# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5901 "2015-09-29T17:45:34Z")

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Just another poorly-trained outlier. Nothing to see here.

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5902 "2015-09-29T21:53:39Z")

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Wanna bet they find this guy curled up in the fetal position clutching his gun to his chest, crying, “Don’t let them take it away, Mommy!”?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5903 "2015-09-30T18:13:15Z")

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Apparently [some gun nuts think it’s unreasonable for private property owners to tell them to leave their guns outside.](http://www.lex18.com/story/30134712/restaurant-refuses-service-to-soldier-for-carrying-firearm)

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> Billy Welch said that he stopped at the Waffle House Sunday morning for breakfast. He was in his Army National Guard uniform and had his gun holstered to his side. After ordering his food, Welch said that a waitress signaled for him to come over.
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> "I got up and I walked over to them, asked them how they were doing and stuff, and they said I’d have to take my firearm outside,” said Welch. “I don’t feel comfortable taking my firearm away from me. I always keep it with me and they said, ‘it’s one of our policies.’”

Look, bozo: _numero uno_, you’re not a cop. You don’t need to carry your gun everywhere in order to protect the public safety. You’re a soldier. When you’re sent to Afghanistan or wherever, you will need your gun. And even then, you won’t be allowed to just carry it around with you on base, if I understand military policy correctly.

_Numero two-o:_ if you don’t feel secure without it when you’re in the Nicholasville, KY Waffle House, then maybe you should eat at someplace where you actually feel safe. Like your own kitchen, because I doubt anywhere else would fill the bill.

Seriously, this is one of the things that always gets me about gun owners wanting to take their guns into places (restaurants, bars, etc.) where you’re there to relax, eat, drink, and have fun. If you don’t feel that that place is safe enough for you to spend time in without your gun, then jeez, find some other place to relax in where you don’t have to worry about needing a firearm all of a sudden.

_Numero three-o:_ just put the gun in the glove compartment when you leave the house, then lock the glove compartment and the car itself when you leave the car to go into a business establishment. It ain’t that hard. And you can stand to be without your gun for long enough to eat breakfast, you big baby.

_Numero four-o:_ it’s _their_ restaurant. You’re not the one who was imposed upon here, though that’s how you acted. Rather, you made the morning an awkward one for a couple of waitresses who did their best to be diplomatic with a guy who could have killed them right then and there.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5904 "2015-09-30T18:15:09Z")

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I don’t feel safe in a Waffle House either. But I assume it’s the \*food \*that’s dangerous.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5905 "2015-09-30T18:31:55Z")

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This story is hinky. Army folks, are you allowed to wear a personal firearm in an exposed holster while in uniform? I would think that would violate the uniform regs.

Secondly, he’s not allowed to bring his gun on any US military installation – are the rules for guard bases different? I doubt it. So what was he planning on doing, parking his car off base? Violating the rules? Or going home first to drop off his gun?

If he was going home after breakfast, then he probably shouldn’t have been in uniform.

Sounds like a douchebag all around.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5906 "2015-09-30T18:41:26Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I don’t feel safe in a Waffle House either. But I assume it’s the \*food \*that’s dangerous.

The syrup makes _me_ twitchy.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5907 "2015-09-30T18:41:56Z")

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I was in the NG over 30 years ago. We were discouraged from wearing our fatigues outside of drill; you could get away with stopping at the grocery store on the way home from drill, but sitting in a restaurant wouldn’t have been cool. Personal weapons at the NG Armory were out of the question.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5908 "2015-10-01T01:28:22Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I don’t feel safe in a Waffle House either. But I assume it’s the \*food \*that’s dangerous.

I ate there once and dubbed it “The Awful House”.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5909 "2015-10-01T18:37:43Z")

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Another responsible gun owner has a bad day, [kills 15 people at an Oregon community college.](http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Reports-Active-shooter-at-Roseburg-Ore-community-college-330287931.html)

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5910 "2015-10-01T18:41:58Z")

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Oh no. According to the N.R.A. he has had a blood-red letter day.

These are the days they dream of. The stuff of advertising campaigns.  
The stuff of the 2nd Amendment.

Sick fucks.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5911 "2015-10-01T19:02:38Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Another responsible gun owner has a bad day, [kills 15 people at an Oregon community college.](http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Reports-Active-shooter-at-Roseburg-Ore-community-college-330287931.html)

Do we actually know anything about the shooter yet, or is “responsible gun owner” just snark?

> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Oh no. According to the N.R.A. he has had a blood-red letter day.
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> These are the days they dream of. The stuff of advertising campaigns.  
> The stuff of the 2nd Amendment.
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> Sick fucks.

😕 More snark, or are you actually claiming the NRA has commented on the shooting?

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5912 "2015-10-01T19:05:57Z")

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Oh. Not snark.

Sad truth.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5913 "2015-10-01T19:10:01Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> 😕 More snark, or are you actually claiming the NRA has commented on the shooting?

> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Oh. Not snark. Sad truth.

Link please.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5914 "2015-10-01T19:10:02Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Do we actually know anything about the shooter yet, or is “responsible gun owner” just snark?

In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. So until we hear otherwise, he is a responsible, lawful gun owner.

Or are you suggesting we should make assumptions about guilt in the absence of evidence?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5915 "2015-10-01T19:23:32Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Another responsible gun owner has a bad day, [kills 15 people at an Oregon community college.](http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Reports-Active-shooter-at-Roseburg-Ore-community-college-330287931.html)

“Now is not the time” etc. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5916 "2015-10-01T19:28:32Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Another responsible gun owner has a bad day, [kills 15 people at an Oregon community college.](http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Reports-Active-shooter-at-Roseburg-Ore-community-college-330287931.html)

He was _teaching_. Teaching about bullets and fear and stuff.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5917 "2015-10-01T19:33:53Z")

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[We’ve been through all of this before.](http://images.dailykos.com/images/161512/lightbox/TMW2015-09-02color.png?1440793523)

Now is not the time… good guys with guns…yada yada yada.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5918 "2015-10-01T19:33:58Z")

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Hey, **Damuri** , tell us more about this “exposure therapy” shit.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5919 "2015-10-01T19:58:56Z")

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[Roseburg gunman’s alleged 4chan posting from yesterday](http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OZGEjT1ilSUJ:https://archive.moe/r9k/post/22785729/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us).

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5920 "2015-10-01T20:27:06Z")

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Good lord, there’s some sick fucks out there.

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