# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/521 "2013-02-14T23:35:36Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Come on, you can do better than that!😃 We could, but you set the bar so low, we don’t have to. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/522 "2013-02-14T23:39:31Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > We could, but you set the bar so low, we don’t have to. You could? Prove it!😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/523 "2013-02-14T23:42:12Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > You could? Prove it!😛 I’ll bet you crack yourself up. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/524 "2013-02-15T02:01:52Z")
Can we just put Kable and Fear, wearing bathing suits and carrying Louisville sluggers into a small room and see who comes out? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/525 "2013-02-15T02:13:47Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Can we just put Kable and Fear, wearing bathing suits and carrying Louisville sluggers into a small room and see who comes out? > > 🙂 Covered in Crisco? I’ll buy! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/526 "2013-02-15T03:10:38Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > Covered in Crisco? I’ll buy! Okay! Get your tickets here, a trifling five bucks! Email me for my Paypal account. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/527 "2013-02-15T03:27:46Z")
Dear Esteemed Gentleman **CarnivorousPlant** : I am having for you a most excellent very good business opportunity! My father, the late financial minister person for the sovereign nation of Bongolongo… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/528 "2013-02-15T03:58:55Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Dear Esteemed Gentleman **CarnivorousPlant** : > > I am having for you a most excellent very good business opportunity! My father, the late financial minister person for the sovereign nation of Bongolongo… Oh! Do tell! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/529 "2013-02-15T04:06:53Z")
Forget it. Checked with PayPal. They asked if I knew where you were hiding. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/530 "2013-02-15T04:56:05Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Can we just put Kable and Fear, wearing bathing suits and carrying Louisville sluggers into a small room and see who comes out? I’ll be the one in the Speedo. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/531 "2013-02-15T09:50:58Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > That’s what I’ve been doing to you guys in reverse. Lots of shooters are lax with gun safety. I think gun safety should be taught in public schools along with sex education. Great, now both the armed guards and the young males will be covering embarrassing erections. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > BTW, I think dogs are superior to alarm systems and guns are superior to golf clubs in case a barking dog doesn’t do the trick. Well that’s the thing: a golf club wasn’t very effective against an armed invader who happened to be there legally. A loaded AR-15 might have been, but we’re simultaneously expected to believe that time is of the essence and that keeping a gun unloaded or in a safe would result in slaughter and that a person can identify whether someone is a friendly or not in a matter of milliseconds with the appropriate degree of luminosity. Seems a tad implausible. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/532 "2013-02-15T13:06:18Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Great, now both the armed guards and the young males will be covering embarrassing erections. I figure it has a co-benefit of keeping Christian kids from missing school that day so they can learn about condoms too. > [@](#): > > that a person can identify whether someone is a friendly or not in a matter of milliseconds with the appropriate degree of luminosity. Seems a tad implausible. With lights on, how long does it take you to recognize a family member? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/533 "2013-02-15T13:36:58Z")
Of coincidental interest: > **[No guns at home, so Japanese shoot 'em up in Guam](https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-guns-home-japanese-shoot-em-guam-054753875.html)** > > TAMUNING, Guam (AP) — Their well-equipped arsenals offer everything from tiny revolvers (for ladies) to Berettas, Glocks, semi-automatic pistols and M16 military assault rifles. If kids can see over the counter, they are welcome too. **No guns at home, so Japanese shoot 'em up in Guam** The Japanese totally ban handguns and other lethal toys, so tourists go to Guam to shoot guns in a firing range. Tucked into the text, the following factoid: > [@](#): > > …Because guns are so hard to find, gun-related crime is extremely rare. They were used in only seven murders in Japan — a nation of about 130 million people — in 2011, the most recent year for official statistics. In the U.S., with 315 million people, there are more than 11,000 gun-related killings annually… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/534 "2013-02-15T13:46:34Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I’ll be the one in the Speedo. Good, we’ll be able to tell you apart. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/535 "2013-02-15T13:57:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Of coincidental interest: > > [No guns at home, so Japanese shoot 'em up in Guam](http://news.yahoo.com/no-guns-home-japanese-shoot-em-guam-054753875.html) > > **No guns at home, so Japanese shoot 'em up in Guam** > > The Japanese totally ban handguns and other lethal toys, so tourists go to Guam to shoot guns in a firing range. Tucked into the text, the following factoid: > [@](#): > > …Because guns are so hard to find, gun-related crime is extremely rare. They were used in only seven murders in Japan — a nation of about 130 million people — in 2011, the most recent year for official statistics. In the U.S., with 315 million people, there are more than 11,000 gun-related killings annually… Yea, but I have it on the impeccable authority of many on this forum that their deadly lawn furniture rampages must be through the roof. Or the Japanese aren’t as exceptionally murderous as Americans. Or something. Anyway, Luci, back to the more important issue. Why do you hate Freedom? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/536 "2013-02-15T14:07:25Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > …Because guns are so hard to find, gun-related crime is extremely rare. They were used in only seven murders in Japan — a nation of about 130 million people — in 2011, the most recent year for official statistics. In the U.S., with 315 million people, there are more than 11,000 gun-related killings annually… Nah, in Japan they just kill themselves instead: > **[Suicide in Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan#Methods_of_committing_suicide)** > > In Japan, suicide (自殺, jisatsu) is considered a major social issue. In 2017, the country had the seventh highest suicide rate in the OECD, at 14.9 per 100,000 persons, and in 2019 the country had the second highest suicide rate among the G7 developed nations. The Japanese government plans to reduce the suicide rate by at least thirty percent by 2026 from 18.5 per 100,000 persons in 2015. > In 1997, suicide rates spiked heavily, increasing by 34.7% in 1998 alone and remaining relatively high for ... ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/537 "2013-02-15T16:07:02Z")
And there I was, saying how Japan is a nearly perfect society, a paragon in every respect. I should have known better, that a sharp cookie like you would catch me. Boy, is my face red! ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/538 "2013-02-15T17:10:05Z")
Here’s the weekly update from DailyKos: [GunFail V](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/15/1185604/-GunFAIL-V) Note that he has decided to discontinue the account of domestic murder/suicide since his original intent was to focus on the ways in which responsible gun owners suddenly turn into irresponsible gun owners. There are 50 events in this week’s installment. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/539 "2013-02-15T18:08:29Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Here’s the weekly update from DailyKos: [GunFail V](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/15/1185604/-GunFAIL-V) > > Note that he has decided to discontinue the account of domestic murder/suicide since his original intent was to focus on the ways in which responsible gun owners suddenly turn into irresponsible gun owners. There are 50 events in this week’s installment. That is a quality link, my friend. The amount of stupid exhibited by folks there is astounding. Well, it’s not surprising that stupid people have accidents. But the combination of stupid people and guns can lead to some impressive stories. But that’s fine - you see, they were all irresponsible gun owners. Of course, they were responsible gun owners right up until the time the shot themselves or someone else. Of course, it will NEVER, EVER happen to the gun lovers in this thread. Because they’re responsible you see. Right up until they are not. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/540 "2013-02-16T00:46:32Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > What? Your posts are very hard to parse sometimes. Sorry, Its the combination of fat fingers and the tiny keyboard on my new phone. > [@](#): > > Anyway, I certainly count suicides. I’m still in the worst demographic for them, after all. Statistically, I’m way more likely to kill myself than to be killed by a stranger. Why would I ignore that? Then don’t get a gun. Noone is forcing you to get a gun, the choice is yours. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > But that’s fine - you see, they were all irresponsible gun owners. Of course, they were responsible gun owners right up until the time the shot themselves or someone else. Of course, it will NEVER, EVER happen to the gun lovers in this thread. Because they’re responsible you see. > > Right up until they are not. Not all gun owners are responsible. Hang out at a gun store for about an hour and it becomes obvious. That is why I support a licensing requirement. I had to undergo training and take a test to get my CCW. There has been one firearm crime committed by someone with a CCW since 1976. I would bet that CCWs have fewer accidental/negligent discharges than the gun owning population generally, I couldn’t provide a cite but it would be consistent with my anecdotal experience. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=28)