# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2241 "2013-06-08T14:55:04Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Guns are tools for killing. If you aren’t afraid of some stranger carrying a gun in a place he has no reason to, you’re an idiot.

What places do you have reason to carry a gun?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2242 "2013-06-08T15:14:21Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> What places do you have reason to carry a gun?

I’ve been to campgrounds where rattlesnakes had been spotted; I saw people carrying revolvers and figured that was probably a good idea. They were loaded with shot of some size so there was less chance of serious injury on a ricochet.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2243 "2013-06-08T21:36:07Z")

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And they were more likely to hit it while screaming, “Oh fuck! It’s a rattlesnake!”

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**Author:** ![fudrucker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fudrucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fudrucker)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2244 "2013-06-09T04:21:33Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Plenty of it on both sides of the fence, easy to have a race to the bottom. Post your favorite news report here.
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> I’ll lead with this AR-15 in [Krogers](http://www.nbc29.com/story/20755619/kroger-gun-stunt-sparks-2nd-amendment-debate). Perhaps he is a vegetarian out hunting :dubious:

Interesting that he was not violating any laws and the cops let him go. Doesn’t seem to matter to you.

I reckon you are already at the bottom when it comes to someone’s rights.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2245 "2013-06-09T11:01:29Z")

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> [@fudrucker](#):
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> I reckon you are already at the bottom when it comes to someone’s rights.

Just because it is legal doesn’t mean it is not stupid. Carrying an AR-15 into Kroegers is a stupid thing to do, especially if you are against gun control. Nothing will get guns banned quicker than gunstrokers insisting on carrying their big black guns everywhere. Just because it is legal doesn’t make it prudent.

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**Author:** ![Molesworth\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9dc877/32.png) [@Molesworth\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molesworth_2)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2246 "2013-06-09T13:19:25Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> New Jersey Democrats caught on hot mic calling for gun confiscation:
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> [StockBot by Examiner.com - Stock Examiner bot by Examiner.com](http://www.examiner.com/article/new-jersey-democrats-caught-calling-for-confiscation-of-guns-on-open-microphone)

Wow, that one sentence long article was really informative.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2247 "2013-06-09T14:16:27Z")

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> [@Molesworth\_2](#):
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> Wow, that one sentence long article was really informative.:rolleyes:

😕 You didn’t scroll down? Or clink on the link to the actual clip?

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**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2248 "2013-06-09T14:25:21Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> I’ve been to campgrounds where rattlesnakes had been spotted; I saw people carrying revolvers and figured that was probably a good idea. They were loaded with shot of some size so there was less chance of serious injury on a ricochet.

Handgun vs rattlesnake?  
Meh, I’d rather use a shovel if I had to kill a snake.  
Even with shot pellets instead of a slug.

(Around here it’s illegal, but some places you could.)

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2249 "2013-06-09T14:51:27Z")

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Stupid Gun Story? [4 year old kills father with hand gun](http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/08/us/arizona-man-shot/index.html).

The N.R.A. must just be bustin’ with pride over this one. While they wholeheartedly support the [manufacture and focused marketing of weapons for 5 year olds](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/03/what-s-too-young-for-a-gun-the-industry-behind-the-5-year-old-killer.html), the uptick of [4 year olds](http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/4-year-old-shoots-himself-with-grandfathers-gun) [and 3 year olds](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/08/florida-3-year-old-fatally-shoots-self_n_3237898.html) [and even younger](http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/155787/2yearold_shoots_himself_in_the) exercising their God-given 2nd Amendment Rights to bear and use arms in the lawful protection of themselves and their property and their liberties is an encouraging sign. The N.R.A. sees this next-generation involvement as the insurance of continuity of their agenda well into the 2030’s and beyond.

It’s been a terrific winter and spring for these cute l’il Midget Militiamen !

:mad:

Call me a pussy-whipped pinko left-wing liberal wimp but I prefer my children with their bodies free of bullets and their hands empty of firearms. Zany, right?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2250 "2013-06-09T19:26:35Z")

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That four-year-old could just as easily have killed his dad with a knife or a baseball bat.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2251 "2013-06-09T19:47:09Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> That four-year-old could just as easily have killed his dad with a knife or a baseball bat.

Takes a mighty pissed of four year old to kill with a bat.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2252 "2013-06-09T19:50:06Z")

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If four-year-olds are outlawed, only outlaws will have four-year-olds.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2253 "2013-06-09T20:11:21Z")

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Go ahead, try and give one back!

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2254 "2013-06-10T00:10:38Z")

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> [@fudrucker](#):
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> Interesting that he was not violating any laws and the cops let him go. Doesn’t seem to matter to you.
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> I reckon you are already at the bottom when it comes to someone’s rights.

As a gun owner and ex-NRA member, I have no problem with gun rights.

I DO have a big problem with stupidity - particularly whe it comes to guns. There are limits to all rights and exceeding those limits often becomes quite stupid.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2255 "2013-06-10T01:15:00Z")

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[A NJ Detective uses his weapon. Promotion? Probably. NRA Poster Boy For 2nd Amendment Rights? Hell yeah.](http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/09/justice/maryland-nj-detective-road-rage/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

And then there’s the admirable case of Detective Joseph Walker. No arguing that he knows right from wrong- and he sure showed that bad person a thing or two about America and the Constitution !! I bet that’s the very last time that Joseph Harvey, Jr. ever dares to mouth of to a law-abiding gun-toting protector of our 2nd Amendment rights- especially because he’s dead.

Serves him right.

Right?

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2256 "2013-06-10T01:19:42Z")

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Bad enough, for sure, but where does it say he’s getting a promotion?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2257 "2013-06-10T01:28:47Z")

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You’re kind of a retard, aren’t you?

I mean, most people get over the “Dur–someone I can vaguely link with you did something bad so you suck” thing in 4th grade.

Seriously dude…I didn’t think you could get dumber after the [“Colin Farrell should be charged with RAPE because he acted a simulated sex scene with a minor” thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=355044), but here you are, more retarded than ever.

Dude, seek medication and serious help.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2258 "2013-06-10T04:22:46Z")

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Apparently, in Cartoon’s world, getting charged with second-degree murder is a promotion and an attaboy. This enables one to draw all kinds of conclusions about Cartoon himself.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2259 "2013-06-10T04:36:37Z")

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Allow me to introduce you to the interesting concept known as “sarcasm”. If you peruse my posts in this thread and other threads on Gun Control and Gun-related murders, you will see that I cite accurately. I use new data- frequently the crimes are less than 30 days old in my cites. Sometimes within a few days of the post.

Since you’re either baiting- and I have zero problem stating my position clearly- or are breathtakingly thick, allow me to clarify: I oppose all ownership of guns outside of the military and recognized law enforcement. Even with law enforcement, my last cite shows how completely inappropriate it is to carry a loaded weapon when not on duty. I oppose the use of firearms in any civilian setting for any reason. I have had first hand as well as family and friends whose lives have been directly impacted by the working end of a loaded firearm. They are a curse upon this country and in my humble opinion- which is as valid as anyone else’s on the Dope- the 2nd Amendment has been perverted by a powerful and dangerous lobby into something that would disgust and horrify the framers of my Constitution.

So, **Zariel**. You could not be more mistaken. Sarcasm, sarcasm. Relentless sad sarcasm which is the product of a never-ending cascade of murders that never should be taking place.

Please read the title of this thread. " Stupid Gun News of the Day ". In all of my posts that show cites, the cites show murders committed with guns.

You dare to know what my version of a good world is? Feh. In my world, nobody would be allowed to carry a gun. Period.

Sarcasm. Get it? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/2260 "2013-06-10T16:27:55Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> You’re kind of a retard, aren’t you?

Personally, I would have put him at ‘drooling moron’, rather than mere retard.

> [@Fenris](#):
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> Dude, seek medication and serious help.

And the help he needs is self-help, AKA ‘taking a long walk on a short pier’.

> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Sarcasm. Get it? :dubious:

Drooling moron. Get it? You obviously _don’t_ get the ‘sarcasm’ concept.

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