# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3501 "2013-12-11T15:02:37Z")

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This is a stupid tangent but it reminds me of the _This American Life_ experiment where they tested testosterone levels of various people involved in the program (men and women) to see how they matched up against public perception. And the guy with the highest testosterone levels, by a large margin, was [this guy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rakoff). Yep, the guy bursting with testosterone was the extremely left-wing, gay, Jewish, wimpy writer. Admittedly the base of comparison was other people from NPR but even for that group he was not the one you would have picked.

So can you all just shut the hell up about it now?

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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3502 "2013-12-14T09:15:19Z")

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Darwin almost in action. Unfortunately, the 23 year old (um… in months) can’t aim worth shit.

[Mom shot while taking gun from toddler](http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/mom-shot-while-taking-gun-from-toddler/article_191ae80d-5297-5976-8e1e-e61b694f8d7f.html)

And I’ve never really understood this:

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> Firearms should be stored unloaded and locked. Ammunition should be stored in a separate location.

How can you go into Rambo mode when people start knocking on your door if you have to run around the house getting & unlocking ammo & stuff?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3503 "2013-12-14T15:46:58Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> Darwin almost in action. Unfortunately, the 23 year old (um… in months) can’t aim worth shit.
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> [Mom shot while taking gun from toddler](http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/mom-shot-while-taking-gun-from-toddler/article_191ae80d-5297-5976-8e1e-e61b694f8d7f.html)
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> And I’ve never really understood this:
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> How can you go into Rambo mode when people start knocking on your door if you have to run around the house getting & unlocking ammo & stuff?

“Rambo mode” aside, guns you aren’t expecting to use should indeed be stored unloaded and locked. As for a shit-hits-the-fan firearm, it should be kept ready to use but in a quick-access locked safe or rack. Leaving firearms unsecured, especially in a house with children, is imbecilic.

In the 1973 version of _The Three Musketeers_, when the Cardinal’s men come in the night to arrest M. Bonacieux, he grabs a pistol off his nightstand and futily begins trying to load powder, patch and ball. I wish I could find a clip of that online.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3504 "2013-12-21T16:58:27Z")

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Not stupid but certainly offbeat Gun News.

Plant your flower garden with a shotgun.

“[I like gardens more than gardening. I also like guns more than killing.](http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/12/flower-shells-inventor-on-his-need-to-spread-seeds-with-a-shotgun/)”

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3505 "2013-12-24T01:25:31Z")

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“A Colorado Springs teenage girl, age 14, was shot and killed on Monday morning after her stepfather mistook her for a burglar at her own home, stated Colorado police located in Colorado Springs.”

> **[Colorado Teenage Girl Shot and Killed by Stepfather](https://guardianlv.com/2013/12/colorado-teenage-girl-shot-and-killed-by-stepfather/)**
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> A Colorado Springs teenage girl, age 14, was shot and killed on Monday morning after her stepfather mistook her for a burglar at her own home, stated Colorado police located in Colorado Springs. The event happened around 6 a.m. near the 4300 block of...

Surely teenagers should know they should come home by the time their parents tell them–rather than sneak in later.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3506 "2013-12-24T01:49:39Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> mistook her for a burglar

:smack: I have to concede, I can’t imagine what kind of total f\*\*\*ing imbeciles do this, any more than I can understand how deer hunters end up shooting cows and each other.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3507 "2013-12-24T04:37:49Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> :smack: I have to concede, I can’t imagine what kind of total f\*\*\*ing imbeciles do this, any more than I can understand how deer hunters end up shooting cows and each other.

They’re scared people. It’s not hard to understand. They have been repeatedly told that they are exceptionally vulnerable, and they exercise judgment accordingly.

I’m confused by your reaction, though.

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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3508 "2013-12-24T07:16:44Z")

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Oddly enough, I’ve never heard about a home security system accidentally shooting anyone.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3509 "2013-12-24T13:02:53Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> Oddly enough, I’ve never heard about a home security system accidentally shooting anyone.

That’s so clever. You dems should run on that platform and use it to try and ban guns again.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3510 "2013-12-24T13:09:02Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Surely teenagers should know they should come home by the time their parents tell them–rather than sneak in later.

Surly teenagers even more so.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3511 "2013-12-25T20:17:09Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> Oddly enough, I’ve never heard about a home security system accidentally shooting anyone.

Are you under the impression that a home alarm covers all your bases?

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3512 "2013-12-26T03:51:58Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> They’re scared people. It’s not hard to understand. They have been repeatedly told that they are exceptionally vulnerable, and they exercise judgment accordingly.

That attitude is the thing I wish more pro-gun-rights types agreed with me on. The likelihood of me even having a valid opportunity to use any of my guns for anything other than recreation is absolutely minuscule.

If more gun owners actually understood the statistics of violent crime on a gut level, I imagine you’d see many fewer of those kinds of incidents.

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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3513 "2013-12-26T17:53:28Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Are you under the impression that a home alarm covers all your bases?

If by ‘home alarm system’ you mean ‘solid locks on doors & windows, well-lit exterior, and basic common sense, etc etc’, then yes, I am under that impression. Unlike you, I do not live in a delusional, paranoid corner of the universe where I fantasize about going into Rambo mode every second of the day.

Or it could just be you live in a shit hole. Sucks to be you.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3514 "2013-12-26T19:35:15Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> Or it could just be you live in a shit hole. Sucks to be you.

Aren’t you bleeding hearts supposed to care about people living in shit holes? You must love Mitt Romney.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3515 "2013-12-26T20:18:39Z")

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Here’s an article on the stepdad who killed his stepdaughter:

“Meade, a 10-year Army veteran, was an enlisted soldier who ascended to the rank of sergeant first-class before accepting his commission within the past year, Fort Carson spokeswoman Dani Johnson said. He is the recipient of a Bronze Star, an Army Commendation medal, and other laurels… Meade also has a Ranger tab and a Special Forces tab, showing that he completed some of the Army’s toughest and most exclusive combat training.”

> **[Crime Stoppers Town Hall](https://gazette.secondstreetapp.com/Crime-Stoppers-Town-Hall-2/)**
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> Check it out now!

With his training he surely doesn’t have the excuse that he panicked.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3516 "2013-12-27T01:00:49Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> With his training he surely doesn’t have the excuse that he panicked.

No? [http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/tc/ptsd-and-panic-attacks-overview](http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/tc/ptsd-and-panic-attacks-overview)

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3517 "2013-12-27T02:08:25Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> If by ‘home alarm system’ you mean ‘solid locks on doors & windows, well-lit exterior, and basic common sense, etc etc’, then yes, I am under that impression. Unlike you, I do not live in a delusional, paranoid corner of the universe where I fantasize about going into Rambo mode every second of the day.
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> Or it could just be you live in a shit hole. Sucks to be you.

So basically, you’re saying fuck the poor?

> [@Kable](#):
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> Aren’t you bleeding hearts supposed to care about people living in shit holes? You must love Mitt Romney.

Well, you know its their fault that they live in shitholes. Hell, there’s a $3 million house down the street for sale with a great security system, why don’t they just buy THAT place. If they worked hard enough and made the right choices in life, it would be within reach, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3518 "2013-12-27T04:24:05Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Well, you know its their fault that they live in shitholes. Hell, there’s a $3 million house down the street for sale with a great security system, why don’t they just buy THAT place. If they worked hard enough and made the right choices in life, it would be within reach, I’m sure.

Oh that’s rich, that is. Now I suppose we’ll be hearing that the NRA is the great champion of the poor. “See, we’re fighting to keep the Obama from taking poor people’s guns. So they can fight off all those rich folks trying to exploit 'em”. Or something.

Maybe ya oughta run that one by Wayne LaPierre’s speechwriters. I’m sure they’d be duly greatful…

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**Author:** ![TubaDiveCatUmbrellaNegroTeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@TubaDiveCatUmbrellaNegroTeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiveCatUmbrellaNegroTeller)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3519 "2013-12-27T04:53:36Z")

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Damn I wish there wrre more guns so everyone would be afraid to shoot anybody and then ta da no more violence

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/3520 "2013-12-27T04:57:05Z")

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> [@SeldomSeen](#):
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> Maybe ya oughta run that one by Wayne LaPierre’s speechwriters. I’m sure they’d be duly greatful…

With handguns and assault weapons flying off the shelves in record numbers they really don’t need any help though, do they.

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