# Stupid Fox network and Wonderfalls **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 2, 2004, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880 "2004-04-02T08:00:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![International\_Playboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/48db29/32.png) [@International\_Playboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/International_Playboy)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/21 "2004-04-04T04:37:17Z")
> [@Santos L Halper](#): > > Well, they sure gave it a chance on the new night, [didn’t they](http://www.timminear.net/archives/press/000064.html)? ☹ I’m in the middle of watching my tape of last Thursday’s show when I checked my email and saw this message. What timing. I think Fox works overtime to try to suck. Except for the Sunday night lineup, Wonderfalls was their only other show I watched. And as for Sunday, I can do without Oliver Beene, Bernie Mac, and Malcom in the Middle. Well I guess I won’t have a taping conflict with Kingdom Hospital now. I sure hope they release all the episodes of Wonderfalls on DVD. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/22 "2004-04-04T04:51:37Z")
My heart is just breaking. Poor Tim Minear. ☹ He was so very excited about the show–as excited as Joss was for **Firefly**. TV really has become a wasteland. THere’s so much wonderful talent out there, and by wonderful talent, I mean Tim Minear, David Greenwalt (Jake 2.0 was killed early this season…) and all of the Mutant Enemy staff. And now all of their shows are killed, dead, and why? If I didn’t have **The Shield** to look forward to (Shawn Ryan is another ME alum), I’d probably cancel my cable subscription. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/23 "2004-04-04T05:16:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Whereas previously it was right after Joan of Arcadia, in which God despatches the main character to do weird tasks instead of talking animals. Tru Calling differs more from Wonderfalls than JoA does, I’m told. Once they get canceled due to the time-slot hopping, they can be set up with _Evening Edition_, in which a newspaper dispatches the main character to do weird tasks, _Quantum Leap_ in which a malfunctioning time machine dispatches the main character to do weird tasks, _Voyagers!_ in which a malfunctioning time machine dispatches the main characters to do weird tasks, _Sliders_ in which a malfunctioning dimension hopping machine dispatches characters to do weird tasks, and _Highway to Heaven_ I say it’s time for an entire channel devoted to [blank] dispatches the main character to help people. The Good Samaritan Channel perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/24 "2004-04-04T05:59:35Z")
> [@Number Six](#): > > I say it’s time for an entire channel devoted to [blank] dispatches the main character to help people. The Good Samaritan Channel perhaps? The “Hey! Do this!” Channel. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/25 "2004-04-04T06:05:31Z")
I just… I just don’t get it. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/26 "2004-04-04T06:11:18Z")
Dammit, dammit! ANGEL dying, ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT on the edge, and I can’t afford the new FREAKS AND GEEKS DVD. Life sucks TV-wise. I had just this week made this show a must-see. And poor Minear says the cancellation is effective immediately, so no Canadian housekeeper next week. Damn, I wanted to see how many references they could sneak in to the fact that they’re shot in Canada using so many Canadian actors–the Laura Secord box last week, for example, and the fact that you can play HITG! Canada version every week. Shit. Aside from that bitch recapper over at TWOP, yet another example of Let’s Let Somebody Who Hates the Show Write the Recap and Publicly Call for its Cancellation, nobody I know is happy about this. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/27 "2004-04-04T06:20:41Z")
Four damn episodes. Just sad. It should’ve been on cable, frankly - it was a little too smart and snarky for network TV. Looks like I’m down to the _Sopranos_, _Six Feet Under_, _Deadwood_, and ( if they ever get around to the second season ) _Dead Like Me_. Hmmm…all cable. What a surprise. Actually _Joan of Arcadia_ is okay, but I haven’t been following it regularly. - Tamerlane ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/28 "2004-04-04T06:22:38Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > Shit. Aside from that bitch recapper over at TWOP, yet another example of Let’s Let Somebody Who Hates the Show Write the Recap and Publicly Call for its Cancellation, nobody I know is happy about this. Er… You know that’s the point of TWOP, don’t you? They pick the shows they think they’ll hate the most, then see how it goes. I love the site, even when shows I like are victim. I love FOX, they give retarded monkeys the jobs they so desperately need. What do you bet they’ll put another shitty reality show in Wonderfalls place? Now I’m really bummed I didn’t tape the nun episode ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/29 "2004-04-04T07:55:27Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I love FOX, they give retarded monkeys the jobs they so desperately need. What do you bet they’ll put another shitty reality show in Wonderfalls place? Now I’m really bummed I didn’t tape the nun episode ☹ I started a [pit thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=249037) about this for anyone that may have stronger language to use towards FOX than otherwise might be allowed in CS. I believe somewhere in my incoherent ranting there’s mention of FOX’s love affair with Reality TV. **Tamerlane** : I’m sure you know this, but just in case: did you know that one of the same people that worked with Tim Minear on Wonderfalls was also on the creative team behind Dead Like Me (which I also happen to love). ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/30 "2004-04-04T08:20:35Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Now I’m really bummed I didn’t tape the nun episode ☹ I’ve got an AVI if you want it. (Hey - it’s not like Fox want to make money from the show, is it?) ---
**Author:** ![Catsmeow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Catsmeow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catsmeow)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/31 "2004-04-04T16:04:38Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > What do you bet they’ll put another shitty reality show in Wonderfalls place? Most likely it’ll be that crud “The Swan”. Sad. I’m so frustrated over this! I haven’t liked a Fox show in ages and here one comes that’s fun and snarky and all…and they give it 4 shows. Stupid stupid stupid. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/32 "2004-04-04T16:25:09Z")
Fox can’t abide having more than one decent live action show on their lineup, apparently. Everything they air that is any good besides 24 gets cancelled. Idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/33 "2004-04-04T16:27:12Z")
Are all the Fox execs 13 years old? They have all the patience of monkeys on crack. “NOWNOWNOWNOWNOW! WHAT, NO 25 RATING RIGHT AWAY? KILLYOU!!!” What happened to the folks who gave Cheers a chance? All retired or dead? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/34 "2004-04-04T17:08:26Z")
> [@Neidhart](#): > > Are all the Fox execs 13 years old? They have all the patience of monkeys on crack. Four shows isn’t long enough to prove anything unless the show really is awful. ---
**Author:** ![Wumpus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8c91f0/32.png) [@Wumpus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wumpus)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/35 "2004-04-04T17:48:35Z")
And the big fat geniuses in charge of the networks wonder why TV ratings are plummeting. :rolleyes: Look, it’s pretty simple. Nobody can watch a show if they don’t know when it’s on. And certainly nobody can watch a show if it’s cancelled before they get a chance to watch it. (“Hey, there’s a great new show on!” “Really? What’s it called?” “Never mind, they just cancelled it.”) ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/36 "2004-04-04T18:06:46Z")
> [@Mauvaise](#): > > **Tamerlane** : I’m sure you know this, but just in case: did you know that one of the same people that worked with Tim Minear on Wonderfalls was also on the creative team behind Dead Like Me (which I also happen to love). Yeah, I did. It showed :). They made a fine double-header in my time zone. _Wonderfalls_ on FOX at nine, then re-runs of _Dead Like Me_ on Showtime at ten. So much for that. Actually it would be nice if Showtime would consider picking up _Wonderfalls_, but I’m not going to hold my breath. - Tamerlane ---
**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/37 "2004-04-04T20:37:42Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Yeah, I did. It showed :). It did. In fact I didn’t know who was behind Wonderfalls until after I’d watched the Pilot. I remember thinking several times during it that it reminded me a lot of Dead Like Me. Imagine my surprise when I discovered why. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/38 "2004-04-04T23:32:33Z")
_sigh_ When the show first ran, I bet my friends that, since it was so good, it wouldn’t last six episodes. Fox beat me by 2. That takes the grand total of shows I now watch on Fox to… lessee… none. Zero. Zip. Nada. ---
**Author:** ![Magickly\_Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magickly\_Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magickly_Delicious)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/39 "2004-04-05T03:31:18Z")
Yeah, me too. I never watched Fox before, and if _Wonderfalls_ is really over, I have no reason to flip to that channel anymore. ---
**Author:** ![booklover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@booklover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/booklover)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880/40 "2004-04-05T13:54:53Z")
Okay, my Sunday TV Week (from the Washington Post) tells me that this week Wonderfalls is airing on Friday. So was last week just a temporary switch, or is the TV Week wrong? _grumble_ I need consistency, darn it! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-fox-network-and-wonderfalls/237880.md?page=3)