruits like devil’s heads) - the food of the sinner. Like molten brass, it seetheth in their bellies as the seething of boiling water. (And it will be said): Take him and drag him to the midst of hell, then pour upon his head the torment of boiling water. Saying: TASTE! LO! thou wast forsooth the mighty, the noble! Lo! this is that whereof ye used to doubt. > > XXII/19-22: “These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concering their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling fluid will be poured down their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning.” > > LXXVI/4: “Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers manacles and carcans and a raging fire.”\*\* How do any of these passages from the Qu’Ran differ from the Christian assertion that non-Christians are going to burn in the fires of hell for all eternity? > [@](#): > > **VIII/65: "O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred stedfast they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence."** Psalm 53:1: “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’ They are corrupt, and their ways are vile; there is no one who does good.” ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stunning-yet-someone-actually-posted-this/134052/45 "2002-10-29T17:12:28Z")
Selectively quoting passages is a wonderful tactic when grinding an axe. Simply ignore all the stuff in the Qu’Ran that disagrees with the point you’re trying to force. ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stunning-yet-someone-actually-posted-this/134052/46 "2002-10-29T17:25:12Z")
The original assertion by **ElJeffe** was that the laws of the US are derived from a uniquely Judeo-Christian tradition, specifically the Ten Commandments. This is immediately questionable, since the only commonality is in the prohibitions against killing and stealing (which are state crimes, not federal). ElJeffe’s implication is that JC-based societies are the only ones which prohibit murder and stealing and uses the allegedly greater violence of Islamic society to prove this point. He’s grasping at straws if you ask me. (This post also included in the accompanying GD thread\_ ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stunning-yet-someone-actually-posted-this/134052/47 "2002-10-29T20:56:03Z")
racekarl: Appreciate the translation there. It seems that I lost my English to Absolute Moronic Twit dictionary. I trust you did the translation on the fly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stunning-yet-someone-actually-posted-this/134052.md?page=2)