# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 102
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2021 "2013-04-23T18:31:16Z")
If he has a gun in his house, he may be half-way there. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2022 "2013-04-24T23:29:27Z")
Unlike Ca3799’s post above, I think this one is serious and not satire. [Missouri Republicans vote to stop issuing driver’s licenses over gun records conspiracy theory](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/23/missouri-republicans-vote-to-stop-issuing-drivers-licenses-over-gun-records-conspiracy-theory/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29) > [@](#): > > But lawmakers have recently become increasingly concerned that gun records would be shared with federal officials to **create a gun registry that could lead to confiscations**. > > Melissa Wilson, wife of state Rep. Kenneth Wilson (R), told the committee earlier this month that she was certain that gun records had been shared with the federal government as a part of a United Nations initiative called Agenda 21, which some conservatives believe is **a conspiracy to “transform America from the land of the free, to the land of the collective” through “a mind-control” tactic called the Delphi technique.** So, I guess everyone in Missouri will be breaking out the old horse and buggy 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2023 "2013-04-26T13:36:31Z")
One for **Kable** : [So how’s that vote against gun control working out for you?](http://www.courant.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-guns-backlashbre93o1g1-20130425,0,7620432.story) > [@](#): > > Republican Senator Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire faces a possible voter backlash along with critical ads from gun control advocates following her vote against President Barack Obama’s bid to curb gun violence. > > According to a survey by Public Policy Polling released Wednesday, Ayotte’s approval rating stands at 44 percent, \*\*down 15 points \*\*since October when the organization last conducted a poll on her. The poll of 933 New Hampshire voters, from April 19 to April 21, had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percent. > > Fifty percent of those polled said Ayotte’s vote against background checks legislation would make them less likely to support her for re-election. Seventy-five percent said they supported background checks. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2024 "2013-04-27T03:11:01Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > One for **Kable** : Yeah right. [http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-won,32106/](http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-won,32106/) You guys lost. We won. Have a nice day.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2025 "2013-04-27T03:13:36Z")
And who says post-modernist irony is dead? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2026 "2013-04-28T20:00:49Z")
It really is true; if you write something ironic on the interwebs, no matter how outrageously obvious, there’s always a nut job who takes it seriously. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2027 "2013-04-28T20:06:19Z")
You’re kidding, right? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2028 "2013-04-29T03:53:26Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > It really is true; if you write something ironic on the interwebs, no matter how outrageously obvious, there’s always a nut job who takes it seriously. Hahaha, of course its satire you idiot. But you all lost, get it, you all are losers in this whole thing. Wayne and I are the winners, and if that makes you angry take a look in the mirror, that’s the face of a loser. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2029 "2013-04-29T04:57:38Z")
So the takeaway from this thread is that Kable doesn’t know The Onion isn’t true. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2030 "2013-04-29T05:41:04Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > So the takeaway from this thread is that Kable doesn’t know The Onion isn’t true. Here’s another one for you dipshit: [http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-paranoid-government-coming-for-his-guns,30638/](http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-paranoid-government-coming-for-his-guns,30638/) ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2031 "2013-04-29T09:45:50Z")
"This week’s compilation includes: three police-involved accidents, two of which occurred during gun training classes; three “home invasion shootings”( i.e., when one Patriot elects to share a Liberty Projectile with a neighbor, via a Freedom Wall, Window, Floor or Ceiling); five accidents while cleaning loaded guns; three hunting accidents; one concealed carry ninja who shot himself taking his gun out of his pocket, and one who was shot by a child reaching into his pocket. And speaking of the kids, there were nine victims of GunFAIL this week, aged 10 months, 2, 3, 4, 10, 11 and 14. You may have noticed that that’s not nine ages. It was a particularly rough week for the 10-year-olds, of which we lost two, and saw one wounded. Stories of particular note this week include that of the second Carolinian to leave a gun behind in a New York hotel this month; a tee-ball rage shooting; the opening of turkey hunting season (resulting in the shooting of two turkey hunters and an undetermined number of turkeys), and; a potential Idiot Hall of Fame entry involving the Florida man (of course) who tried to convert his BB gun to .40-caliber using nothing but household tape and American Exceptionalism." > **[GunFAIL XV](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2013/04/27/1203495/-GunFAIL-XV)** > > This week's compilation includes: three police-involved accidents, two of which occurred during gun training classes; three "home invasion shootings"( i.e., when one Patriot elects to share a ... ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2032 "2013-04-29T09:49:49Z")
This “special Ed” episode brought to you by GunFail Blog: "A North Carolina man visiting the Sept. 11 memorial and discovering that firearms were not permitted, hastily stashed his gun (legally owned, though not permitted for New York) in the cushions of a seat in the lobby of a World Trade Center-area hotel. And left it there. The timing wasn’t great, either. Apparently, it happened just minutes before the Boston Marathon bombing, so when it was found shortly thereafter, it set off a full-blown security panic. Returning later and finding the gun missing, he did not report it to police. Seems he thought "whoever found it, they would contact him and want a reward,” a relative told police. How they’d find him remains a mystery, but we’ll count that as one vote in favor of a national registry of firearms owners. " ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2033 "2013-04-29T09:54:01Z")
This one was interesting, too: An accidental shooting near a Whitesboro, Tx area gun class sends a fisherman to the hospital. Grayson County deputies say a Sadler man in his 20’s was hit in the thigh with a nine-millimeter round. He was fishing about 100 yards away from a gun class at the Whitesboro Rodeo Grounds around 2 p.m. on Saturday, Sheriff’s Office Lt. Rickey Wheeler said. Deputies say the CHL class teacher is not state-certified and there was no berm or backstop to absorb the bullets. The bullet went through the man’s body, missing his heart by a few inches. Instructor Ramsey tells News 12 he received certification from a 2-day NRA program back in March and has been teaching classes in Bridgeport and Whitesboro, but Lt. Wheeler says CHL instructors in Texas have to be certified by the state. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2034 "2013-04-29T10:54:22Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > You guys lost. We won. Have a nice day.🙂 But I posted an anecdote! Under your method of arguing, that trumps every piece of evidence, no matter how substantial, that you’ve posted thus far. Thus, I win. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2035 "2013-04-29T11:42:47Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Wayne and I are the winners… That’s what we want you to think. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2036 "2013-04-29T13:10:15Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Hahaha, of course its satire you idiot. But you all lost, get it, you all are losers in this whole thing. Wayne and I are the winners, and if that makes you angry take a look in the mirror, that’s the face of a loser. 😃 What do you (and Wayne?) think you have won, and why do you think you have won it? ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2037 "2013-04-29T14:45:51Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > This one was interesting, too: > > An accidental shooting near a Whitesboro, Tx area gun class sends a fisherman to the hospital. > > Grayson County deputies say a Sadler man in his 20’s was hit in the thigh with a nine-millimeter round. He was fishing about 100 yards away from a gun class at the Whitesboro Rodeo Grounds around 2 p.m. on Saturday, Sheriff’s Office Lt. Rickey Wheeler said. Deputies say the CHL class teacher is not state-certified and there was no berm or backstop to absorb the bullets. The bullet went through the man’s body, missing his heart by a few inches. Instructor Ramsey tells News 12 he received certification from a 2-day NRA program back in March and has been teaching classes in Bridgeport and Whitesboro, but Lt. Wheeler says CHL instructors in Texas have to be certified by the state. Hit in the thigh, but missed his heart by a few inches? Was he doubled over while he was fishing? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2038 "2013-04-29T14:49:20Z")
Somehow, until I read it in the current issue of Rolling Stone, I had not heard anything about the Jordan Davis killing: [New Evidence Introduced in Jordan Davis Murder Case Including Pictures, 911 Calls | Atlanta Daily World](http://atlantadailyworld.com/201303134549/Featured/new-evidence-introduced-in-jordan-davis-murder-case-including-pictures-911-calls) Apparently the killer, Dunn, pulls into a gas station so that his girlfriend can go buy some wine. At the station is a car with four black youth who are listening to their “thug music” too loud for Dunn’s liking. He orders them to lower the volume. One youth does; another (Jordan Davis) turns it back up. A verbal altercation ensues, followed by Dunn getting his handgun out of his glove compartment and firing between 8 and 13 shots at the car, including firing at them as they were trying to get away. According to the police, Dunn’s statement at the scene was (paraphrasing from my memory of the Rolling Stone article) something to the effect that “they refused to comply with my command to turn down the music. What else was I supposed to do?” Subsequently, Dunn is claiming that he saw them start to pull a shotgun and that he feared they were advancing on him, and is invoking Stand Your Ground. No weapons of any kind have been found. Photos of the car seem completely inconsistent with his version, and the fact that they were driving away while being shot at also doesn’t fit. It’s simply another case of a soft, doughy middle aged white guy feeling empowered by his firearm to try to intimidate someone else, and being a scared pussy when the intimidation is met with defiance. I love how in his confession, he still invokes the quick-draw shootout fantasy that we’ve heard from **Damuri Ajashi** and others here: “Quicker than a flash, I had a round chambered in it and I shot.” He fucking cannot help it. By the way, Dunn did have a concealed carry permit. We know, of course, that people with concealed carry permits are eminently safe, even-headed, cool customers who are paragons of responsible gun ownership. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2039 "2013-04-29T14:51:01Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > You guys lost. We won. Have a nice day.🙂 We had another poster around here who used to post “winning” each time he was soundly humiliated in a debate. Perhaps your next tactic should be to propose an experiment where you crouch down and attempt intercourse with a paper towel tube. You are in good company. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2040 "2013-04-29T14:56:30Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > We know, of course, that people with concealed carry permits are eminently safe, even-headed, cool customers who are paragons of responsible gun ownership. Right up until the the time they are not. Then he is a criminal. This is why ordinary citizens are always responsible and safe, and the only bad things that happen with guns are done by bad, bad criminals. Rather brilliant reasoning, n’est pas? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=101) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=103)