# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 263
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5241 "2015-07-20T21:18:56Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > I’m asking you if you refuse to own a gun because you fear you would kill someone. I’ve asked you that many times without you answering. So, as I figure things, anybody you ask a question would be entirely within hir rights to just tell you to go fuck yourself. You don’t seem to get how the whole quid pro quo thing works, along with the mind boggling tonnage of other things you don’t get. Rape any toddlers today? ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5242 "2015-07-20T21:22:59Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > I wonder if there are enough gun owners who feel that gun ownership is a privilege and not a right? > > The NRA hard core members and 2nd amendment activists (extremists?) would never go for that. It was still the [Bill of Rights](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights) the last time I checked. Now if you can initiate a successful referendum to have it reclassified as the Bill of Privileges, you might have a point. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5243 "2015-07-20T21:50:06Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > That’s akin to saying that if you have a pulse, you can own a firearm. Do you really want your next door neighbors, and the people across the street, if they are people who have little regard for other people, are inconsiderate and sloppy and not careful with how they operate their weedwhacker (so, okay, they might injure themselves with that), do you really want such morons all owning firearms? > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I was asking how that is consistent with his claim that “The standards must be easily achieved by virtually anyone.” > > I’m asking YOU what YOUR standards are. It seems to depend on who’s asking. If you’re referring to the post below- > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I am all for improving safety and proficiency but only as long as it isn’t a back door way of restricting access. The standards must be easily achieved by virtually anyone. > > We should try to prevent accidental shooting fatalities but I am more concerned with the deliberate shooting fatalities. -I took him to mean that proficiency standards are fine, but not if they deliberately call for a ridiculously high level of mastery simply to deny as many people as possible; and that in any case it would do little to prevent premeditated shootings. I don’t believe he was referring to _mental health_ standards > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Perhaps people that have been diagnosed by a doctor with PTSD, but are on a long waiting list to receive help. > Like my nephew Christopher, who couldn’t get the help he needed after the military diagnosed him them discharged him, but who had no trouble getting a gun. He self-treated his PTSD on June 3oth. My condolences **Czarcasm** ; there have been calls for better mental-health screening but ironically that’s sparked a backlash against “stigmatizing” the mentally ill. And if the V.A.'s track record of imbecilic bureaucracy when it comes to determining who is and who isn’t a threat to themselves and others is any indication, such screening would probably be “imperfect”, to put it kindly. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5244 "2015-07-20T22:04:23Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Rape any toddlers today? No, I didn’t. I never have and don’t see myself ever doing that. I think it is evil. It is your buddy ElvisL1ves who is strangely reticent on the topic. Plus, of course, there is the fact that you are catastrophically retarded confusing things for you. Tertiary syphillis is a terrible thing. If only your father hadn’t had that penchant for visiting prostitutes on the sly… ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5245 "2015-07-21T19:08:27Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > What is clear is that you asserted “The standards must be easily achieved by virtually anyone.” With _no_ exceptions. I don’t know what “virtually everyone” means to you but in this context, “virtually everyone” means “almost everyone” or is this the first time you have heard the phrase virtually everyone? I have already said that I don’t think guns should be accessible for prohibited persons. I don’t get your misunderstanding unless the misunderstanding is deliberate (or you are a total moron). ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5246 "2015-07-21T20:18:23Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I don’t get your misunderstanding unless the misunderstanding is deliberate (or you are a total moron). Dishonesty and stupidity are both very safe bets when we are talking about ElvisL1ves. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5247 "2015-07-21T21:16:55Z")
[The patriots turn out to guard the Army](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/no-thanks-military-asks-armed-militiamen-to-go-away-and-stop-trying-to-guard-recruiting-centers): > [@](#): > > Armed men have taken up self-appointed sentry duty outside military recruitment centers after another armed man opened fire on a recruiting center and killed five in Chattanooga, Tennessee last week. > > The military has asked they not do so… > > In Iowa, some militiamen are hiding, ready to spring out in case of an attack, Kim Paulsen told local WHOTV… What could possibly go wrong? :dubious: :smack: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5248 "2015-07-22T00:23:04Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > What could possibly go wrong? :dubious: :smack: :eek: It already went wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5249 "2015-07-24T02:39:25Z")
Well, it’s time again to reset the “Days Since the Last Mass Shooting” counter. Two dead (including the shooter) and eight wounded in a theater in Louisiana. > **[Three Dead, 9 Injured After Gunman Opens Fire in Theater](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-killed-least-six-injured-louisiana-theater-shooting-n397586)** > > A gunman killed two people and wounded nine others after opening fire Thursday night at a movie theater in Lafayette, Louisiana, police said. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5250 "2015-07-24T12:06:36Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > It already went wrong. [Your prescience astounds me.](http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/07/23/recruiting-center-shot-fired.html) > [@](#): > > The armed civilians who have been guarding a military recruitment center here are gone, ordered off the property after one of them accidentally discharged his rifle on Thursday. > > … > I’m nobody special,” Reed said in a telephone interview on Thursday. “I’m just a guy doing my job because my own government wouldn’t do it.” > > Reed said he is not a military veteran. He described himself as an active gun enthusiast who makes a living working side jobs. > > He downplayed what happened. “It is what it is,” he said. “Nobody got hurt.” ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5251 "2015-07-24T12:34:09Z")
It was bound to happen. The guy is an idiot. Look, I was concerned after 9/11 when I saw armed National Guardsmen guarding the Golden Gate Bridge - they were carrying their rifles, but I could not tell if they also carried ammo. Seems silly to not carry ammo, but if they did have ammo then I was concerned about their training level. Were those guys infantry or otherwise field soldiers in combat MOSs who train regularly with their weapons? Or were they desk clerks, cooks and supply warehousemen who touched a rifle once, in boot camp? I remember being stationed at Treasure Island in San Francisco. One sailor was walking by, saw my weapon and said in wonderment, “Oh wow, is that an M-16? Can I look at that?” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5252 "2015-07-24T18:40:52Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Well, it’s time again to reset the “Days Since the Last Mass Shooting” counter. Two dead (including the shooter) and eight wounded in a theater in Louisiana. > > [Louisiana Theater Shooting: Gunman Opens Fire During 'Trainwreck' Screening](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-killed-least-six-injured-louisiana-theater-shooting-n397586) [And more . . .](http://www.thenation.com/article/bobby-jindal-does-louisiana-love-us-some-guns-now/) > [@](#): > > We love us some guns,” Bobby Jindal once said of his fellow Louisianans. Two of them were killed, and nine others wounded, on Thursday night when a man walked into a movie theater in Lafayette, sat for a while, and then fired more than a dozen rounds from a .40 caliber handgun. > > “We never imagined it would happen in Louisiana,” Jindal said afterward, though the state has the second-highest rate of gun deaths in the country, more than twice the national average. Louisiana also has some of the laxest firearm regulations, for which Jindal bears much responsibility. During his eight years as governor he’s signed at least a dozen gun-related bills, most intended to weaken gun-safety regulation or expand access to firearms. One allowed people to take their guns to church; another, into restaurants that serve alcohol. He broadened Louisiana’s Stand Your Ground law, and made it a crime to publish the names of people with concealed carry permits. At the same time Jindal has pushed for cuts to mental health services. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5253 "2015-07-24T19:54:21Z")
It seems like this is happening more frequently. Is that true, or just my perception? If so, things just might _ **have to** _ change. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5254 "2015-07-24T21:57:04Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > It seems like this is happening more frequently. Is that true, or just my perception? If so, things just might _ **have to** _ change. Do local incidents get more national coverage than they used to? ---
**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5255 "2015-07-25T15:12:01Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > It seems like this is happening more frequently. Is that true, or just my perception? If so, things just might _ **have to** _ change. Here’s a recent [_Washington Times_ article](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/24/there-have-been-204-mass-shootings-and-204-days-in-2015-so-far/) on how there have been 204 mass-shootings in last of 204 days of 2015. Pretty eye-opening, to say the least. Mind boggling, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5256 "2015-07-25T15:21:13Z")
I wouldn’t use the adjective _interesting_ to describe anything at all from that rag. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5257 "2015-07-26T01:31:08Z")
Truly stupid gun user news. [These idiots](http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/07/shooting_propane_tanks_sparks_cowlitz_county_fire_3_men_arrested.html) thought that it was a good idea to take propane tanks into the woods and shoot at them with a variety of weapons. During a drought. It resulted in a 100 acre wildfire. All three were arrested. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5258 "2015-07-26T15:59:19Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > … Washington Times article … > > I wouldn’t use the adjective _interesting_ to describe anything at all from that rag. Call me a masochist, but I clicked the link and started reading. It seemed factual!! Indeed rational!!! What is the world coming to, when Washington Times gives up its credentials as lying and brainless, even out-Foxing FauxNews? I was so confused I checked the URL. **Ionizer** ’s “Washington Times” link is actually a link to Washington Post. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5259 "2015-07-26T16:33:43Z")
Rick Perry just waded into the Louisiana movie theater shooting. > [@](#): > > ([CNN)Rick Perry said in an interview Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” that the shooting in Lafayette, Louisiana, earlier this week shows why gun-free zones are “a bad idea” and said he believes people should be able to take their firearms to the movies.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/26/politics/rick-perry-gun-free-zones-movie-theaters/index.html) Look, I may not have an answer but does anyone reading this REALLY want to make going to the movies [more like this…?](https://gifsound.com/?gif=cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/67bc6bf3-51dc-4d8c-9741-da105fe8ccc0/ef722042-7966-4ec8-8cf2-3ddce75c4bd1.gif&v=yTB9DFlzny0) ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5260 "2015-07-26T18:04:02Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Look, I may not have an answer but does anyone reading this REALLY want to make going to the movies [more like this…?](https://gifsound.com/?gif=cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/67bc6bf3-51dc-4d8c-9741-da105fe8ccc0/ef722042-7966-4ec8-8cf2-3ddce75c4bd1.gif&v=yTB9DFlzny0) 😕 What does the link have to do with the topic? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=262) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=264)