# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/341 "2013-02-08T13:40:38Z")

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Turns out the gun range where Kyle was killed had another ‘incident’ where a staff member helped a teen load and shoot a 12 gauge that blew the kids thumb off and permanently damaged his hand.

The staffer was not a gun range staffer, he was a zip line staffer… Because any yahoo can use a gun. [Chris Kyle Shooting Death Not Only Gun Disaster At Resort | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/chris-kyle-shooting-rough-creek-resort_n_2639112.html)

I don’t have any problem treating gun ownership similar to car ownership. A class, a test, a license, a registration and insurance- things long those lines seem very reasonable to me.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/342 "2013-02-08T13:49:12Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Apparently that’s the [full](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-celebrity_n_2642111.html) [manifesto](http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/lapd-spree-killers-full-manifesto-showing-support-for-gun-co) that was on his Facebook page. Police reportedly requested that the portions concerning celebrities and political figures be withheld while he is on the loose, in case they are potential targets. (This seems backward to me; if your name is on his manifesto, wouldn’t you want to know that so you can protect yourself?)

Wow. Thanks for the correction. I was sure all that shit about Michele Obama’s bangs and Charlie Sheen being awesome was someone’s idea of parody. Yikes. Crazy motherfucker.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/343 "2013-02-08T13:54:28Z")

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> [@Ca3799](#):
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> I don’t have any problem treating gun ownership similar to car ownership. A class, a test, a license, a registration and insurance- things long those lines seem very reasonable to me.

Registration and insurance may pose a problem, but I thing a license to own a gun with tests would be a good idea.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/344 "2013-02-08T14:27:17Z")

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Here’s my entry for today:

> **[Woman unintentionally shoots fiance at gun range](http://ohhshoot.blogspot.com/2013/01/woman-unintentionally-shoots-fiance-at.html)**
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> A couple were among a large group of people target shooting at the Manatee Gun and Archery Club in Myakka City, Florida. The woman was firin...

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> A couple were among a large group of people target shooting at the Manatee Gun and Archery Club in Myakka City, Florida. The woman was firing a .45-caliber Taurus handgun when a bullet casing landed inside her shirt.  
> While trying to keep the hot casing off her skin and get the casing out of her blouse, she bent over and started swatting her shirt. But she was still holding the gun with her finger on the trigger.  
> She unintentionally discharged the gun, shooting her fiance in the leg. The bullet passed through his right thigh.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/345 "2013-02-08T16:57:38Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> It’s the NRA, so I suppose it’s "stupid gun news: [NRA’s “enemies list”: Most of America](http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/opinion/avlon-nra-enemy-list/index.html). They’ve published a list of “anti-gun” people and organizations that apparently includes much of the national population.

What I find interesting , is, who is **not** on the list, like the KKK or the American Nazi Party.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/346 "2013-02-09T04:31:57Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Christopher Dorner, a former LAPD officer and Navy Reservist, allegedly killed two people last weekend and shot three cops (one fatally) early this morning. Dorner was fired from the LAPD in 2009, allegedly for making a false report against another officer. It looks like Dorner nursed a grudge about this for more than three years, posted a long essay on his Facebook page detailing his grievances and threatening LAPD officers and their familes, and then started killing people.
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> The _LA Times_ story is [here](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-alleged-goes-on-rampage-shooting-3-officers-killing-one.html), and you can read his entire manifesto [here](http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/read-christopher-dorners-so-called-manifesto/#axzz2KE3VhXkC).
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> Not really stupid gun news, I guess, as much as horrifying gun news. Also, another story of someone who was a “Good Guy With a Gun”… until he wasn’t.

But Dorner is a liberal wacko. How strange…:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/347 "2013-02-09T13:16:52Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> I would want to know, but in California you can only protect yourself after a 10 day wait.

“_Five days_? But I’m angry NOW!” -Homer Simpson

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/348 "2013-02-09T15:32:39Z")

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I skipped most of the thread, but the guy in the OP is a world class asshole. I have no problems with carrying, concealed or open, a handgun in public.

But a rifle in a grocery store? That’s so out of the ordinary that it’s going to scare the shit out of everyone there. Plus it is private property and your 2nd amendment rights are no stronger than my 1st amendment rights to stand in the aisles and yell that Kroger sucks and everyone should shop at Target.

I liked how he made a point to look for a sign that prohibits carrying a loaded rifle in Kroger. No, dipshit, there is no sign. There also isn’t a sign saying that you can’t rob the store or wave your dick around at the cashiers. Do we need a sign for every social faux pas, even if it is technically legal? This is absolutely the incorrect way to protest new gun control proposals.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/349 "2013-02-09T22:12:24Z")

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I propose the parents of these fifth grade [kids](http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/feb/09/fifth-grade-colville-boys-accused-of-plotting-to/) as world class assholes of the week. WTF are they teaching their kid???

(Sorry, no game/movie excuses allowed)

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/350 "2013-02-09T22:30:37Z")

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Charged with witness tampering… _sniff_ they grow up so fast!

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**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/351 "2013-02-10T01:15:47Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> “_Five days_? But I’m angry NOW!” -Homer Simpson

“I’d shoot you if I had my gun.”

“Yeah, well, you don’t.”

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/352 "2013-02-10T13:08:23Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> As I mentioned earlier, you seem to think that posting these links serves some sort of purpose other than flagging your inability to understand the point of this thread. A less clueless person, assuming they weren’t actively trolling, would go start a different thread about successful constructive instances of gun usage rather than shitting up this one, because that would actively contribute to the quality of the board.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/McxB75FOFOw/hqdefault.jpg "Tulsa Oklahoma Woman Shoots Two Would-Be Rapists") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McxB75FOFOw)

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/353 "2013-02-10T20:48:52Z")

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Here’s the weekly update to GunFail on DailyKos (GunFail IV). 60 new incidents this week.

> **[GunFAIL IV](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2013/02/08/1183981/-GunFAIL-IV)**
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> Well, the shooting continues apace, so it's time for another installment of what's becoming a regular feature: the #GunFAIL series.
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> First, we'll catch up on some old business: stories that didn't ...

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/354 "2013-02-10T20:54:40Z")

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In the “But I Thought It Was Unloaded” Department, we have Red Sox pitching prospect, er, perhaps \*former \*prospect, [Bryce Brentz](http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/2013/02/10/red-sox-prospect-bryce-brentz-accidentally-shoots-himself-the-leg/Px6bT4ZYjQn7D6NGDSOHWJ/story.html).

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/355 "2013-02-10T23:21:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryce Brentz]  
I have to be more careful.  
[/QUOTE]  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/356 "2013-02-10T23:47:31Z")

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[quote=“Kable, post:352, topic:648729”]

[/QUOTE] Ah, you \*are\* trolling. I shall leave you to it.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/357 "2013-02-10T23:52:05Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Here’s the weekly update to GunFail on DailyKos (GunFail IV). 60 new incidents this week.
> 
> [GunFAIL IV](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/08/1183981/-GunFAIL-IV)

What amazes me is how many people carry their (semi-)automatic pistols cocked and with one in the chamber, as if an emergency will not give them time to rack the slide. In an unscientific survey of people who would be considered “responsible” gun owners the number is [nearly all of them.](http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325728)

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/358 "2013-02-10T23:58:04Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> What amazes me is how many people carry their (semi-)automatic pistols cocked and with one in the chamber, as if an emergency will not give them time to rack the slide. In an unscientific survey of people who would be considered “responsible” gun owners the number is [nearly all of them.](http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325728)

Couldn’t open that link for work, but there is a certain argument for that… with 300-400 million guns out there, if even 10% of the owners were irresponsible gun owners, we would have MILLIONS of people firing their weapons by accident, and you’d think that’d make some news.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/359 "2013-02-11T01:11:14Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> What amazes me is how many people carry their (semi-)automatic pistols cocked and with one in the chamber, as if an emergency will not give them time to rack the slide. In an unscientific survey of people who would be considered “responsible” gun owners the number is [nearly all of them.](http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325728)

Are you suggesting it’s irresponsible to carry exactly like the police do?

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/360 "2013-02-11T01:12:39Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Here’s the weekly update to GunFail on DailyKos (GunFail IV). 60 new incidents this week.
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> [GunFAIL IV](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/08/1183981/-GunFAIL-IV)

How many of those accidents are with “assault weapons” that the President intends to ban?

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