# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/261 "2013-02-05T21:56:49Z")
> [@artemis](#): > > I’m tempted to say your sentence should be altered to read “a public awareness campaign of the danger of people with dementia.” Firearms, cars, power tools, kitchen appliances… there’s almost no end to the things a demented person shouldn’t be handling anymore My MIL was hell on pilot lights. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/262 "2013-02-05T22:02:34Z")
The only way to stop a demented guy with a gun is some other guy with a gun. More guns in nursing homes. ---
**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/263 "2013-02-05T22:08:14Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > My MIL was hell on pilot lights. My grandmother, who died of Alzheimer’s, nearly burned the house down once trying to “cook” something on the stove. And I shudder to think what a demented handyman type might do by trying to “fix” the furnace or the electrical wiring. Dementia has such an insidious onset, and so many of us no longer live where we have regular close contact with our aging relatives, that we may not see how severe the problem is before a tragedy happens. I can see this becoming a huge issue in the coming decades. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/264 "2013-02-05T22:11:43Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > The only way to stop a demented guy with a gun is some other guy with a gun. More guns in nursing homes. Finally. Someone gets it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/265 "2013-02-05T22:28:22Z")
> [@](#): > > …Talking to him, saying Jesus would help him, was what finally resolved the situation… So, its better to have a Jesus and not need one, than to need one and not have one. There’s probably something deep there, but I’ll never know. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/266 "2013-02-05T22:31:55Z")
Yeah. When it comes to Jesus, I’m wholeheartedly in favor of concealed carry. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/267 "2013-02-05T22:37:26Z")
Do we need to be worried about assault Jesus? ---
**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/268 "2013-02-05T22:40:09Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Do we need to be worried about assault Jesus? Well, he did say he came not to bring peace but a sword, so I’d say yes. Plus we _know_ he’s unstable - look what he did to those moneychangers! ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/269 "2013-02-05T22:44:45Z")
That business with the loaves and fishes sounds like he’s a high-capacity Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/270 "2013-02-05T23:07:44Z")
I think we’ve provided clear evidence of Assault Jesus. Time to ban Christianity! When people object on First Amendment grounds, we can offer a compromise: religious people will be able to choose from a limited list of Christian denominations prevetted for safety (like the Amish and the Quakers - who’s ever heard of a violent Quaker?), and possess a Bible with no more than two Gospels in it. Who needs more than two Gospels at a time? Of course, any Bibles written before the new laws go into effect can be grandfathered in. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/271 "2013-02-05T23:14:46Z")
No grandfathering. I hear they’re dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/272 "2013-02-06T01:07:43Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Do we need to be worried about assault Jesus? [Not anymore. Kia the Homeless Hatchet-wielding Hitchhiker took care of him](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/04/jett-simmons-mcbride-jesus-hatchet-bear-hug_n_2616737.html). ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/273 "2013-02-06T02:49:47Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Two interesting things there - she was quite successful doing so with a little revolver. Also, the story was apparently on CNN. > > Thanks for sharing your evidence that people do not need semi-automatic weapons for successful personal defense, and that these stories receive significant media attention. Of course revolvers are good for defense, though not my first choice. But seeing as how you are an expert in these gun debates Hentor, you must know that just because she was successful with a revolver that fired only one shot before jamming does not mean that all people will be. Surely you also know that a .22 has less reliability in general than do centerfire guns and in general .22s are not considered suitable for personal defense because of their low power. Also you would know that semi-auto firearms generally recoil less per a given caliber than do revolvers and thus would be easier for an older person to shoot, and their larger magazine capacity if needed would help to make up for a person who was a poorer shot and/or was shooting a caliber with lesser knockdown power. You would know all that right? ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/274 "2013-02-06T02:53:18Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Of course revolvers are good for defense, though not my first choice. But seeing as how you are an expert in these gun debates Hentor, you must know that just because she was successful with a revolver that fired only one shot before jamming does not mean that all people will be. Surely you also know that a .22 has less reliability in general than do centerfire guns and in general .22s are not considered suitable for personal defense because of their low power. Also you would know that semi-auto firearms generally recoil less per a given caliber than do revolvers and thus would be easier for an older person to shoot, and their larger magazine capacity if needed would help to make up for a person who was a poorer shot and/or was shooting a caliber with lesser knockdown power. You would know all that right? Aw, heck. Even lil ole grammas know that! ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/275 "2013-02-06T02:53:30Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > In other words, 89 year old lady defends herself with gun that would not be banned. Not yet, but as a number of posters on this very board have said, the Presidents proposals are just “a good start.” We all know gun-control advocates consider handguns the big evil. “Assault weapons” are just the low hanging fruit for now. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/276 "2013-02-06T02:57:04Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > What is inane is your insistence that a 89 year old lady who defended herself is a stupid gun news story. Yeah well, how about this guy in a wheelchair? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/1pPtbI5C4NY/hqdefault.jpg "Disabled Florida Man Shoots Attacker") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pPtbI5C4NY) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/277 "2013-02-06T03:00:40Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Of course revolvers are good for defense, though not my first choice. But seeing as how you are an expert in these gun debates Hentor, you must know that just because she was successful with a revolver that fired only one shot before jamming does not mean that all people will be. Surely you also know that a .22 has less reliability in general than do centerfire guns and in general .22s are not considered suitable for personal defense because of their low power. Also you would know that semi-auto firearms generally recoil less per a given caliber than do revolvers and thus would be easier for an older person to shoot, and their larger magazine capacity if needed would help to make up for a person who was a poorer shot and/or was shooting a caliber with lesser knockdown power. You would know all that right? Moral: When an attempted attack is not foiled by defensive gun use, that proves that people should be using more powerful guns. When an attempted attack **is** foiled by defensive gun use, on the other hand, that proves… that people should be using more powerful guns. I get the impression that this particular magic 8-ball has only one answer in its repertoire. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/278 "2013-02-06T03:05:58Z")
**Kable** , wasn’t that anecdote brought here by you? Why, yes it was! And so was the last one about the woman with the small pistol, and the previous one about the woman sucessfully defending herself with a small pistol. It’s odd that you seem so antagonistic towards your own argument from anecdote. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/279 "2013-02-06T03:28:21Z")
Well, if all he’s going to do is post a youtube link rather than give us the text of the story, he’s kind of got to argue both sides, then, doesn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/280 "2013-02-06T03:29:26Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > **Kable** , wasn’t that anecdote brought here by you? Why, yes it was! And so was the last one about the woman with the small pistol, and the previous one about the woman sucessfully defending herself with a small pistol. > > It’s odd that you seem so antagonistic towards your own argument from anecdote. No, the anecdote was still cool. You just drew an ignorant conclusion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=15)