# Stupid concert goers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884 "2011-07-13T16:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/21 "2011-07-14T14:24:46Z")
> [@minlokwat](#): > > BUT, I still somewhat doubt that there remain that many devoted Steely Dan fans who came in and scooped up all of the good seats during the pre-sale. Anytime I’ve gotten fantastic seats they have always been freebies from the record company/band/radio station. Concerts where I’ve sat refreshing a webpage until the moment I could purchase seats, they have been mediocre at best. Love Steely Dan.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/22 "2011-07-14T17:34:58Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Anytime I’ve gotten fantastic seats they have always been freebies from the record company/band/radio station. Concerts where I’ve sat refreshing a webpage until the moment I could purchase seats, they have been mediocre at best. > > Love Steely Dan.🆒 Me too. Wait. You can _BUY_ tickets to concerts? I thought all those people who could see the horn section had just won their tickets from a classier outfit than I did… ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/23 "2011-07-14T19:47:14Z")
> [@minlokwat](#): > > Alright dude, if you say so. I don’t go to that many concerts so it’s far from my area of expertise. > > I don’t recall seeing anything on the group’s site about a pre-sale when the tour was announced. I didn’t go to the venue’s web page and I guess I should have. For what it’s worth, the concert site does not go through Ticket Master. > > BUT, I still somewhat doubt that there remain that many devoted Steely Dan fans who came in and scooped up all of the good seats during the pre-sale. > > Then a quick internet search revealed that sites like Vivid and bargainseatsonline, have lots and lots of tickets to sell many of which appear better than the ones I have. “fan club members” my ass. I obviously can’t speak to that specific concert. I can tell you that I have 10th row center seats to Bob Dylan tonight and that I got to order my tickets three days before the mob because I got an email from [bobdylan.com](http://bobdylan.com) letting me know about the pre-sale. I am on the email list of all of my favorite artists, a few different ticket selling sites (like Ticketmaster) and of a bunch of different concert venues. I get two to three emails a week letting me know about pre-sale information. I am not saying that ticket scalping scum doesn’t exist but I can tell you that if you’re trying to buy tickets on the day of the regular sale, you’re doing it wrong. I have literally gone to hundreds of concerts over the last twenty-five years but then what the fuck do I know? I’m giving you golden advice here. Take it or leave it. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/24 "2011-07-14T19:57:33Z")
Perhaps if you asked for the face value they would sell. People sometimes think a bargain is a red flag for a rip off when it comes to internet sales. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/25 "2011-07-14T20:25:12Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Covered isn’t inherently better. Is it supposed to be a nice night? Besides, I like lawn seats. ¡Gracias, Señora! ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/26 "2011-07-14T20:33:00Z")
Paul McCartney is doing two shows at Wrigley Field in a few weeks. The first show sold out in minutes and then after the second show was added, it sold out fairly quickly as well. I got my tickets several days before the general public, and before the AMEX presale, through McCartney’s website. I couldn’t afford the best seats, but they were available. I was able to get seats in a lower-priced section, but they’re great seats and I didn’t have to fight the masses for them. ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/27 "2011-07-15T03:12:05Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I can tell you that I have 10th row center seats to Bob Dylan tonight and that I got to order my tickets three days before the mob So do tell. How was the show, how were your seats? I saw Dylan years (decades?) ago and the old man rocked the house. He’s as tempermental as any artist, how did things go? ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/28 "2011-07-15T03:36:34Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Cool. If you can find out the name of the great jazz instrumental that they open the show with, please come back and post it here, okay? > > Wait. Are you going to be attending the “Aja” concert, or the “Everybody’s Favorite Hits” concert? The one I’m talking about is the “Aja” concert. _Dizzy’s Bidness._ ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/29 "2011-07-15T03:48:42Z")
Thank you very much. Do you know if they’ve recorded that? I searched Youtube for the title, but all I came up with was Cannonball Adderly doing _Dizzy’s Business_ (a 1962 arrangement that was more reminiscent of MJQ - type stuff). ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/30 "2011-07-15T12:46:09Z")
> [@minlokwat](#): > > I thought measures had been put in place to reduce the role of the second-hand ticket sleaze-meisters but to that end, I call bullshit. I’m not sure what the cause of this is, but its everywhere I’ve ever been & seen music played. Even HS gyms always had parents in the front row with coats on seats saying they were ‘taken’. :rolleyes: Its not the performers. Its the ‘who you know’ scum at the venue or the ticket agencies. Personally, I’ve never been to anyones show where they weren’t so far away that it looked like they were in 1/125th scale. The only show where I made it to floor seats, it was at the absolute back of the floor and a squad of cheerleaders in front of us where taking turns getting on top of each others shoulders & blocking our view. Some performers do give random upgrades but the only performer I’ve ever seen do anything about it beyond this this was Katy Perry, who literally strapped herself to a movable elevator platform and played while being lifted to the back of the amphitheater by some sort of crane (probably at great personal risk to herself). But the ticket-scum knew & adapted: our seats were in the back upper-deck corners, where her crane couldn’t go. Still, it was nice that she at least tried. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/31 "2011-07-15T13:26:18Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > Well, darn, you folks are talking about odd behavior without lots of crazy. Sadly, I can’t help with the crazy. Sometimes our biker club gets a job doing security for concerts. We all look at as a moment to wear cool t-shirts and fondle our pepperspray. > > While there is some crazy at younger concerts, the ones we “protect” never have as much as someone lighting a cigarette inside. According to the 50+ guys, us kids don’t know how to have fun. Ever worked at Altamont? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/32 "2011-07-15T18:56:29Z")
> [@minlokwat](#): > > So do tell. How was the show, how were your seats? > > I saw Dylan years (decades?) ago and the old man rocked the house. > > He’s as tempermental as any artist, how did things go? Lots of fun. I’ve seen him around fifteen times since the late 80’s and it can be hit or miss. He was really good this time. Hard to believe that he’s 70 years old. He played guitar, keyboard and harmonica on various songs which included a lot of old favorites. I really like his latest band with Charlie Sexton on lead guitar. The seats were in the 10th row but more off to the side than in the center. It was on the good side though with a view straight to The Man. You should go see him again…but join his email list first! ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/33 "2011-07-16T17:29:15Z")
> [@Grapefruit](#): > > Maybe they’re weary about buying from a crazy person. I wouldn’t think shopping online would be that tiring! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mariposalabrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@mariposalabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mariposalabrown)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/34 "2011-07-16T19:38:45Z")
Last year I saw so many shows at Red Rocks, got fed up with high school girls on drugs crying in the bathroom. Stopped seeing electronic music there, that fixed that problem! ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/35 "2011-07-16T19:58:41Z")
Sometimes venues will release tickets on the day of the show. I don’t know the logistics of it, but I think some brokers/block holders are able to return unsold tickets. I just got 13th row for Eddie Izzard tonight at face value (and no service charges at the Box Office!) If I can’t get decent seats from the initial sales, I can usually get a good ticket on eBay or Craigslist. A final option is just to go down to the venue right before the show; there always seem to be tickets available on the street. The prices drop dramatically once showtime rolls around. ---
**Author:** ![dada2fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@dada2fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dada2fish)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/36 "2011-07-17T04:53:13Z")
Ok, please don’t laugh, but I bought tickets for the Wiggles (I said don’t laugh! I have a little boy) the day of the presale, three days before they were for sale to the general public. I didn’t want tickets for the main floor because my son is still a bit young and I felt he might be uncomfortable there. I hoped to get the first row in the lower risers and since I had the presale/ fan club head start, I thought it’d be no problem getting what I wanted. Precisely at 10am, sale time I clicked and bought and ended up 10 rows back in the lower risers. This is a pretty big venue and I find it hard to believe that all of main floor as well as the first 10 rows were bought up during the presale in a matter of seconds. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884/37 "2011-07-17T07:15:42Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > I wouldn’t think shopping online would be that tiring! 😃 Come on. Don’t make fun of people with a speech impediment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-concert-goers/588884.md?page=1)