Stupendous Stupidity in Science Fiction (open spoilers)

I think you’re dead on. Heck, even a wet navy boat that’s “dead in the water” isn’t stationary, it just can’t move under its own momentum. Serenity was probably still moving at the same speed, but they couldn’t change course any more. And when the part blew, they were making a big arc off the regular space lanes and into empty space. With out the ability to change direction, they’d just sail on out of the solar system, forever.

The “dead in the water” comment made me believe they had FTL, but if it were a large solar system, I could go with your idea.

I did like the rockets shutting off upon leaving a planet’s atmosphere.

I always assumed that the gravity got all wonky as a side effect of the meteor re-entering normal space from whatever wormhole it used to reach our solar system from the other side of the galaxy. Pehaps I was over-thinking thigs.

I’m pretty sure that The World of Star Trek by David Gerrold referenced it, so it makes sense that you are correctly remembering it from a Trek guide. (I have never seen a guide, nor did I even know that they were published until very recently.) The only other possible book is Meaning in Star Trek. Can anybody provide a definite answer?

Now I’m wondering whether an early script may still exist. Or, if it never made it to script, a story outline. And I wonder, just what makes an element of Trek canonical?

The romance was supposed to be with Kirk. Or Kirk at least showed some initial interest in her. (Big surprise, either way! :p) This would have left McCoy seeing Kirk in a very different light, as perhaps a future son-in-law.
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Home is the mothership, they have holodecks.

From a footnote in The World of Star Trek by David Gerrold:

A daughter implies a divorced McCoy, but doesn’t require it. I wouldn’t call it canon since it was never filmed.

I always thought of it as a super-effective digestive enzyme, not an actual acid per se. Think about it, in the first movie, the alien grows from a gleam in a facehuggers light-sensing organ to a 12-feet-tall toothy Freudian nightmare with no mention of how it acquired enough nutrition to gain all of that body mass. Obviously it must be capable of digesting anything and everything that crosses its path, animal, vegetable, or mineral base notwithstanding.

Re-watched a bit of *Firefly *tonight, which sent up an old cliché that is oh so common, yet oh so bloody stupid. I wonder how it got past its first audience, really.

Scene : plane/helicopter/starship is being chased. Hotshot pilot figures a surefire way of losing his pursuers : flying like a maniac in a canyon ! Surely the mooks will crash into the walls instead of… following at even faster speed from high above the canyon. And dropping bombs on the canyon’s walls. Duh.

Ah, I read the second part of your post first and thought you were referencing Independence Day.

That scene was actually more of a smart thing than a stupid thing. Wash tried to outfly their persuers in the only way he could think of, but he just failed to consider that the other guys wouldn’t have to go into the canyon to chase him. Once he figured that out, then he changed his plan to something more effective.

Yes, I know.
What I mean is that, in every other spi-fi/airplane flick out there, the pursuer will follow into the canyon, blindly and stupidly. And crash into the wall, when flying overhead is a really obvious, almost instinctive counter to the canyon “tactic”.

I suppose diving into a canyon makes some sense when you’re trying to shake some kind of long range threat, like a radar, or even a missile. But not someone right on your six who can *see *you.

Started re-reading the book this morning, planning to just read a couple of chapters but found myself half done before I realized it. Forgot how good Heilein is.

In one section, it’s said that over 80% are citizens on the colony Iskander while only 3% are citizens on some Terran nations.

Here’s my question: did they reference the old Bones nickname, or did they reintroduce the nickname with the new explanation? I haven’t seen the movie since it was in the theater, but it’s my recollection that they just made the passing “Bones” reference–I don’t think Kirk or anyone else referred to McCoy as Bones after that.

There’s a difference between those who chose to leave and those who were otherwise disqualified through no lack of effort on their own part, however, so it depends what one means by “washed out.” The former would end up as you describe; the latter would be reassigned to something that better fits their talents and competencies, as long as they were willing to continue.

There is no FTL in the *Firefly *universe. The premise is that it’s all one big solar system, with a variety of planets and moons that have been terraformed into habitability.

McCoy’s nickname “Bones” a play on SawBones, an old sailing ship’s doctor who could only treat wounds by cutting off the limb was used in a TOS episode. In Piece of the Action when Kirk is really hamming up the gangster talk and waving the tommy gun around he says to McCoy something like “knock it off Sawbones” verifing the true nature of the nickname.

It’s not how they treated the wound, it was the only way to cure gangrene without antibiotics.
Admittedly, wounds from huge splinters broken by cannon fire often necessitated amputation.
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No, all service jobs are dangerous, or at least potentially dangerous. Maybe not equally dangerous, but they’re not just luck of the draw whether you get a safe desk job or field testing survival equipment on Titan.

From Fleet Sergeant Ho, the legless recruiter:

“So for those who insist on serving their term - but haven’t got what we want and must have - we’ve had to think up a whole list of dirty, nasty, dangerous jobs that will either run 'em home with their tails between their legs and their terms uncompleted…or at least make them remember for the rest of their lives that their citizenship is valuable to them because they’ve paid a high price for it.”

“A term of service isn’t a kiddie camp; it’s either real military service, rough and dangerous even in peacetime…or a most unreasonable facsimile thereof. Not a vacation. Not a romantic adventure. Well?”

From Major Reid, the OCS H&MP instructor: (my bolding)

“And you have forgotten that in peacetime most veterans come from non-combatant auxiliary services and have not been subject to the full rigors of military discipline; they have merely been harried, overworked, and endangered - yet their votes count.”

And remember, the “counting fuzz on a caterpillar by touch” was an example given by a civilian doctor who wasn’t in the service - he’s shocked & offended when Johnny even suggests it.

Sky Marshal was a military position - I assumed it was a position you got while you were still in the military, not something you retired then applied for.

I don’t think anyone was confused about this. The debate is over the “Bones” reference in the 2009 relaunch movie.

Yes I know, I just wondered if JJ knew the true meaning of the nickname or did he just pull an explanation out of thin air.

I agree! Those that can demonstrate their ability to tune engines, weld metal, wire houses for electricity etc. should get to vote. Office drones and over-educated PH.D. dumbasses? No way. they don’t know the real world so they should be excluded from voting.

Where does an office drone with a B.A. who can build you a computer or do minor toilet repairs fall?