# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 269
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5361 "2015-08-03T20:12:59Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Gun safety is about facts not propaganda. So what if the old codger that teaches gun safety at the NRA headquarters thinks that the second amendment is the right that protects all your other rights. What if “the old codger” spreads outright lies? Is it o.k. as long as it’s about a group you despise? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5362 "2015-08-03T20:33:18Z")
Something which just struck me as interesting is that the same party that thinks every little child should be taught how to handle a gun for their own safety, and that simply telling them to avoid handling guns is insufficient, is the same party that thinks that thinks children should not be taught safe sex and that abstinence is the only option. Strange days. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5363 "2015-08-03T23:22:19Z")
Something that is interesting to me is how certain gun control proponents are very comfortable slandering gun owners in the most heinous ways ( e.g. “one bad day…” and “another Adam Lanza”) as mass murderers just waiting to happen. Yet, these same gun control proponents shut their mouths tighter a gnat’s asshole when asked a few simple questions about their own place in their imaginary world of imminent murder. Truly, one wonders why they are so reticent. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5364 "2015-08-04T01:05:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What if “the old codger” spreads outright lies? Is it o.k. as long as it’s about a group you despise? I consider myself a liberal and I suspect that Bullitt probably wishes he never posted that list. Trying to frame one end of the political spectrum as more murderous than the other is like trying to compare Hitler to Stalin. Who gives a fuck, they’re both bastards. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5365 "2015-08-04T01:35:08Z")
Failing to store your guns properly should absolutely be a crime - If you do the equivalent of leaving a car in the parking lot with the keys in it, and then the car is used to run over orphans, then you should be charged - a low level crime to be sure, but yes - I’d make it criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5366 "2015-08-04T01:45:44Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Something which just struck me as interesting is that the same party that thinks every little child should be taught how to handle a gun for their own safety, and that simply telling them to avoid handling guns is insufficient, is the same party that thinks that thinks children should not be taught safe sex and that abstinence is the only option. > > Strange days. I’m a Democrat and I believe that gun safety and safe sex should both be taught in schools. I know which party you think stands for which principle but not everyone taht votes Democrat believes everything that the most extreme elements of that party believes. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5367 "2015-08-04T01:47:31Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Failing to store your guns properly should absolutely be a crime - > If you do the equivalent of leaving a car in the parking lot with the keys in it, and then the car is used to run over orphans, then you should be charged - a low level crime to be sure, but yes - I’d make it criminal. OK can you point to any place in this country where you will be charged with a crime because someone ran over blind orphans with your car? The most culpability I can see is monetary damages covered by insurance. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5368 "2015-08-04T02:16:51Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > OK can you point to any place in this country where you will be charged with a crime because someone ran over blind orphans with your car? The most culpability I can see is monetary damages covered by insurance. Where I am, Allowing an unlicensed driver to use your car is a crime. Given the nature of guns, if you are recklessly careless with your gun, and it gets stolen - I feel that “deserves” criminal punishment. Naturally - the “worse” the crime it is used for, the further up the sentencing scale people will be willing to go. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5369 "2015-08-04T02:41:02Z")
Once again, firearms are _specifically designed to cause damage, injury or death_. Motor vehicles are specifically designed to move people and shit from one place to another. Damage, injury or death resulting from motor vehicle use is predominantly unintentional (though not always) and falls outside the design specification of the device. Stewardship of a device that is designed to harm things and creatures should call for a higher standard than for a transportation device. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5370 "2015-08-04T11:30:50Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > If you do the equivalent of leaving a car in the parking lot with the keys in it, and then the car is used to run over orphans, then you should be charged - a low level crime to be sure, but yes - I’d make it criminal. All this fuss over orphans, yet the orphanages are filled to capacity with 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5371 "2015-08-04T12:24:02Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Once again, firearms are _specifically designed to cause damage, injury or death_. Motor vehicles are specifically designed to move people and shit from one place to another. Damage, injury or death resulting from motor vehicle use is predominantly unintentional (though not always) and falls outside the design specification of the device. Stewardship of a device that is designed to harm things and creatures should call for a higher standard than for a transportation device. So you would be on board with prosecuting with equal vigor somebody whose knife was stolen and used in a crime? How secure are _your_ knives, anyway? I’d presume a public safety maven like you has them, literally, under lock and key. You don’t have them in one of those I-want-to-stab-somebody-right-NOW blocks out on the counter, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5372 "2015-08-04T14:19:04Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > So you would be on board with prosecuting with equal vigor somebody whose knife was stolen and used in a crime? How secure are _your_ knives, anyway? I’d presume a public safety maven like you has them, literally, under lock and key. You don’t have them in one of those I-want-to-stab-somebody-right-NOW blocks out on the counter, do you? Is that a problem where you live? How terrible! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5373 "2015-08-04T15:21:20Z")
I hate when my knife accidentally goes off when I’m cleaning it and stabs a toddler in the next room. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5374 "2015-08-04T15:33:32Z")
Plenty of folks ae killed, maimed, or disfigured with knives every year. They are worried enough about it in the gun-banning paradise of Great Britain to have termed it "knife culture"and enacted knife laws nearly as strict as their gun laws. Way I see it, you anti sorts really ought to be scared shitless of edged weapons. They are lethal, silent, never run out of ammo, and can easily be made from makeshift materials. Jack the Ripper never shot anybody, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5375 "2015-08-04T15:35:17Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Plenty of folks ae killed, maimed, or disfigured with knives every year. Not enough to warrant increasing regulation of them. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5376 "2015-08-04T15:49:10Z")
It is “anti-gun” to suggest that gun owners should be responsible for how their guns get used and to make sure they are properly secured? Whenever I suggest that, I keep hearing “_BAN!_” from the “pro-gun” crowd. How would that be a ban? Or even “anti-gun”? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5377 "2015-08-04T15:49:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I hate when my knife accidentally goes off when I’m cleaning it and stabs a toddler in the next room. What about all those innocent bystanders that get killed in drive-by stabbings? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5378 "2015-08-04T15:53:18Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Jack the Ripper never shot anybody, you know. And Og the Caveman never used an Uzi. Register rocks! You wouldn’t happen to have any solid stats on knife killings in the U.S., would you? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5379 "2015-08-04T16:12:13Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Plenty of folks ae killed, maimed, or disfigured with knives every year. They are worried enough about it in the gun-banning paradise of Great Britain to have termed it "knife culture"and enacted knife laws nearly as strict as their gun laws. > > Way I see it, you anti sorts really ought to be scared shitless of edged weapons. They are lethal, silent, never run out of ammo, and can easily be made from makeshift materials. Jack the Ripper never shot anybody, you know. It’s always nice to be told I oughta be “scared shitless” by people who are too afraid not to have a gun. And I’m thrilled by the “gun-banning paradise” of Great Britain. Helluva lot easier to run away from a mugger with a knife than a mugger with a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5380 "2015-08-04T16:18:48Z")
Apparently Great Britain is filled with dangerous ex-carny knife-throwing gangsters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=268) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=270)