# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/301 "2013-02-06T15:46:04Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > No, the anecdote was still cool. You just drew an ignorant conclusion. Should’ve drawn yours first and shot his out of his hand! ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/302 "2013-02-06T15:46:39Z")
[Here’s at least one more](http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/20/justice/new-mexico-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1). Don’t worry though, the 3 kids and the mom were killed with a .22 rifle. He saved the “assault rifle” to kill his dad, then loaded both guns in a van and was allegedly considering shooting up a store when he was apprehended. So, 27? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/303 "2013-02-06T16:43:55Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > [Here’s at least one more](http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/20/justice/new-mexico-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1). Don’t worry though, the 3 kids and the mom were killed with a .22 rifle. And not a bar stool in sight. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/304 "2013-02-06T17:34:34Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > I’m sure some are stupid, but if few or none were committed with an “assault weapon” it will make the new proposed “assault weapon” ban just as stupid as the old one. Speaking of the old assault weapons ban, it lasted from 1994 until 2004. In that time, how many handguns or shotguns were seized from lawful gun owners? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/305 "2013-02-06T18:29:06Z")
Here’s my entry for today: > [@](#): > > A South Carolina toddler is dead after reportedly mistaking a pink handgun for a toy. > > Police responded to a call about a shooting at Haywood Plantation Apartments in Greenville, S.C., at 7:30 p.m. Friday night, the Associated Press reported. There, officers found 3-year-old Temorej Smith dead from a single gunshot wound to the head. > > On Monday, police reported that the shooting occurred while Smith and his 7-year-old sister were in a bedroom at home, playing with a pink handgun they might have thought was a toy, according to CBS local affiliate WCSC… > **[3-Year-Old Killed After Reportedly Mistaking Pink Handgun For Toy](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tmorej-smith-3-years-old-shot-pink-handgun-toy_n_2625386)** > > 3-Year-Old Killed After Reportedly Mistaking Pink Handgun For Toy What chaps my ass is this fascist from the story trying to infringe on our rights: > [@](#): > > “If you have guns, if you own guns mostly we would prefer you have them in a lock box,” Johnathan Bragg of the Greenville Police Department told the news station. “At least have them out of the reach of children.” ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/306 "2013-02-06T18:42:42Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Well you could just let Granny get murdered. You mean, murdered like the Granny in your example who talked the maniac down and managed to end the situation peacefully after being able to miss him only once? Instead of firing wildly around her with a semi-auto? I’d run like hell if she were compensating for her poor marksmanship with a G19, as well. Or any other automatic for that sake. Doesn’t need to be a G18. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/307 "2013-02-06T20:14:55Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Here’s my entry for today: > [Tmorej Smith, 3, Killed After Reportedly Mistaking Pink Handgun For Toy | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/tmorej-smith-3-years-old-shot-pink-handgun-toy_n_2625386.html) > > What chaps my ass is this fascist from the story trying to infringe on our rights: I am all for banning pink handguns. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/308 "2013-02-07T02:27:02Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > [Here’s at least one more](http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/20/justice/new-mexico-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1). Don’t worry though, the 3 kids and the mom were killed with a .22 rifle. He saved the “assault rifle” to kill his dad, then loaded both guns in a van and was allegedly considering shooting up a store when he was apprehended. So, 27? Ca3799 was keeping count of everything since Newtown. So out of 1600 and something that makes for a total of 7 by your count. My guess would be maybe 2% so maybe 30 or so? Either way it’s a whole lot less than 1600. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/309 "2013-02-07T02:29:34Z")
It’s the NRA, so I suppose it’s "stupid gun news: [NRA’s “enemies list”: Most of America](http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/opinion/avlon-nra-enemy-list/index.html). They’ve published a list of “anti-gun” people and organizations that apparently includes much of the national population. > [@](#): > > This idea gets thrown into even sharper relief when you look at a partial list of civic, charitable and religious organizations that the NRA has determined are “anti-gun.” Warning: Take a deep breath before reading aloud: > > • AARP; > > • AFL-CIO; > > • American Medical Association; > > • American Bar Association; > > • American Jewish Committee; > > • Anti-Defamation League; > > • B`nai B`rith; > > • Children`s Defense Fund; > > • Environmental Action Foundation; > > • Episcopal Church; > > • Lauder Foundation; > > • League of Women Voters of the United States; > > • National Association of Police Organizations; > > • National Coalition Against Domestic Violence; > > • National Association for the Advancement of Colored People; > > • National Council of La Raza; > > • National Urban League; > > • National Spinal Cord Injury Association; > > • Southern Christian Leadership Conference; > > • U.S. Catholic Conference; > > • United Methodist Church; > > • United Church of Christ; > > • U.S. Conference of Mayors; > > • and the YWCA of the USA. > > I ask this in all seriousness: Who’s left? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/310 "2013-02-07T02:31:24Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > I dunno, but it appears that the mass shootings have increased sine the assault weapon ban ended. Could you research that real quick? I sure hope you answer my question because I’m wondering why you posted the 1619 number? Is it because you think all guns are bad and should be banned? Or is it you think assault rifles are responsible for the whole number. Or is it because you want people to think assault rifles are responsible for the whole number so you can gather support to ban them first, then when the number stays the same you can go after handguns? Some other reason? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/311 "2013-02-07T02:32:43Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Speaking of the old assault weapons ban, it lasted from 1994 until 2004. In that time, how many handguns or shotguns were seized from lawful gun owners? None. Do you wish they had seized some? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/312 "2013-02-07T02:34:34Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s the NRA, so I suppose it’s "stupid gun news: [NRA’s “enemies list”: Most of America](http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/opinion/avlon-nra-enemy-list/index.html). They’ve published a list of “anti-gun” people and organizations that apparently includes much of the national population. You would agree the churches are bad at least, wouldn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/313 "2013-02-07T02:40:13Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > None. So your fear mongering about slippery slopes won’t hunt. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/314 "2013-02-07T02:49:35Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > You would agree the churches are bad at least, wouldn’t you? Sure. But for entirely different reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/315 "2013-02-07T02:57:03Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So your fear mongering about slippery slopes won’t hunt. Slippery slope is out. The word now is incrementalism. > **[Incrementalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incrementalism)** > > Incrementalism is a method of working by adding to or subtracting from a project using many small incremental changes instead of a few (extensively planned) large jumps. Logical incrementalism implies that the steps in the process are sensible. Logical incrementalism focuses on "the Power-Behavioral Approach to planning rather than to the Formal Systems Planning Approach". In public policy, incrementalism is the method of change by which many small policy changes are enacted over time in or Most ... It hunts just fine, and it’s not a fallacy. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/316 "2013-02-07T02:58:05Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Sure. But for entirely different reasons. I’m against them because they are irrational. How about you? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/317 "2013-02-07T03:17:15Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > I’m against them because they are irrational. How about you? That’s funny, because you are also irrational. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/318 "2013-02-07T03:26:16Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > That’s funny, because you are also irrational. How so? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/319 "2013-02-07T03:40:39Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > How so? Ah, that’s right, you also have trouble with comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/320 "2013-02-07T04:02:41Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > How so? Because you ascribe to “incrementalism”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=17)