Not sure what those cites are supposed to prove. The first establishes that Panzer can mean “tank” or “armor” and includes a link to Panzerfaust where it clearly states it can mean “armor fist” or “tank fist” (not “armored fist”).
The second is a German language pamphlet, which hardly settles the question of translation (although it does include a graphic of a fist smashing a tank, so…).
I’ve been writing translations professionally since 1983. “Tank fist” is a shitty translation produced by someone who failed to grasp the dual meaning behind the German word “Panzer.”
The manual clearly shows an ARMORED fist smashing a tank. Why the feck would anyone insist on calling it a “tank” fist? Duh!
It’s a fist for smashing tanks. Really “armored fist” doesn’t particularly describe the function of the thing very well; it’s an anti-tank weapon, which “tank fist” gets across pretty clearly.
My real point, though, is that your cites are unconvincing. I have no particular investment in this.
If you absolutely want to rely on the english version of Wikipedia, why don’t you link to the term itself (Panzerfaust)? According to it, both terms (tank-fist and armor-fist) would be literal translations of the word.
The other link, while interesting, are simply german fliers about the weapon. Which don’t help when you try to translate the word into english. And which use the direct synonym Panzer = Tank of the “tank-fist” translation:
[QUOTE=German flier]
Du kannst mit ihr jenden Panzer b is auf Entfernungen von 80 m abschiessen
[/quote]
[QUOTE=My translation]
With it [(the Panzerfaust)] you can shoot tanks at distances of up to 80 m
[/quote]
Because the german language is quite literal in many ways:
Flugzeug=Plane. The word is formed by two parts which, literally, mean “Thing that flies”
Handschuh=Gloves. The word is formed by two parts which, literally, mean “Shoe for the hands”
So, if you want to have a literal translation, the one that fits better is “tank fist”, not “armored fist”. It describes the weapon’s main use; with it the “wearer” has a "fist to smash “tanks”.
The best translation though? “Bazooka”.
I’ll second this one. A few months ago, a co-worker of mine was murdered at her home, in front of her kids, but her estranged husband, who then killed himself. Simply hearing about that shook up everyone here at the office, and I was in shock over it for a good couple of weeks. I can only imagine getting the news by having a couple of detectives coming up to me at work or home flashing badges and asking me for as many details as I knew about her and/or anyone who might want to see her dead. Unless you are a sociopath (and therefore, a really good suspect for the crime) no one is going to simply go about their business while answering those kinds of questions under those circumstances.
On that note (pun intended) consider The Blues Brothers. Here we have a band that has not performed together for 3 years. Yet they pick up right where they left off making good music, without doing any practice or rehearsals first. Even worse, they can do good renditions of songs like* Rawhide* and Stand By Your Man when they had never performed either of those songs together as a group. Yet they nailed them both on the first try? Plus the many other C&W songs it was implied they did during the cut-scene? Please.
Well five of them had been working as Murph and The MagicTones with that swell regular gig at the Armada Room, so they might have worked out “Stand By Your Man” then. Actually, since the MagicTones consisted of the entire rhythm section and one horn, and they had been playing together the whole time, having other pro musicians who had worked with them for years click right in is not as suspicious as you would think.
Are you actually complaining that The Blues Brothers is unrealistic?
As a veteran of bar bands and having attended more a few open jam nights I can testify that it isn’t that remarkable. Almost anyone who’s played any length of time in motel lounges, bars, Elks lodges and the like will have a pretty good arsenal of country and rock standards, as well as the ability to follow along.
…said the internet psychiatrist.
Likewise:
Deadly diseases that get cured with a vaccine – by vaccinating the sick person!
Diseases or poisons that need to be cured or antidoted (to coin a term) within some timeline, and salvation arrives just in the nick of time, averting certain death by mere minutes … with NO side effects or complications. In no time, they’re as good as new!
Leo Fender (or someone) played bass that way, which is why many Fender basses were sold with a finger rest below the strings rather than the far more sensible thumb rest above it. Here’s a pic:
Ignore the blogging idiot’s explanation, though, because these basses predated thumb-n-snap playing styles. Well, maybe his text applies to instruments made in the 70’s or later, but it wouldn’t apply to a '59 Precision bass, where it would be typical.
I’ve never seen a musician of note play an electric guitar that way, though.
I’ll try to keep that in mind next time I go hunting or to a firing range.
Right, though they generally aren’t such snappy new arrangements. But yes, even fairly ordinary local musicians can pull off a surprisingly large number of standards, cold like that, as long as it’s the “typical” arrangements. I know (and have even got to play with) some top-flight sidemen and it’s really impressive what they can do without rehearsals.
In general, if the drummer and bass player have it together and the vocalist knows the words, everyone else can follow along pretty easily. Of course, everyone in the horn section needs to agree whose cover they’re covering.
All I can say is that from all the musicians I know, they hate it when they don’t get to practice regularly, especially before big gigs. Because they know if they don’t, they will never sound as good as they would if they did.
Plus they were on a mission from God.
I’ve never seen anyone in a TV show or movie use a mouse with a computer, and they use the keyboard impossibly fast.
Except the noun “Panzer” itself does not mean tank per se - it’s an abbreviation* of Panzerkampfwagen, literally “armoured combat vehicle” (or, as a friend once joked, “battle wagon” or “war chariot”, both of which are pretty metäl indeed). The “tank” bit would be “kampfwagen”.
In that sense, “Panzer” is very much akin to American soldiers requesting “armor support” on the radio to call in the big fuck-off tanks.
I believe standard procedure is to jump up 400 feet into the air then scatter yourself over a large area.
Joke aside : break your leg, before turning you into chunky salsa. The charge propelling the mine upwards was no firecracker since it needed to propel 8 pounds of mine ~4 feet up, and the body of the mine itself was all metal.
You’re right about the origin of the word “Panzer”. But by the time the Panzerfaust was created (according to the german Wikipedia, around 1942), the term had become synonym to tank and had even replaced it (again, according to the german Wikipedia).
You’d be hard pressed to find germans who didn’t understand and prefer the term “Panzer” to designate a tank by now.
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I’ve always wondered about Nero Wolfe’s hired detective, Saul Panzer. Would anyone in the 1930s be named “Panzer?”
(But…if he were…and if I wanted a private eye…I’d sure hire him!)
Of course! When was the last time you visited someone at a government office without having to wait in a huge line? Totally pulled me out of the film.