# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 223
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4441 "2015-02-04T17:23:32Z")
Surely such a thing couldn’t happen in _Florida_, right!? ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4442 "2015-02-05T00:35:36Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > This is ever so slightly right just on the edge of stupid: [St. Petersburg police say it is entirely legal for Joseph Carannante to use his yard, in a residential neighborhood, for a gun range](http://www.wfla.com/story/27997914/st-pete-man-builds-gun-range-in-yard-neighbors-outraged). Mr. Carannante says that he will advise his neighbors when he will be shooting, I guess so they can gather their children and hide them in their basements. I’m amazed there isn’t _something_ that would get in the way of this. Noise laws; attractive nuisance rules; something. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4443 "2015-02-05T19:02:35Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Right. > > A simple question like: > > “Are you in favour of regulations to control who can drive a car?” > > Is a “secret attack” > > Only because it shows how stupid the position of unrestricted access to guns without regulations is. > > Carry on. Did I miss the part of the conversation where someone advocated eliminating all the gun regulations that are already in place at the federal state and local levels? Guns are one of the most regulated legal products on the market. I happen think licenses and gun registration is a good idea because it helps reduce the flow of guns into the hands of criminals through straw purchases. But I understand why some gun enthusiasts resist the idea. Too many of the anti-gun folks want to impose regulations to create barriers to legal gun ownership and ultimately they just want to ban guns entirely. I don’t worry about that because I don’t think we are EVER going to repeal the 2nd amendment or ban/confiscate guns at the federal level. I think that Democrats hurt themselves when pander to the anti-gun crowd too much ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4444 "2015-02-05T19:44:32Z")
> [@llcoolbj77](#): > > I worked at the NRA. One of my primary jobs was to take phone calls from concerned citizens about their rights’ in their respective states. What I really ended up doing was begging folks to please not bring their loaded firearms everywhere just to prove a point… it would not be the point we wanted proved, so to speak. No, really? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4445 "2015-02-05T19:46:30Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I’m amazed there isn’t _something_ that would get in the way of this. Noise laws; attractive nuisance rules; something. I can’t believe this is legal either. This is certainly a matter for local regulation but is Florida really this bad? ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4446 "2015-02-05T19:49:36Z")
Two points of stupidity from this page alone. 1. > [@Cartooniverse](#): > > If **Lumpy** can provide some cites for the concept that Messrs. Daimler and Benz created one of the first, if not THE first, workable manufactured automobile with the sole and expressed purpose of murdering other people with it, then the argument is quite valid. > > However, I do feel it’s highly unlikely that this cite exists. On the OTHER hand, I for one would love to see some cites proving that firearms were created for the sole purpose of perfecting target shooting. Ever heard of an “excluded middle”? Or are you not familiar with the idea that firearms can be used to kill things that aren’t human? To use your phrasing, please provide some cites that John Moses Browning developed the lever-action rifle with the sole and expressed purpose of murdering people with it. His model 1894 design is the [“best-selling high-powered rifle in U.S. history”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1894) and has likely killed millions of white-tailed deer and somewhat less than millions of people. 1. > [@Lumpy](#): > > Ok, so now we know where you stand. You want to know why gun owners seem paranoid? Speak for yourself. I’m a gun owner and am not at all paranoid. When we adopted our son I happily provided the State of Wisconsin with a list of all the guns I own. Make, model, and serial number. Didn’t even think twice about it. Registration, licensing, legal responsibility for securing your firearms, these all sound fine by me. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4447 "2015-02-06T09:50:29Z")
No fair you’re being levelheaded. ---
**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4448 "2015-02-06T10:42:34Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > This thread is an incredible 2 fucking years old. And you know what? The relentless cycle of horrific fucking useless unnecessary deaths is as painful, as draining, as numbing as it was the day this thread was started. > > Fucking gun-waving asshole fucknugget dick-swinging testosterone-spurting sub-humans. > > All of this blood. All of this death. Younger and younger, older and older. Apparently there are no limits. The gore and blood flows freely and the barrel-suckers laugh and stumble on, jacking in another speedloader or freshly loaded mag as they go. > > Fucking murderers. > > Fuck them all. And yet, somehow, among all the carnage life goes on. Yesterday, more than 320 million people in the USA narrowly avoided being shot. More than 320 million people just barely dodged the hail of bullets the day before that, and in the month prior, 320 million souls ran with ragged breaths through my butts of splintering lead and the staccato crack-crack-crack that echo across every American street and somehow managed to stumble past their own thresholds with all of their original blood. God willing, tomorrow evening 320 million souls will again see their own beds with no more than a handful of minor flesh wounds. I’m still cleaning my neighbor’s blood off my kevlar vest. Thank God it’s Friday. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4449 "2015-02-06T11:30:21Z")
It’s comforting to know that I’m not alone voice in the wilderness. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4450 "2015-02-06T17:35:34Z")
> [@Stealth\_Potato](#): > > And yet, somehow, among all the carnage life goes on. Yesterday, more than 320 million people in the USA narrowly avoided being shot. More than 320 million people just barely dodged the hail of bullets the day before that, and in the month prior, 320 million souls ran with ragged breaths through my butts of splintering lead and the staccato crack-crack-crack that echo across every American street and somehow managed to stumble past their own thresholds with all of their original blood. God willing, tomorrow evening 320 million souls will again see their own beds with no more than a handful of minor flesh wounds. I’m still cleaning my neighbor’s blood off my kevlar vest. Thank God it’s Friday. Short version: It’s not me getting shot, or anyone I know personally… so to hell with them. Shorter version: “Whatever. Not in my [monkeysphere](http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html) man.” ---
**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4451 "2015-02-07T04:29:53Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Short version: It’s not me getting shot, or anyone I know personally… so to hell with them. > > Shorter version: “Whatever. Not in my [monkeysphere](http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html) man.” No, I was just mocking the ridiculous hyperbole. Don’t read too much into it. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4452 "2015-02-08T02:15:04Z")
It’s time to reset the “Days since the last mass shooting” counter. Five dead, two wounded in suburban Atlanta. The shooter is among the dead. > **[5 dead, including gunman, at Atlanta-area home | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2015/02/07/us/georgia-seven-shot/index.html)** > > A gunman killed at least four people, including a 7-year-old, and then himself Saturday at a home in suburban Atlanta, authorities said. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4453 "2015-02-08T03:15:48Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > It’s time to reset the “Days since the last mass shooting” counter. Five dead, two wounded in suburban Atlanta. The shooter is among the dead. > > [http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/07/us/georgia-seven-shot/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/07/us/georgia-seven-shot/index.html) **Steath Potato** was not among them, so it’s all good. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4454 "2015-02-08T06:16:41Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > It’s time to reset the “Days since the last mass shooting” counter. Five dead, two wounded in suburban Atlanta. The shooter is among the dead. > > [http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/07/us/georgia-seven-shot/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/07/us/georgia-seven-shot/index.html) None of this will make the slightest difference. Paranoid NRA members will just respond by adding to their stockpile of security guns. These guy have advanced way beyond normal thought patterns: they can only think of themselves and their own precious posteriors. And let’s not pretend they have any sort of concern for their friends and loved ones. No: gun ownership is all about homicidal fantasies. Indeed they believe their kids are lucky if they get away with beatings: it beats a bullet in their head by Dad after all. That’s what guns are for. [Cite](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nra-board-member-texas-bullet-in-kid). I’m not attacking the NRA in this post: I’m just making a calm reasoned description of their perspective and mentality, along with a contrast between them and normal people. Statistically speaking. ---
**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4455 "2015-02-08T06:24:15Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > **Steath Potato** was not among them, so it’s all good. Yep, that’s exactly it. By sarcastically pointing out that our country of three hundred and twenty million people isn’t quite the constant bloodbath **Cartooniverse** seems to think it is, I am in fact only observing that I’m happy as long as I’m not personally a victim of gun violence. I applaud your insight and reading comprehension. Also, I masturbate with my guns while fantasizing about murder. In fact, I have one in my pants right now. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4456 "2015-02-08T12:32:05Z")
Thank you, **Measureformeasure**. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4457 "2015-02-08T21:25:09Z")
Well I’ll admit that I found Stealth Potato’s posts to be hilarious. I guess I’ve passed through denial, anger, bargaining and depression and entered the stage of sick humor. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4458 "2015-02-08T22:09:52Z")
[Charles Cotton](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/02/08/3620615/nra-corporal-punishment-texas/) thinks that beating kids is OK because it’s better than “having to put a bullet in him later.” Who is Charles Cotton I hear you ask? In a stunning development, it turns out that in fact he’s actually a True Scotsman aka he sits on the board of the NRA. ---
**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4459 "2015-02-08T22:12:33Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > I guess I’ve passed through denial, anger, bargaining and depression and entered the stage of sick humor. The five stages of recreational outrage? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/4460 "2015-02-10T06:03:51Z")
this one is not exactly stupid, but it is sad and unfortunate > [@"\[the](#): > > ([Oregon gun store owner tried to block troubled woman from buying gun - oregonlive.com](http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/04/oregon_gun_store_owner_tried_t.html))"] > Maria Ward doesn’t judge her customers. Americans have a right to buy firearms, after all. But this woman seemed traumatized. Ward worried she planned to hurt someone. “I’m sorry,” Ward told her. “I’m not going to sell you a firearm.” > > Ward, who owns the Gresham gun store with her husband, then … warned the Oregon State Police not to allow anyone else to sell Brenda Nyhof Dunn a gun. But the agency … told Ward there was nothing it could do under the law. > > The next day, Nyhof Dunn drove to Dick’s Sporting Goods in … bought a rifle and ammunition … paid $10 to have the Oregon State Police perform a background check, which she easily passed. Hours later, she fatally shot herself. > > Oregon and federal law prohibits people from buying firearms if they’ve been involuntarily committed by a court … No restrictions apply to people like Nyhof Dunn, whose battles with bipolar disorder and major depression drove her to voluntarily enter residential psychiatric care 13 times in the final year of her life. The month she died, Multnomah County sheriff’s deputies visited her home after she told a 9-1-1 operator she planned to hang herself in her parents’ barn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=222) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=224)