# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 217
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4321 "2014-12-26T18:35:05Z")
[Getting shot can actually be good for you:](http://medinagazette.northcoastnow.com/2014/12/26/77-year-old-grazed-birdshot-pellet-becomes-blessing-disguise/) > [@](#): > > After Charlene Ross was taken to the hospital Sunday from being struck in the neck with a “birdshot” pellet from a shotgun fired accidentally by her 77-year-old husband, Boyd, doctors found she had a previously undiscovered heart problem — an arrhythmia, or irregular heartbeat. But it gets better: > [@](#): > > “There is no question that this has been a blessing on two fronts,” said Charlene’s son, Steve Ross. “One is that only one pellet nicked her out of the shotgun blast Yes, that’s a blessing, all right. :rolleyes: Maybe someday it will dawn on you that there’s a double curse, too - that your father is an irresponsible dumbass, and that he’s allowed to have the means by which to almost kill your mother. > [@](#): > > “You hate to use clichés but this is a Christmas miracle.” No, wait, there’s a third curse - that you’re as dumb as your daddy. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4322 "2014-12-27T00:12:45Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Um, there’s at least one key, fundamental difference. Can you spot it? No; what? ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4323 "2014-12-29T19:03:20Z")
I was thinking “another stupid gun idiot” when I read: > [@](#): > > Iowa officials are investigating the accidental shooting death of a hunter. > The Tama County Sheriff’s Office received a call just before 8 a.m. Saturday reporting a hunting accident in rural Traer. > Tama County officials say three members of a family were preparing to go muzzleloader hunting for deer when a gun discharged, killing the person who was loading the gun. [http://www.cbs2iowa.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/man-dies-hunting-accident-32840.shtml](http://www.cbs2iowa.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/man-dies-hunting-accident-32840.shtml) My reaction quite changed when I read the followup: > [@](#): > > UPDATE: The Traer community is grieving a young girl killed in a hunting accident over the weekend. > > 12 year-old Liesel Casto was killed on Saturday when she was loading a muzzleloader. [http://www.kwwl.com/story/27714497/2014/12/27/update-iowa-dnr-confirms-fatal-hunting-accident-saturday](http://www.kwwl.com/story/27714497/2014/12/27/update-iowa-dnr-confirms-fatal-hunting-accident-saturday) Instead it was her scumbag relatives who couldn’t be bothered to teach a young girl proper gun handling techniques. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4324 "2014-12-29T19:16:33Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Instead it was her scumbag relatives who couldn’t be bothered to teach a young girl proper gun handling techniques. Maybe they don’t know much about guns themselves. It’s not like they own a gun store. [Oh, wait…](http://www.traerstarclipper.com/page/content.detail/id/520613/Casto-Armory-open-for-business.html?nav=5011#sthash.cDOnKouQ.dpuf) > [@](#): > > Joshua and Joie Casto are the owners of The Casto Armory. The Casto Armory specializes in modern and custom made muzzleloaders. We furnish supplies and accoutrements for muzzleloaders. We also offer a full line of custom muzzleloader bullets. > > Josh has been gunsmithing part-time for 22 years and has decided to make it a career. Josh has built many custom guns from automatic pistols to custom side lock muzzleloaders. He is a certified muzzleloader and rifle instructor. > > Josh is very familiar with needs of competitive shooters, hunters, and recreational shooters. He has been active in shooting sports both as a competitor and a coach. He is currently a coach with the Tama County 4-H Club in rifle and muzzleloader disciplines. > > Josh is originally from Ohio and is married to Joie (Staker) Casto. They have a son, Connor, and a daughter, Liesel, who are also very active in shooting sports. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4325 "2014-12-29T19:26:18Z")
Then maybe it was quite simply an accident, the kind that happens no matter how careful and experienced you are, the way carpenters occasionally lose fingers to circular saws. Regrettable but it’s gonna’ happen from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2014, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4326 "2014-12-30T00:09:37Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Then maybe it was quite simply an accident, the kind that happens no matter how careful and experienced you are, the way carpenters occasionally lose fingers to circular saws. Regrettable but it’s gonna’ happen from time to time. When was the last time a carpenter brought his 12-year-old daughter to a construction site and lost _her_ finger? ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4327 "2014-12-30T21:27:08Z")
US woman accidentally shot dead by boy, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart > **[US woman accidentally shot dead by son, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30636326)** > > A woman in the US state of Idaho is killed after her two-year-old son accidentally shot her with a gun he took from her handbag in a Wal-Mart store. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4328 "2014-12-30T21:59:25Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > US woman accidentally shot dead by boy, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart > > [US woman accidentally shot dead by son, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30636326) Means nothing. That two-year-old could just as easily have beaten her to death with a baseball bat. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2014, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4329 "2014-12-30T22:02:50Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Means nothing. That two-year-old could just as easily have beaten her to death with a baseball bat. Or an alcohol. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4330 "2014-12-30T22:24:15Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Means nothing. That two-year-old could just as easily have beaten her to death with a baseball bat. Or a swimming pool. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2014, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4331 "2014-12-30T22:50:53Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > US woman accidentally shot dead by boy, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart > > [US woman accidentally shot dead by son, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30636326) It looks like the proposal up thread for mandatory gun safety classes will have to be extended to nursery school :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4332 "2014-12-31T08:37:08Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > US woman accidentally shot dead by boy, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart > > [US woman accidentally shot dead by son, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30636326) Here are a few common sense principles to live by: If your handbag contains a knife or other sharp object, don’t leave it within reach of your two year-old. If your handbag contains a can of mace, don’t leave it within reach of your two year-old. If your handbag contains a fucking LOADED HANDGUN, DO NOT leave it within reach of your two year-old. That poor child’s life is ruined. Forever.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4333 "2014-12-31T12:23:05Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > US woman accidentally shot dead by boy, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart > > [US woman accidentally shot dead by son, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30636326) 2 year olds are out of control nowadays! -or- Sooner or later Darwin gonna getya Sooner or later Darwin gonna getya ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4334 "2014-12-31T16:59:48Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > US woman accidentally shot dead by boy, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart > > [US woman accidentally shot dead by son, two, in Idaho Wal-Mart - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30636326) I just noticed the story here: [http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/walmart-shooting-mum-veronica-j-4896721#rlabs=3](http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/walmart-shooting-mum-veronica-j-4896721#rlabs=3) Interesting that it shows up on British media. Perhaps it’s too routine to grab the attention of U.S. media. Moral of the story? While it was smart of the parents to give their 2-year old a gun, he should have been enrolled in better gun-safety classes. (Some will say kids should wait to age four or five to learn guns, but with 3- and 4-year olds being shot down by older siblings routinely, how can it be too young to learn to practice self-defense?) ---
**Author:** ![Boggette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@Boggette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boggette)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4335 "2014-12-31T17:34:40Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Means nothing. That two-year-old could just as easily have beaten her to death with a baseball bat. _snerk_ To quote Archie Bunker, “Would you feel better, little girl, if they was pushed outta windows?” ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4336 "2014-12-31T18:38:34Z")
There is a long Straightdope thread on the 2 year old shooting his mother: > **[How is this possible? (Mother shot by toddler at Walmart)](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=744929)** > > http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2014/12/30/22156436.html Long story short, it seems that a two-year-old reached into their mom’s purse, pulled out a handgun, fired it and killed the mom. Now I’ve fired handguns a couple times at indoor shooting... where interesting facts that were pointed out including that she was a scientist and she was carrying the gun in a new purse (with a concealed weapon pocket) that her husband had just gotten her for Chistmas–which he thought would be more comfortable than wearing the gun nestled at her side). ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4337 "2015-01-01T02:25:21Z")
That’s all very well but it doesn’t the fact that putting a handbag with a gun in it next to a toddler is no more dangerous than putting a handbag with a car in it next to one, and we still have cars, amiright or amiright? ---
**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4338 "2015-01-01T20:14:29Z")
An example of careless/wreckless use of firearm(s) in Houston: Whilst a husband/wife were standing outside their home watching fireworks, the husband suddenly fell to ground dead of bullet wound to top of head. The couple were basically just standing there in their yard, then death-from-above from who knows where (and WHY???) Here’s a link to a ['summary’](http://www.newser.com/story/200704/celebratory-bullet-kills-guy-watching-new-years-fireworks.html)which contains links to two other sites for probably better details. I _hate_ when folks fire aimlessly into air. You do NOT pull any trigger unless you know your downrange area is clear of others. FUCK, I hate that kind of crap that mindless idiots do, often while hooting and hollering like they are orgasmic. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4339 "2015-01-01T20:24:42Z")
> [@Ionizer](#): > > An example of careless/wreckless use of firearm(s) in Houston: Whilst a husband/wife were standing outside their home watching fireworks, the husband suddenly fell to ground dead of bullet wound to top of head. The couple were basically just standing there in their yard, then death-from-above from who knows where (and WHY???) Here’s a link to a ['summary’](http://www.newser.com/story/200704/celebratory-bullet-kills-guy-watching-new-years-fireworks.html)which contains links to two other sites for probably better details. > > I _hate_ when folks fire aimlessly into air. You do NOT pull any trigger unless you know your downrange area is clear of others. FUCK, I hate that kind of crap that mindless idiots do, often while hooting and hollering like they are orgasmic. If you are saying that the bullet came from someone firing into the air and that the wound was on top of his head, none of the stories say this. They only say that he died of a head wound from a stray bullet. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4340 "2015-01-02T01:50:42Z")
Some of you people don’t seem to realize that accidents can happen to anyone–even police chiefs: > [@](#): > > The wife of Peachtree City’s police chief remained in critical condition Thursday evening after being shot by her husband in the couple’s home just before daybreak. Police chief William McCollom, called 911 shortly after 4 a.m. to report that he’d accidentally shot his wife, said GBI spokeswoman Sherry Lang. > > Margaret McCollom, 58, was airlifted from her home on Autumn Leaf to Atlanta Medical Center where she was in critical condition Thursday evening. The shot was fired from the chief’s service weapon, which Peachtree City police Lt. Mark Brown identified as a Glock 17 9 millimeter. > > The police chief, who in cooperating with the investigation, was questioned by the GBI on Thursday. Later in the day, he went to the hospital to be with his wife, according to Channel 2 Action News. [http://www.ajc.com/news/news/peachtree-city-police-chiefs-wife-shot-and-critica/njdy2/](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/peachtree-city-police-chiefs-wife-shot-and-critica/njdy2/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=216) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=218)