# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 211
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4201 "2014-08-01T19:42:10Z")
[Brain doctor takes AR-15 to airport to buy coffee.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/29/1317499/-Arizona-man-arrested-in-Phoenix-Sky-Harbor-Airport-after-open-carry-protest-terrifies-travelers) Face it, you knew it was in Arizona even before you hovered over the link. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4202 "2014-08-06T19:30:48Z")
Do [click the story](http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/05/us-usa-arizona-gun-rights-idUSKBN0G505G20140805) to see the “researcher’s” peculiar smirk. (steronz beat me to the story by 5 days, but I’d already typed all this in before noticing. 😛 ) [QUOTE=Reuters] An Arizona medical researcher arrested after taking a loaded assault rifle into the Phoenix airport said on Monday he was making a political statement and did not intend to harm anyone. Authorities said Peter Nathan Steinmetz pointed the weapon at a terrified woman and her daughter on July 25, after striding around Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport with the weapon slung over his shoulder. On Monday, Steinmetz spoke publicly about the incident for the first time. “Put simply, I decided to make the point that a peaceful citizen can openly and responsibly carry a firearm - including an AR-15 - for the protection of themselves and their community,” Steinmetz said in a statement read to reporters.He maintained that he was not pointing the gun at anyone at the airport and is “an educated and responsible gun owner” who had the safety on at the time. [/QUOTE] Gun nuts are beyond stupid. They don’t even pretend to have comprehensible positions. The **Brickhead** bragged about his (“need” for a) concealed carry license, then admits the license was just for a loophole to let him buy an N+1’th gun. Another Doper couldn’t civilly explain his “need” for a silencer. I guess their leader, C. Heston, couldn’t decide whether it was the Second Commandment with no context, or “ethnic diversity” that made America’s need for guns so special. Now that Heston’s dead, I guess G. Zimmerman (or the jerks who “needed” assault rifles in a restaurant) is their new idol, though they hem-haw to deny it. Google to learn why intelligent Americans who have their brain miswired enough to let fear dominate their thinking, also tend to have such stupid ideas on economics, homosexuality, etc. ETA: Despite the title, I understand GOP and Gun Nuts are not the same set. Still, observation of the BrickHead idiocies, etc. suggests strong correlation.) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4203 "2014-08-07T14:49:21Z")
I haven’t been in this thread much, so my apologies if these have already been covered. Four guys are sitting around an apartment drinking. One gets a pistol, points it at his roommate, and asks “do you trust me?” The best answer would have been “No,” because the guy with the gun then shot the other guy in the torso, killing him. According to the [article](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/arnold-man-asked-roommate-if-he-trusted-him-before-fatal/article_9e241b44-cf09-5d06-ac25-be8aa4bc54ff.html) in the _St. Louis Post Dispatch_: > [@StL Post Dispatch](#): > > Wildharber, 21, partially removed the magazine and ejected ammunition from the chamber, then reinserted the magazine and pointed the pistol at Knight. > > Wildharber asked Knight if he trusted him, after which Wildharber pulled the trigger, hitting Knight once in the torso, court documents say. The police found other guns in Wildharber’s bedroom. In a separate story, a suburban St. Louis woman was sentenced yesterday to seven years for involuntary manslaughter in the June shooting death of her boyfriend. From the _Post Dispatch_ [article](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/festus-woman-gets-years-for-killing-boyfriend-with-gun-she/article_0b89da83-58be-53d6-a2a8-fa478c195f7f.html): > [@Post Dispatch](#): > > Makenzie Halinski, 21, pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter on June 17 in the death of Cole Campbell, 20. In exchange, Jefferson County prosecutors dropped a charge of armed criminal action. > > Halinski told Festus police in a recorded interview that Campbell had been showing her how to use guns on June 24, 2013, before the shooting happened in his basement bedroom in the 400 block of South Fifth Street in Festus. > > Halinski said Campbell handed her a gun and told her it was unloaded and the safety was on, according to court documents. She said he always unloaded a gun and put the safety on before handing it to her, according to a probable cause statement. > > She said Campbell told her to point the gun toward him and said, “Shoot me.” Halinski said she did because she thought the gun would not fire, court documents say. > > It did fire, and the bullet hit Campbell in the forehead The parents of the deceased said their son had aspired to be a gunsmith. In his [obituary](http://vinyardfuneralhome.net/obituary.php?idx2=983), they asked for donations in his memory to “the N.R.A. or any gun rights organization” ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4204 "2014-08-08T04:15:14Z")
It’s time for this country to get tough on youth crime. For example here’s a 7 year old who shot his 8 year old cousin in the face “accidentally”. > **[Police: 8-year-old boy accidentally shot in face by cousin](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/08/07/texas-boy-shot-handgun/13759735/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories)** > > When three small boys began to play with the weapon, the 7-year-old accidentally shot the 8-year-old in the face, according to Texas City Police. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4205 "2014-08-08T08:04:23Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > It’s time for this country to get tough on youth crime. For example here’s a 7 year old who shot his 8 year old cousin in the face “accidentally”. > [Police: 8-year-old boy accidentally shot in face by cousin](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/08/07/texas-boy-shot-handgun/13759735/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories) _The parents of the 8-year old were remiss in not arming him. The he would have been able to “stand his ground.”_ (Watch out. The gun nuts are _almost_ imbecilic enough to identify the problem thusly.) ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4206 "2014-08-08T18:39:20Z")
From the Kansas Historical Society site [Kansas in 1876 - Kansas Historical Society](http://www.kshs.org/p/kansas-in-1876/13268) : > [@](#): > > Accidental deaths, homicides, and near brushes with death were news and received much space in newspapers of a century ago. In both 1870 and 1880 three out of four deaths from accidents or injuries were male and the following news reports suggest an even greater dominance of male deaths in 1876. For instance, a seven-year-old boy in Sumner county “climbed up to a shelf . . . took a loaded pistol, and pointing it at his little sister of two years, fired, and the ball entered her head, killing her in about two hours.” > –96. Peabody Gazette, June 9, 1876 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4207 "2014-08-08T18:43:50Z")
Huh. Well, bullets sure are a lot faster now. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4208 "2014-08-14T17:00:46Z")
[Sheriff Deputy Shoots Daughter, Mistakes Her For A Burglar](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/13/easton-mcdonald-shoots-daughter_n_5676486.html) > [@](#): > > The father, Easton McDonald, was allegedly getting ready for his job as a deputy with the Loudon County Sheriff’s Department when he heard an alarm triggered in the garage. > > McDonald grabbed a firearm because he heard a bang and other sounds from inside the attached garage. When he opened the door, he allegedly fired at the person he saw coming toward him, the Winchester Star reports. > > After he turned on the light, he realized the intruder was his daughter, who had snuck out earlier in the evening and was possibly trying to get back in without getting caught. Of course, this might never have happened if he was just an ordinary civilian without firearms training. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4209 "2014-08-16T08:40:03Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [Sheriff Deputy Shoots Daughter, Mistakes Her For A Burglar](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/13/easton-mcdonald-shoots-daughter_n_5676486.html) > Of course, this might never have happened if he was just an ordinary civilian without firearms training. I’ve hardly held a gun, except for rare target practice, and have sincere questions about proper behavior. Should the homeowner, whether sheriff deputy or not, have issued a verbal challenge or something first? He could hardly be sure he was in a “self-defense” situation. Is he justified in shooting to kill if there’s a 1% chance he’s about to be shot? 0.01% chance? (I realize he won’t have time to weight the odds, but is there a “rule of [del]thumb[/del] trigger-finger” ? ) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4210 "2014-08-16T14:54:11Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’ve hardly held a gun, except for rare target practice, and have sincere questions about proper behavior. Should the homeowner, whether sheriff deputy or not, have issued a verbal challenge or something first? He could hardly be sure he was in a “self-defense” situation. Is he justified in shooting to kill if there’s a 1% chance he’s about to be shot? 0.01% chance? (I realize he won’t have time to weight the odds, but is there a “rule of [del]thumb[/del] trigger-finger” ? ) This is what I wonder. It seems to me that way too many people, including police, have a shoot first, ask questions later attitude. This attitude is much more concerning to me than the prevalence of guns. ---
**Author:** ![abatementyogin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@abatementyogin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abatementyogin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4211 "2014-08-19T00:44:33Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Some actual data and analysis, from the [New England Journal of Medicine](http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199310073291506#t=articleResults):Plenty of links there, for those so inclined. Just made an account here to clear one thing up. **There is no evidence of any of the household guns in the Kellermann et al study being the same ones used in the homicides.** In fact: > [@](#): > > gun kept in the home where the shooting occurred. (Kellermann, et. al. 1998. “Injuries and deaths due to firearms in the home.” Journal of Trauma 45:263-267) (“The authors reported that among those 438 assaultive gunshot woundings, 49 involved a gun ‘kept in the home where the shooting occurred,’ 295 involved a gun brought to the scene from elsewhere, and another 94 involved a gun whose origins were not noted by the police [p. 252].”) (Kleck, Gary. “Can Owning a Gun Really Triple the Owner’s Chances of Being Murdered?” Homicide Studies [http://hsx.sagepub.com/content/5/1/64.short](http://hsx.sagepub.com/content/5/1/64.short) > **[Debunking the '3 times more likely to be the victim' myth -- reprise -...](https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x334436)** > > Debunking the '3 times more likely to be the victim' myth -- reprise In short the original study didn’t bother to determine if any of the guns were the same ones used in the killings, in a subsequent study by Kellermann in 1998 he looked at 438 assaults and homicides occuring in the home, the vast majority were committed with household guns that the perp brought into the household. Not a gun kept in the household. This study should no longer be cited critically. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4212 "2014-08-19T01:26:21Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Do [click the story](http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/05/us-usa-arizona-gun-rights-idUSKBN0G505G20140805) to see the “researcher’s” peculiar smirk. (steronz beat me to the story by 5 days, but I’d already typed all this in before noticing. 😛 ) Holy shit. What a loon. I’d feel safer if this asshole was locked up for the rest of his life. Or at least for the rest of my life. The story to which you link says that the lunatic was arrested in an earlier incident in which he went to the airport with a loaded gun. Here’s the truly insane part: From the story: > [@](#): > > Steinmetz’s minor son was also armed He lets his _kid_ carry a gun. A real gun. You know what? I used to be kind of open-minded about the gun issue, but now I think it’s time to repeal the Second Amendment. No more arguments about what it means or what it permits or what state laws should allow or not allow, or who should be able to carry a concealed gun or an openly displayed gun. Let’s just repeal the fucking amendment. Or amend it. Let people have their hunting weapons and shotguns, and carry them when they’re hunting. And that’s all. No handguns, no walking around streets and airports scaring the shit out of children, no more. Let’s be done with it. ---
**Author:** ![abatementyogin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@abatementyogin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abatementyogin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4213 "2014-08-19T01:35:55Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > Holy shit. What a loon. I’d feel safer if this asshole was locked up for the rest of his life. Or at least for the rest of my life. > > The story to which you link says that the lunatic was arrested in an earlier incident in which he went to the airport with a loaded gun. > > Here’s the truly insane part: > > From the story: > > He lets his _kid_ carry a gun. A real gun. > > You know what? I used to be kind of open-minded about the gun issue, but now I think it’s time to repeal the Second Amendment. No more arguments about what it means or what it permits or what state laws should allow or not allow, or who should be able to carry a concealed gun or an openly displayed gun. > > Let’s just repeal the fucking amendment. Or amend it. Let people have their hunting weapons and shotguns, and carry them when they’re hunting. And that’s all. No handguns, no walking around streets and airports scaring the shit out of children, no more. > > Let’s be done with it. Just copy paste Canadian laws which are perfect. Require licensing, training and safe storage. This creates accountability. Gun culture is by far the biggest problem. Lots of guns up here but people respect them far more. It is possible to have lots of guns and little crime committed with them, Iceland, Norway, Finland, Canada, Switzerland, and Austria being good examples. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4214 "2014-08-19T19:47:44Z")
You people don’t realize how important guns are to protect against home invasion. For example here is a 63 year grandmother who critically injured an intruder she thought broke into her home: > **[Woman shoots grandson; thought he was an intruder](http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/10402099/Woman-shoots-grandson-thought-he-was-an-intruder)** > > Grandmother shoots and critically wounds her 7-year-old grandson after mistaking him for an intruder who had broken into her home. Minor point–it turned out to be her 7 year old grandson. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4215 "2014-08-19T20:52:02Z")
> [@abatementyogin](#): > > Require licensing, training and safe storage. This creates accountability. Sounds good, but I really wish it would be mandated as a _consequence_ of owning guns, not as a prerequisite. The big difference in the US is the presumption that possessing weapons is a fundamental right that can only be compromised for narrow and specific purposes. Or as one pro-gun bumper sticker puts it: “Free men don’t ask permission to bear arms”. > [@](#): > > Gun culture is by far the biggest problem. In the narrow sense that a lot of people really don’t want to give up owning guns, and that makes it hard to ban them. People look at gun crime statistics and think that if only you could just get rid of guns, that would solve the problem. The flaw in that is that there are really two gun cultures in the US: the middle-class one and the lower-class one. Gun crime and violence is not randomly distributed throughout the population. The middle class has relatively little problem with guns, while the misuse of firearms is concentrated in the poor, minorities, habitual criminals and chemically dependent people. Yet since as long as guns are legal the dysfunctional will misuse them, gun control advocates go after the low-hanging fruit of the law-abiding. This is like Prohibitionists saying nobody can have a drink since as long as alcohol was legal there would be skid-row bums passed out in the gutter. The law-abiding and responsible HATE being held collectively guilty along with the worst of society. > [@](#): > > Lots of guns up here but people respect them far more. It is possible to have lots of guns and little crime committed with them, Iceland, Norway, Finland, Canada, Switzerland, and Austria being good examples. 🙂 And by every statistic, the US has more _non-gun_ crime, violence, and other social problems than those countries. My home state of Minnesota has a gun crime rate comparable to Canada’s, despite firearms being easier to obtain. If Minnesota and other low-crime states could secede from the US, we’d be oasis’s of peace, while the worst states would look more like Columbia. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4216 "2014-08-19T22:43:02Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > You people don’t realize how important guns are to protect against home invasion. For example here is a 63 year grandmother who critically injured an intruder she thought broke into her home: > [Stuff](http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/10402099/Woman-shoots-grandson-thought-he-was-an-intruder) > > Minor point–it turned out to be her 7 year old grandson. Blame it on the anti-gun liberals. In a sane world the 7-year old would be armed and could have stood his ground. [Many Americans would applaud cops’ decision to kill a black man holding a toy gun](http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/crime-law/family-of-man-shot-at-walmart-wants-answers-survei/ngzT4/), but he should have been armed with a real gun. [In Tulsa, an unarmed teenager is shot for the crime of dating a white cop’s daughter while Black](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oklahoma-cop-charged-with-killing-daughters-boyfriend/). Even if that’s a capital felony, he deserved a formal lynch mob rather than a drive-by killing. If he’d been armed he could have shot the father preemptively. More and more news stories like this, but the trend is clear. America obviously needs more guns. > [@Lumpy](#): > > while the misuse of firearms is concentrated in the poor, minorities, habitual criminals and chemically dependent people. 😕 Forget to mention cops in your list? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4217 "2014-08-24T03:31:50Z")
Here’s a 3 year old boy who found a gun and shot himself in the head–and is in critical condition: > **[Boy, 3, Shot In Head In Apparent Accident](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/juvenile-shot-in-west-garfield-park/)** > > Chicago police say the boy discovered a loaded gun, which went off while he or a playmate was handling it. You might think the father would be distraught with grief, a constant vigil at the hospital. You would be wrong: the father ran off with the gun. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4218 "2014-08-25T15:46:33Z")
Yes, you can always trust a trained law enforcement officer to use his gun responsibly. That must be why Georgia restored [this one’s](http://http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/08/25/3475106/georgia-restores-gun-rights-to-ex-cop-who-tried-to-sexually-assault-a-woman-with-his-gun/)gun rights after using his to sodomize a woman who had called in a domestic assault by her husband. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4219 "2014-08-26T22:23:59Z")
Isn’t it great that 9 year old girls can find a place to fire automatic weapons? I mean, how fun is that? And I’m sure that nothing bad would happen. A 9 year old is plenty strong and experienced enough to handle the recoil from such a weapon. [Right? Right?](http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/08/26/nine-year-old-girl-accidentally-kills-arizona-shooting-instructor-with-an-uzi-police-say/) ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4220 "2014-08-26T22:59:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Isn’t it great that 9 year old girls can find a place to fire automatic weapons? I mean, how fun is that? > > And I’m sure that nothing bad would happen. A 9 year old is plenty strong and experienced enough to handle the recoil from such a weapon. > > [Right? Right?](http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/08/26/nine-year-old-girl-accidentally-kills-arizona-shooting-instructor-with-an-uzi-police-say/) I really wish she’d taken out her parents as well, who were no doubt proudly watching their baby girl get her Rambo on. I mean WTF!!! Can someone explain how a recoiling gun can kill someone? I can’t picture what happened. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=210) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=212)