# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 222
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4421 "2015-01-22T18:23:32Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Freedom is not a one-way street. Nor is it a cul-de-sac. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4422 "2015-01-22T18:43:09Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Nor is it a cul-de-sac. I’m not sure if I understand your metaphor. **eschereal** is saying that every “freedom” comes with a concomitant _responsibilty_ Thus Freedom goes one way, and “responsibility” goes the other way, so to speak. What does your metaphor of a “cul-de-sac” mean? Do you feel that the freedom to own a firearm does not come with any responsibilities? That the responsibilities should not be imposed by an outside authority (like they are with any number of other “freedoms” in our society - eg. the freedom to operate heavy machinery or a commercial truck, the freedom to open a business as a dentist… etc all come with externally imposed responsibilities.) ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4423 "2015-01-22T19:28:34Z")
> **[Man jailed for shooting dead friend wearing 'bullet-proof' vest](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11350650/Man-jailed-for-shooting-dead-friend-wearing-bullet-proof-vest.html)** > > Lorry driver Ian Catley locked up for killing Philip Harper - who was wearing what he believed was a bullet-proof vest - with shotgun in Cambridgeshire field Or for shooting friend dead, in bullet proof vest test. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4424 "2015-01-22T20:06:57Z")
> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#): > > [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11350650/Man-jailed-for-shooting-dead-friend-wearing-bullet-proof-vest.html](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11350650/Man-jailed-for-shooting-dead-friend-wearing-bullet-proof-vest.html) > > Or for shooting friend dead, in bullet proof vest test. > [@](#): > > the judge ordered that [Catley’s] gun be forfeited and destroyed. Kenyo-Nazi gun grabbers. No wonder Britain lost its Empire, W.W. II and the World Cup. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4425 "2015-01-22T21:43:12Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > same shit, different day, > Admittedly, children shooting themselves or a sibling is a statistical insignificance. I would be more concerned about the drooling adults who let it happen. If they are insignificant, it doesn’t make much sense to care how those incidents occurred. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4426 "2015-01-22T21:45:47Z")
Man, if ONLY they’d ease up on the glovebox-loaded gun-totin’ breeders, the sun never would have set on their Empire !!! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4427 "2015-01-22T23:39:14Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > If they are insignificant, it doesn’t make much sense to care how those incidents occurred. 😕 The thread is “ **Stupid** Gun news of the day”, statistical significance is not at issue. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4428 "2015-01-23T03:21:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’m not sure if I understand your metaphor. No metaphor intended, sorry. I just like the imagery of the word and got carried away. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4429 "2015-02-01T11:53:26Z")
3 yr old fires once, hits both parents! Now that’s some shooting I’m sure we can all be proud of. He didn’t shoot at his 2 yrs old sister, who was in the same room. > **[3-year-old boy shoots father, pregnant mother in New Mexico | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2015/02/01/us/new-mexico-toddler-shoots-parents/index.html)** > > A 3-year-old boy shot his father and pregnant mother over the weekend inside a hotel room in Albuquerque, New Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4430 "2015-02-01T12:55:22Z")
Not everyone’s proud. Since the 3 year old failed to eliminate the Primary and Secondary Targets, he failed his mission. No scholarship for him to the NRA’s " Shots For Tots " summercamp !!! ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4431 "2015-02-01T17:57:34Z")
> [@](#): > > The handgun was purchased the day before by the mother as, according to local police, the boy’s father is not legally allowed to have a firearm because he has a felony conviction… > > The couple could now face felony negligence charges according to Albuquerque Police Department Officer Simon Drobik, **who added that the child would not face criminal charges**. > **[Toddler (3) shoots father and pregnant mother with handgun found in purse](https://www.independent.ie/world-news/toddler-3-shoots-father-and-pregnant-mother-with-handgun-found-in-purse/30954768.html)** > > A 3-year-old boy in New Mexico has shot and wounded his father and pregnant mother. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4432 "2015-02-01T18:09:53Z")
Obviously the problem is not guns, it’s the media. They report a kid shooting his mom, another one shoots his dad, then not only do you have another copycat but this one escalates by shooting both parents. Leave the guns alone and cut down on irresponsible reporting. Problem solved! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4433 "2015-02-01T19:33:50Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > 3 yr old fires once, hits both parents! Now that’s some shooting I’m sure we can all be proud of. He didn’t shoot at his 2 yrs old sister, who was in the same room. > [http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/01/us/new-mexico-toddler-shoots-parents/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/01/us/new-mexico-toddler-shoots-parents/index.html) The 2 year old should have been carrying. She probably could have taken out her brother before he could get of the shot. Got him in the arm or something. I blame the gun-grabbers for this. More guns in the household would have solved this. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4434 "2015-02-01T20:59:43Z")
there is the diaper holster. for those that like to be doubly loaded. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4435 "2015-02-02T00:26:05Z")
This thread is an incredible 2 fucking years old. And you know what? The relentless cycle of horrific fucking useless unnecessary deaths is as painful, as draining, as numbing as it was the day this thread was started. Fucking gun-waving asshole fucknugget dick-swinging testosterone-spurting sub-humans. All of this blood. All of this death. Younger and younger, older and older. Apparently there are no limits. The gore and blood flows freely and the barrel-suckers laugh and stumble on, jacking in another speedloader or freshly loaded mag as they go. Fucking murderers. Fuck them all. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4436 "2015-02-02T00:51:52Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > there is the diaper holster. for those that like to be doubly loaded. I like a nice pair of tactical pull-ups. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4437 "2015-02-02T01:07:28Z")
> [@](#): > > … Albuquerque Police Department Officer Simon Drobik, who added that the child would not face criminal charges. Good thing Albuquerque isn’t one of these places with gun-hating leftist prosecutors who’d have been happy to charge the young super-hero with felony attempted murder. It’s really just the victim’s word against that of the two attackers he put down; I don’t know if he has made a statement to the poloice yet, but it seems a fair assumption that he would be protected under either self-defense or SYG laws. God-fearing patriotic Americans all hope that the young sharpshooter, putting down two assailants with a single bullet, becomes a role model for America’s children. Is it hard to imagine that he realized he wouldn’t have the muscle strength to control the gun for a second firing, and so chose to put all his skill into one marvelous dare-devil shot? God Bless America! ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4438 "2015-02-02T02:15:49Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > dick-swinging testosterone-spurting sub-humans. Even woman gun owners? ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4439 "2015-02-02T02:35:33Z")
Touché. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4440 "2015-02-04T17:08:05Z")
This is ever so slightly right just on the edge of stupid: [St. Petersburg police say it is entirely legal for Joseph Carannante to use his yard, in a residential neighborhood, for a gun range](http://www.wfla.com/story/27997914/st-pete-man-builds-gun-range-in-yard-neighbors-outraged). Mr. Carannante says that he will advise his neighbors when he will be shooting, I guess so they can gather their children and hide them in their basements. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=221) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=223)