# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5081 "2015-07-13T21:37:16Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And has enabled many \*more \*to get killed. Right?

If guns ever were banned, and some machete-wielding psycho on PCP was kicking down your door, would your last thoughts be of all the people you saved by opposing guns?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5082 "2015-07-13T21:51:43Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> If guns ever were banned, and some machete-wielding psycho on PCP was kicking down your door, would your last thoughts be of all the people you saved by opposing guns?

Of course. What would you be fantasizing about?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5083 "2015-07-13T23:33:51Z")

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Still waiting to hear about why you don’t own a gun, ElvisL1ves. Why, to the interested observer, it really is starting to look like you are an evasive, disingenuous mound of dung.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5084 "2015-07-14T12:27:11Z")

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You use too many words when one will do: CHICKENSHIT.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5085 "2015-07-14T13:16:14Z")

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Yes. Everyone who doesn’t own a gun, and who doesn’t recognize the fact that a machete wielding maniac will probably kick down their door any second now is an obvious chicken-shit. Good call, Captain Paranoia.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5086 "2015-07-14T13:17:27Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> You use too many words when one will do: CHICKENSHIT.

Wiat, the guy who is able to go out in the world without arming himself is the chickenshit?

Naw. The real pussies are the ones who are petrified about things that don’t strike such fear into the majority of people. Most men, women and children who can successfully go to places like a department store without fear.

A minority of mostly fat, white middle aged men are unable to do this without getting themselves extra protection. I’m certainly sorry that you’re such a pussy, but i do not like that your panic puts the rest of us at risk.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5087 "2015-07-14T13:20:45Z")

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Who’s panicking? Who’s going to department stores not feeling safe unless they’re armed? Don’t lump me in with gun nuts who do.

Elvis has been asked questions, only to avoid them and hide behind mama’s skirt. **That** is chickenshit.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5088 "2015-07-14T13:30:03Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Yes. Everyone who doesn’t own a gun, and who doesn’t recognize the fact that a machete wielding maniac will probably kick down their door any second now is an obvious chicken-shit. Good call, Captain Paranoia.

Maybe we should take it easy on poor **Bullitt**. I mean, there’s nothing about **Bullitt** that suggests he is unduly fixated on compesating for his general sense of impotence in the world. What do we really know about **Bullitt** that would give us any sense that he has to project a facade of strength and power? It isn’t like **Bullitt** did anything when joining this board that would suggest he needs other people to see him as quite the rough customer. Not **Bullitt**.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5089 "2015-07-14T13:47:15Z")

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Was there a question in there somewhere? Or are you going to hide behind your keyboard?

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5090 "2015-07-14T13:54:20Z")

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I think **Bullitt** is calling me out! Are we supposed to meet at high noon somewhere?

Wow! You ARE a rough customer whose name in real life must be **Bullitt**!

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5091 "2015-07-14T14:00:08Z")

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Yeah I thought there was a chance you’d react that way. Maybe you’re the one who is paranoid and feels unsafe?

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5092 "2015-07-14T14:13:46Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> Yeah I thought there was a chance you’d react that way. Maybe you’re the one who is paranoid and feels unsafe?

You’re anonymously calling for someone to step outside on an internet message board. Don’t you realize that this makes you look pretty stupid, in addition to being a giant poser, **Bullitt**?

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5093 "2015-07-14T14:19:45Z")

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No to both. I guess you didn’t have a question after all. Go away.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5094 "2015-07-14T14:52:41Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> No to both. I guess you didn’t have a question after all. Go away.

Anything you say. Just please stop being so darn intimidating! Yikes!

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5095 "2015-07-14T15:27:28Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Geez what kind of life do you lead where the people who break into your house are armed with knives and baseball bats and breaking in with the specific intent to doing you harm. If I happen to be on the mobs hit list than yes I agree I want to be armed. But if I’m just an average person than chances are they want to steal some stuff and get out ASAP particularly if they know the cops are on the way.

There are entire neighorhoods in almost every city in this country where this is a real concern for many people.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5096 "2015-07-14T15:30:10Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> There are entire neighorhoods in almost every city in this country where this is a real concern for many people.

And then there are suburbs in every city where pudgy white guys are arming themselves to the teeth in fear that _those people_ who live in those city neighborhoods will attack at any minute.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5097 "2015-07-14T15:31:57Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Already done, many many times, as you fucking well know. Of course, nothing can get through your wall of fear, can it?

You’re wrong. You’ve never proven that banning guns would lead to fewer murders. Not even close.

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> Now, when are you going to tell us what rate of murders should be “acceptable” (your own choice of word)? You’ve told us multiple times that there is one, but not what it is. So, what is it?

When did I say murder were acceptable? I think you might be confusing me with someone else.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5098 "2015-07-14T15:33:17Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And has enabled many \*more \*to get killed. Right?

And how many of those guns were fired by people who were legally allowed to own a gun? And of those, how many would have a gun anyway even if guns were illegal?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5099 "2015-07-14T15:34:35Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> If guns ever were banned, and some machete-wielding psycho on PCP was kicking down your door, would your last thoughts be of all the people you saved by opposing guns?

It is mot likely that the rate of criminal gun use would drop significantly because guns are illegal. Maybe over decades but not immediately and significantly.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5100 "2015-07-14T15:39:11Z")

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Your quasi-religious wall of fear insulates you from the world of fact and morality, I know. That would be your own problem if it didn’t contribute to the people-getting-killed problem, which you refuse to recognize exists.

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