# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5261 "2015-07-26T22:12:51Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> 😕 What does the link have to do with the topic?

1. This thread seems to be an omnibus for stupid gun news of the day.

2. A politician made stupid gun news today. Link provided to the CNN (text and video)

3. The POV that we all need to load up and hump in heavy weapons like Rambo every time there is a new release at a multiplex is Lampooned in that link you questioned:  
“Lets All Go To The Lobby” meets “Massive Automatic Weapons Murder Scene from The Crow” which seems to be where the suggestion that we should only go to the movies when heavily armed leads.  
You’re Welcome.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5262 "2015-07-26T23:12:01Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> 1. This thread seems to be an omnibus for stupid gun news of the day.
> 
> 2. A politician made stupid gun news today. Link provided to the CNN (text and video)
> 
> 3. The POV that we all need to load up and hump in heavy weapons like Rambo every time there is a new release at a multiplex is Lampooned in that link you questioned:  
> “Lets All Go To The Lobby” meets “Massive Automatic Weapons Murder Scene from The Crow” which seems to be where the suggestion that we should only go to the movies when heavily armed leads.  
> You’re Welcome.

I’ve never seen The Crow so I didn’t make the connection. In any event I don’t think a movie about undead avengers portrays the most realistic scenario.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5263 "2015-07-26T23:20:02Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> In any event I don’t think

Works for me.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5264 "2015-07-26T23:37:47Z")

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You really sank to editing sentences to make an insult?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5265 "2015-07-27T14:43:31Z")

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Luke O’Neil, an even worse asshat antigunner than anyone on this board:  
[http://www.infowars.com/leftist-journalist-it-would-be-funny-if-all-gun-rights-people-got-shot-dead/](http://www.infowars.com/leftist-journalist-it-would-be-funny-if-all-gun-rights-people-got-shot-dead/)?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5266 "2015-07-27T16:41:35Z")

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Aw, thanks!

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5267 "2015-07-29T10:32:07Z")

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In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States - who later died from the wound.

In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen , TX.

In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US …

In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown, CT.

In Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders.

THEREFORE: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5268 "2015-07-29T11:45:53Z")

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So presumably if I can also provide a list of Republicans, independents and unregistered people who have also killed a bunch of people with guns, you’d be okay with gun ownership being illegal for everyone. Result!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5269 "2015-07-29T12:19:34Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
> 
> In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States - who later died from the wound.
> 
> In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
> 
> In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
> 
> In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
> 
> In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
> 
> In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
> 
> In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
> 
> In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen , TX.
> 
> In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
> 
> In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
> 
> In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US …
> 
> In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
> 
> In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
> 
> In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
> 
> In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
> 
> In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
> 
> In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown, CT.
> 
> In Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.
> 
> Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders.
> 
> THEREFORE: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

Pray tell, where did you get this silly list from?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5270 "2015-07-29T12:40:30Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

Booth was not a Democrat, he was a member of the Know Nothing Party.

> [@](#):
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> In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States - who later died from the wound.

Charles J. Guiteau, was a Republican speechwriter for James Garfield.

> [@](#):
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> In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

Sort of. Lee Harvey Oswald was a “left wing socialist”, though it is uncertain how that equates with “progressive liberal Democrat”.

> [@](#):
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> In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

Sarah Jane Moore was not a member of any political party. She was a Marxist.

> [@](#):
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> In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

There is no evidence that John Hinckley was a Democrat. Both his parents are Republicans.

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> In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

The McDonalds mass murderer was committed by James Huberty not James Hubert. Huberty’s online biographies indicated that he was a survivalist and obsessed with Soviet aggression. He believed in an impending breakdown of society, economic collapse, and that he was in the advent of a nuclear war. Because of this he had invested in non-perishable foods and an arsenal of weapons.

> [@](#):
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> In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

There is no evidence that Patrick Sherrill was a Democrat.

> [@](#):
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> In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

There is no evidence that James Pough was a Democrat.

> [@](#):
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> In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen , TX.

There is no evidence that Hennard was a Democrat, however he lived in Texas which does not record party affiliations on voter registration.

> [@](#):
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> In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

There is no evidence that James Daniel Simpson was a Democrat, however he lived in Texas which does not record party affiliations on voter registration.

> [@](#):
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> In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

There is not evidence Larry Ashbrook, not Larry Asbrook, was a Democrat. He lived in Texas which does not record party affiliations on voter registration. See a theme here?

> [@](#):
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> In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US …

Robert W Pickett was a “disgruntled former employee of the Internal Revenue Service” but there is no available evidence that he was a Democrat. Told to leave work in the 1980’s, Pickett embarked on a succession of lawsuits against the IRS, his immediate superior and his union the National Treasury Employees Union. While he did fire shots “in the general direction of the White House” he used a handgun and did not aim. After the initial shots were fired Pickett threatened suicide until he was shot in the knee and secured. There is more evidence that this was an attempt at suicide by cop than that Bush was the target.]

> [@](#):
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> In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

There is no evidence that Douglas Williams was a Democrat.

> [@](#):
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> In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

Seung-Hui Cho was not even a US citizen, much less a registered Democrat.

> [@](#):
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> In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

The Washington Post confirms that Jared Lee Loughner registered as an Independent in 2006, voted at least twice, and was listed as “inactive” for the 2010 elections.

> [@](#):
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> In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

James Holmes was not registered to vote anywhere.

> [@](#):
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> In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

There is no evidence that Andrew Engeldinger was a Democrat.

> [@](#):
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> In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown, CT.

There is no evidence that Adam Lanza was a registered Democrat.

> [@](#):
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> In Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

There is no evidence that Aaron Alexis was a registered Democrat.

> [@](#):
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> Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders.
> 
> THEREFORE: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

Clearly, **Bullitt** has a problem with telling the truth, though his cut-and-paste skills are excellent.

THEREFORE: Everybody should point and laugh at **Bullitt**.

> **[Sensible Gun Control-Fiction!](https://www.truthorfiction.com/sensible-gun-control/)**
>
> This is forwarded email alleging Democrats and radical left wingers were responsible for the deaths of Presidents and many other citizens. It offered the solution to the problem as taking guns away from members of the Democratic Party.

> **[Myth Blaster: Mass Shooters and Assassins are Democrats](https://peninsulalighthouse.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/myth-blaster-mass-shooters-and-assassins-are-democrats/)**
>
> The following has been circulating the email circuit and was posted at the website of Victoria Jackson. Myth Blaster Verdict: Some elements of truth, some false and some unsubstantiated. … In 1865 …

> **[Examiner is back - Examiner.com](https://examiner.com)**
>
> At Examiner.com™ we help you excel personal finance, boost income, invest wisely, travel smart, reach financial freedom faster, and enjoy life on a budget.

[http://humidcity.com/2014/05/31/absolute-undeniable-verifiable-proof-mass-shooters-democrats/](http://humidcity.com/2014/05/31/absolute-undeniable-verifiable-proof-mass-shooters-democrats/)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5271 "2015-07-29T12:44:41Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Pray tell, where did you get this silly list from?

Oh, it’s making the rounds of some of the less-rational anti-gun-control sites. It needs a serious accuracy check, by the way.

[Ninja’d, dammit]

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5272 "2015-07-29T13:16:57Z")

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Houser was a["radical Tea Party Republican"](http://reverbpress.com/justice/theater-shooter-views/).

Best Facebook commentary: “Let me get this straight. The Party of Lincoln is now in favor of having more guns in theatres?”

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5273 "2015-07-29T13:18:00Z")

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Damn **Bullitt** , if you are going to post garbage your read on the internet, at least take the time to fucking verify it. There is a commandment about bearing false witness that maybe you should read and think about.l

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5274 "2015-07-29T13:40:51Z")

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**Bullitt** , FWIW, my most recent interactions with you had led me to start respecting you a bit. I certainly do not at this point. That may not matter to you - I really don’t know what kind of person you are.

If I pasted something like that, though, or even if I read and believed it, I would seriously reconsider my evidence gathering practices when I discovered how faulty the information was.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5275 "2015-07-29T13:43:09Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Pray tell, where did you get this silly list from?

Probably the same place from which Dumuri is awaiting the talking points to respond to the recent studies on guns.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5276 "2015-07-29T13:51:37Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> THEREFORE: Everybody should point and laugh at **Bullitt**.

Round of applause for **Fear Itself**! Thanks for doing the leg work on this one.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5277 "2015-07-29T17:34:12Z")

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Get a gun for self-defense and [you’re likely to regret it](http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/simulator-shows-what-happens-when-civilians-use-guns-for-self-defense/2015/07/28/ab1aef1e-3551-11e5-b835-61ddaa99c73e_video.html).

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5278 "2015-07-29T20:26:59Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Get a gun for self-defense and [you’re likely to regret it](http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/simulator-shows-what-happens-when-civilians-use-guns-for-self-defense/2015/07/28/ab1aef1e-3551-11e5-b835-61ddaa99c73e_video.html).

No argument here that if you’re serious about carrying a gun you should take tactical training courses. Except I’d have presumed that **ElvisL1ves** would regard anyone who did as a Dirty Harry/Rambo-wannabe mall ninja.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5279 "2015-07-29T20:33:13Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Get a gun for self-defense and [you’re likely to regret it](http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/simulator-shows-what-happens-when-civilians-use-guns-for-self-defense/2015/07/28/ab1aef1e-3551-11e5-b835-61ddaa99c73e_video.html).

What seems certain is that many people would regret it if you got a gun.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5280 "2015-07-30T01:00:55Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Round of applause for **Fear Itself**! Thanks for doing the leg work on this one.

You want congratulations for doing the leg work?

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