# Stupid bathroom incident of the day. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 16, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930 "2016-05-16T19:41:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/81 "2016-05-27T02:42:51Z")
A guy in Utah was punched by another guy for taking his five-year-old daughter into the men’s room. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/82 "2016-05-27T05:21:08Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > If this diatribe had been directed at any other group, it would be roundly condemned on this board as offensive, pandering to stereotypes, and probably also as hate speech. By someone else, knowing you. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/83 "2016-05-28T09:33:54Z")
> [@Valgard](#): > > Which really would be amusing since one of the few positions Trump has taken that I agree with is that transgender folks can use the bathroom appropriate to their gender identity (or at least the only public comment of his I’m aware of on the subject is that Caitlyn Jenner is welcome to use the ladies’ room at the Trump Hotel, which she did in fact do). You can never really tell what Trump’s actual position is now, or may be tomorrow. I know and you know he’s hardly an ideologue, he would need to have actual ideas first. He’s the definition of an unprincipled political whore. But, he’s got the R next to his name, indicating that retards should vote for him. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/84 "2016-05-28T09:44:57Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > If this diatribe had been directed at any other group, it would be roundly condemned on this board as offensive, pandering to stereotypes, and probably also as hate speech. Quite deliberately offensive, and intended to stereotype, and intended to express my venom at the ignorant rubes. If you\* are afraid of actual IRL transgender rape goblins, you’re a fucking moron and this is a small space on the internet where I can highlight that fact. Brings me a little catharsis. I have to deal with fuckwits like that in real life in a business setting and cannot tell them to piss off without potentially losing a job over it. Here, there’s no need to be civil towards the modern day gestapo. No amount of education will cure them of their irrational hatred of people who have done them zero harm and have essentially no history of harming or oppressing anyone, no amount of reasoning would move them into a position of sanity. So I call them fucking morons and call them out on their bigotry. If that’s offensive, then it’s working as intended. \*-any person reading my posts ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/85 "2016-05-28T21:15:34Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > That’s certainly my concern. This will bring out the most regressive voters in droves. Maybe we should start a rumor that there will be same sex voting booths. That might keep them home. 😃 Worse… they’re not segregated! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/86 "2016-06-09T18:54:42Z")
[Somebody set off a bomb in the ladies’ room at a Target in Evanston, Illinois. Police are investigating whether it’s related to Target’s transgender welcome policy.](http://wgntv.com/2016/06/08/small-explosion-reported-in-bathroom-of-evanston-target/) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/87 "2016-06-09T20:50:21Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Somebody set off a bomb in the ladies’ room at a Target in Evanston, Illinois. Police are investigating whether it’s related to Target’s transgender welcome policy.](http://wgntv.com/2016/06/08/small-explosion-reported-in-bathroom-of-evanston-target/) While it’s obviously not certain, it seems likely to be related. Of course they risked harming some of the very people they think they’re protecting, but we can’t assume a lot of intelligence or thoughtfulness is involved. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/88 "2016-06-09T22:55:19Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Shouldn’t be that bad. I’m sure the camps will have barracks and a mess hall. And they’ll be fabulous, darling! ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/89 "2016-06-10T13:39:28Z")
> [@Zyanthia](#): > > This is just sad ☹ > > > [@](#): > > > > Send Target a message — don’t shop where women and children’s emotional and physical safety and privacy are under assault,” Minnesota chair of the Child Protection League Julie Quist said. > > Why are they trying to make so many homeless people? Julie Quist said that? As a Minnesotan, I am fully aware of how fucked up the [Quist family](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Quist) is. (Link goes to Wikipedia page of her RWNJ husband, Allen Quist, who, among other things, believes that humans and dinosaurs co-existed into the 12th century. Oh, and he hates gays.) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/90 "2016-06-10T14:31:11Z")
> [@Spiff](#): > > Julie Quist said that? > > As a Minnesotan, I am fully aware of how fucked up the [Quist family](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Quist) is. > > (Link goes to Wikipedia page of her RWNJ husband, Allen Quist, who, among other things, believes that humans and dinosaurs co-existed into the 12th century. Oh, and he hates gays.) Allen Quist is responsible for this nonsense: [http://cmods.org/](http://cmods.org/) > [@](#): > > Curriculum Modules for Teachers > CMods provides accurate and exciting new information for teachers and other interested persons. This information is generally unavailable in school textbooks because it contradicts the worldviews of the education establishment. The information is presented in the form of curriculum modules that may be downloaded or used in other ways by teachers, parents or anyone else, free of charge. The mods are designed to supplement and/or correct current textbooks. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/91 "2016-07-12T18:33:09Z")
A bit of good news from the homefront; the group behind an anti-transgender referendum here in Washington [has failed to collect the approx. 250,000 petition signatures they needed to get the initiative on the November ballot.](http://www.theolympian.com/news/politics-government/article88348137.html) It really boggles the mind that the people behind this campaign thought that one of the most trans-friendly states in the Union (the nondiscrimination law has actually been on the books for _ten years now_, a state where the largest city’s mayor is a married gay man, and where the locals generally have an attitude of minding their own business and not bothering others if they aren’t bothering you, would go in for their hateful nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/92 "2016-07-14T15:30:00Z")
[Transgender woman arrested in voyeurism incident at Target](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/13/transgender-woman-arrested-in-voyeurism-incident-at-idaho-target.html) Seems to be a good candidate for a stupid bathroom incident. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/93 "2016-07-14T15:38:19Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > [Transgender woman arrested in voyeurism incident at Target](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/13/transgender-woman-arrested-in-voyeurism-incident-at-idaho-target.html) > > Seems to be a good candidate for a stupid bathroom incident. Changing room, not bathroom, but I get your point. At the same time, there’s something revelatory about this. It turns out, and I hope you’re sitting down for this, **that transgender people can still be arrested for inappropriate activity in gendered locations**. Holy shit, dude! It turns out that we don’t need additional laws after all! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/94 "2016-07-14T15:41:49Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Changing room, not bathroom, but I get your point. > > At the same time, there’s something revelatory about this. It turns out, and I hope you’re sitting down for this, **that transgender people can still be arrested for inappropriate activity in gendered locations**. Holy shit, dude! It turns out that we don’t need additional laws after all! Yeah, that’s weird. Why didn’t she just say “I’m transgendered, I’m allowed to take photos of people in changing rooms without their consent!” :rolleyes:🙂 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/95 "2016-07-14T15:47:03Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Yeah, that’s weird. Why didn’t she just say “I’m transgendered, I’m allowed to take photos of people in changing rooms without their consent!” :rolleyes:🙂 It’s quite enough that the bathroom incident is stupid. Your amplification is not required. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/96 "2016-07-14T15:55:42Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Yeah, that’s weird. Why didn’t she just say “I’m transgendered, I’m allowed to take photos of people in changing rooms without their consent!” :rolleyes:🙂 Your levels of sarcasm are either too much for me or really dumb, I can’t figure out which :). ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/97 "2016-07-14T16:38:56Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Changing room, not bathroom, but I get your point. > > At the same time, there’s something revelatory about this. It turns out, and I hope you’re sitting down for this, **that transgender people can still be arrested for inappropriate activity in gendered locations**. Holy shit, dude! It turns out that we don’t need additional laws after all! That’s not what anti-transgender people are going to think, though. They’re going to point at Target’s trans-friendly policies and say “see what happens when we treat the transgenders like people?!” Even the linked news article suggests that the incident was a consequence of Target’s new policy. Though it probably was. If the suspect actually committed the crime, they’re probably a cis male who claimed to be trans in a moronic attempt to get out of trouble. Or some asshole trying to show everyone why Target’s policy is a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/98 "2016-07-14T16:41:46Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > That’s not what anti-transgender people are going to think, though. They’re going to point at Target’s trans-friendly policies and say “see what happens when we treat the transgenders like people?!” Even the linked news article suggests that the incident was a consequence of Target’s new policy. > > Though it probably was. If the suspect actually committed the crime, they’re probably a cis male who claimed to be trans in a moronic attempt to get out of trouble. Or some asshole trying to show everyone why Target’s policy is a bad idea. The article said he already identified as a female including a female version of his birth name. Though I have no idea how that was determined. Unless he has ID in that name. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/99 "2016-07-14T16:51:13Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > That’s not what anti-transgender people are going to think, though. They’re going to point at Target’s trans-friendly policies and say “see what happens when we treat the transgenders like people?!” Even the linked news article suggests that the incident was a consequence of Target’s new policy. > > Though it probably was. If the suspect actually committed the crime, they’re probably a cis male who claimed to be trans in a moronic attempt to get out of trouble. Or some asshole trying to show everyone why Target’s policy is a bad idea. There are several things we don’t know: 1. Is this person sincerely trans, or is this person trying to find a loophole in law/policy? 2. Did this person actually engage in illegal behavior? (It’s been alleged, but we don’t know all the facts). Here’s what we do know: 3) Target’s trans-inclusive policy presented no impediment to arresting someone for alleged inappropriate behavior. For 1 and 2, we should wait to get the facts. For 3, we already see confirmation that trans-friendly policies don’t leave women unprotected from pervs. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930/100 "2016-07-14T16:51:15Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Yeah, that’s weird. Why didn’t she just say “I’m transgendered, I’m allowed to take photos of people in changing rooms without their consent!” :rolleyes:🙂 > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Your levels of sarcasm are either too much for me or really dumb, I can’t figure out which :). Pretty sure that was sarcasm, in that that’s exactly what the anti-trans people think, or at least _pretend_ to think, is what happens when transgender bathroom rights are acknowledged; men are going to hang out in ladies’ rooms for the sole purpose of committing perversions, will tell any authority figure who questions them that “I identify as a woman right now so I have a right to be here”, and said authorities will shrug helplessly and allow the perversions to continue. I.e. the “I’d have done that all the time when I was in high school!” assertation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-bathroom-incident-of-the-day/754930.md?page=6)