# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5961 "2015-10-03T23:48:05Z")

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[And more from Roseburg, Oregon, where the latest mass school murder just took place](http://skyvalleychronicle.com/BREAKING-NEWS/JUST-ORDERED-SOME-MORE-AR-s-ALWAYS-A-RUSH-ON-THEM-AFTER-A-BIG-SHOOTING-br-Oregon-gun-store-owner-2275174):

> [@](#):
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> “I’ve just ordered some more ARs,” the owner of the gun shop Candi Kinney told the newspaper. "There’s always a rush on them after a big shooting. We can’t keep the stuff on the shelves.”  
> …
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> Inside the gun shop the newspaper found a life-size cardboard cutout of President Obama with an Arab style scarf around his head and a crudely made sign on the photo that says, “Gun salesman of the year.”

That’s who’s on your side, **Lumpy**. Be proud.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5962 "2015-10-04T01:53:37Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [And more from Roseburg, Oregon, where the latest mass school murder just took place](http://skyvalleychronicle.com/BREAKING-NEWS/JUST-ORDERED-SOME-MORE-AR-s-ALWAYS-A-RUSH-ON-THEM-AFTER-A-BIG-SHOOTING-br-Oregon-gun-store-owner-2275174): That’s who’s on your side, **Lumpy**. Be proud.

Hey, the gun shop owner is a woman, so at least you can’t drag out the usual good ol’ boy, penis-compensation slurs. And Obama _has_ inspired more gun sales than the Manson family. And gun sales do pick up after reports of maniac killers. Frankly, you’re mocking the truth.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5963 "2015-10-04T01:54:48Z")

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New Jersey Priest Points Antique Gun [at 8-Year-Old Over Football Rivalry](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Priest-Points-Gun-Boy-Giants-Football-Rivalry-Little-Ferry-New-Jersey-330484511.html)

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> Prosecutors said the priest, a Giants fan, was apparently unhappy because the boy planned to root for the Cowboys in a game against the Giants later that day.
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> “The young boy was apparently a fan of a particular football team, the priest was not. So perhaps we have indication it started out as that,” said Molinelli.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5964 "2015-10-04T07:19:25Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> New Jersey Priest Points Antique Gun [at 8-Year-Old Over Football Rivalry](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Priest-Points-Gun-Boy-Giants-Football-Rivalry-Little-Ferry-New-Jersey-330484511.html)

that seems reasonable

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5965 "2015-10-04T11:32:05Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> New Jersey Priest Points Antique Gun [at 8-Year-Old Over Football Rivalry](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Priest-Points-Gun-Boy-Giants-Football-Rivalry-Little-Ferry-New-Jersey-330484511.html)

Hey, he’s a priest. Kid got off lucky.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5966 "2015-10-04T11:51:57Z")

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You beat me to it.  
He could been Sanduskied.

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5967 "2015-10-04T19:23:39Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> And Obama _has_ inspired more gun sales than the Manson family.

Yes, gun owners turn into Chicken Littles with their heads cut off at the mere suggestion of restricting their guns. It’s called separation anxiety. Like other psychological conditions, it’s detrimental to an individual’s well-being, so it’s strange to see gun owners actually flaunt it to support their cause.

Say what you will about Obama, he’s hardly responsible for the psychological disorders of gun owners, no more than he is for children afraid of losing their security blankets.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5968 "2015-10-04T19:39:38Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Hey, the gun shop owner is a woman, so at least you can’t drag out the usual good ol’ boy, penis-compensation slurs.

She’s the gun seller, **Lumpy** good ol’ boy! :smack: Selling satisfaction to men with penis anxiety? That’s been a woman’s job for centuries. I think you inadvertantly helped the rational-thinking side of the aisle make their case, **Lumpy** , at least by demonstrating that gun nuts are too dumb even to connect dots. 😛

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5969 "2015-10-05T01:05:44Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> Tennessee Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey has issued a warning to Christians to arm themselves against aggressive secularists.
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> From his FB page:
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> "As I scroll through the news this morning I am saddened to read the details of the horrible tragedy in Oregon. My heart goes out to the citizens of Roseburg – especially the families and loved ones of those murdered.
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> The recent spike in mass shootings across the nation is truly troubling. Whether the perpetrators are motivated by aggressive secularism, jihadist extremism or racial supremacy, their targets remain the same: Christians and defenders of the West.
> 
> While this is not the time for widespread panic, it is a time to prepare. I would encourage my fellow Christians who are serious about their faith to think about getting a handgun carry permit. I have always believed that it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.
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> Our enemies are armed. We must do likewise."  
> [Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey](https://www.facebook.com/teamronramsey/posts/10153721778185452)

I’m not sure if this belongs in the gun thread or the stupid politician thread.

Americans - just how the fuck do people like this get elected and stay in office?  
Where I’m from, if anybody said anything even halfway as incendiary and dumb as this it would be front page news and create mass outrage

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5970 "2015-10-05T01:30:10Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Not the NRA as such, but:
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> [Ben Carson and right-wing Twitter politicize Oregon shooting with pro-gun agenda: “Democrats and the media want us unarmed and helpless”](http://www.salon.com/2015/10/01/ben_carson_and_right_wing_twitter_politicize_oregon_shooting_with_pro_gun_agenda_democrats_and_the_media_want_us_unarmed_and_helpless/)
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> At least Alex Jones hasn’t floated a theory that this shooting was a government false-flag op . . . so far as I’ve heard . . . yet . . .

I don’t know if Alex Jones is behind it but the crazies have already started talking about it. This has been floating around facebook.  
[http://www.donotlink.com/gw59](http://www.donotlink.com/gw59)

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5971 "2015-10-05T03:12:41Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [“Democrats and the media want us unarmed and helpless”](http://www.salon.com/2015/10/01/ben_carson_and_right_wing_twitter_politicize_oregon_shooting_with_pro_gun_agenda_democrats_and_the_media_want_us_unarmed_and_helpless/)

At least it’s good to see one gun owner admit that he feels helpless without a gun. There’s therapy that can help someone get over that.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5972 "2015-10-05T04:18:00Z")

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> [@Esox\_Lucius](#):
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> At least it’s good to see one gun owner admit that he feels helpless without a gun. There’s therapy that can help someone get over that.

I know a guy who always carries. He refuses to sit in a restaurant with his back to the door, and he won’t go to a move theater that doesn’t allow the carrying of a weapon. He strikes me as the last guy we want carrying a gun around.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5973 "2015-10-05T09:20:47Z")

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One of the ironies of the gun debate is that the people most attracted to guns are the ones who need them least-- white males who live in rural and suburban areas.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5974 "2015-10-05T10:24:08Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> One of the ironies of the gun debate is that the people most attracted to guns are the ones who need them least-- white males who live in rural and suburban areas.

I’m a white, rural living male. I own a couple of guns for strictly utilitarian reasons. The last time I used my shotgun was to kill a fox that wouldn’t leave our yard. It was submitted to the department of agriculture local field office and tested positive for rabies.

I last used my hangun a year or so before that. A badly injured deer that may have taken days to finish dying collapsed in my parking area at work. The game commission couldn’t respond until later in the week, a state cop told us he wasn’t allowed to fire his weapon in situations like this. So I killed it.

I’m no more attracted to guns than I am to cordless drills, ladders, or flashlights.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5975 "2015-10-05T11:33:34Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I’m a white, rural living male. I own a couple of guns for strictly utilitarian reasons. The last time I used my shotgun was to kill a fox that wouldn’t leave our yard. It was submitted to the department of agriculture local field office and tested positive for rabies.
> 
> I last used my hangun a year or so before that. A badly injured deer that may have taken days to finish dying collapsed in my parking area at work. The game commission couldn’t respond until later in the week, a state cop told us he wasn’t allowed to fire his weapon in situations like this. So I killed it.
> 
> I’m no more attracted to guns than I am to cordless drills, ladders, or flashlights.

Sorry, you’re saying that because you own and use guns that you’re not attracted to them? Doesn’t follow.

Anyway, I meant from a personal protection angle, and I should’ve been clearer. The people least likely to be the victim of a crime, least likely to be hassled by cops, and least likely to be the victim of domestic violence are the ones most likely to be in favor of weak gun laws. I find that ironic.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5976 "2015-10-05T11:51:42Z")

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Anyone who thinks I’m exaggerating about the utter freakiness of gun freaks missed a recent post in another thread:

> [@Common sense gun legislation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-sense-gun-legislation/733300/74):
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> I’ll trade you.
> 
> I’ll go along with that, if you’ll go along with my addendum:
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> 1. Everybody who can pass a background check is **REQUIRED** to own a gun.
> 2. Any such person who cannot afford a gun will be provided one free of charge by the government.
> 3. Gun ownership is a requirement for any elected office.
> 4. Giving away, destroying, mutilating, or anything else that renders a gun unusable by the original owner shall be punished by a mandatory 15-year prison term.
> 5. Any person who cannot pass the handgun aptitude test shall be given free remedial lessons for at least 3 months.
> 6. There shall be no restriction on any form of carry of any type of weapon in any place whatsoever.
> 7. Anybody who calls the police at the sight of somebody calmly open carrying shall be given a 6-month prison sentence for misuse of emergency services.

I didn’t click “Find recent posts by Flyer.” Apologies for Flyer if this was parody. Pity for Flyer if it wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5977 "2015-10-05T13:28:57Z")

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This has been making the rounds:

> [@](#):
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> Or, hey, how about we treat every young man who wants to buy a gun like every woman who wants to get an abortion — mandatory 48-hr waiting period, parental permission, a note from his doctor proving he understands what he’s about to do, a video he has to watch about the effects of gun violence, an ultrasound wand up the ass (just because). Let’s close down all but one gun shop in every state and make him travel hundreds of miles, take time off work, and stay overnight in a strange town to get a gun. Make him walk through a gauntlet of people holding photos of loved ones who were shot to death, people who call him a murderer and beg him not to buy a gun.
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> It makes more sense to do this with young men and guns than with women and health care, right? I mean, no woman getting an abortion has killed a room full of people in seconds, right?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5978 "2015-10-05T14:42:21Z")

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> [@Common sense gun legislation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-sense-gun-legislation/733300/74):
>
> I’ll trade you.
> 
> I’ll go along with that, if you’ll go along with my addendum:
> 
> 1. Everybody who can pass a background check is **REQUIRED** to own a gun.
> 2. Any such person who cannot afford a gun will be provided one free of charge by the government.
> 3. Gun ownership is a requirement for any elected office.
> 4. Giving away, destroying, mutilating, or anything else that renders a gun unusable by the original owner shall be punished by a mandatory 15-year prison term.
> 5. Any person who cannot pass the handgun aptitude test shall be given free remedial lessons for at least 3 months.
> 6. There shall be no restriction on any form of carry of any type of weapon in any place whatsoever.
> 7. Anybody who calls the police at the sight of somebody calmly open carrying shall be given a 6-month prison sentence for misuse of emergency services.

> [@septimus](#):
>
> Anyone who thinks I’m exaggerating about the utter freakiness of gun freaks missed a recent post in another thread:
> 
> I didn’t click “Find recent posts by Flyer.” Apologies for Flyer if this was parody. Pity for Flyer if it wasn’t.

I guess if it was required by law, I’d own one. However, he doesn’t say anything about having to own ammunition, and I’d probably keep it in a safe deposit box, since I have no real use for it and it’s a potential hazard to keep it around the house.

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5979 "2015-10-05T16:00:26Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I know a guy who always carries. He refuses to sit in a restaurant with his back to the door, and he won’t go to a move theater that doesn’t allow the carrying of a weapon. He strikes me as the last guy we want carrying a gun around.

This is pretty widespread. If you hang around a firing range you’ll quickly learn what businesses do or do not allow firearms. “So And So doesn’t allow firearms anymore, guess I’ll never go there again.”

People plan their lives around their gun. My dad is a lightweight gun nut. For years, his dream has been to go to Alaska but he won’t fly. He finally looked into driving but found that you can’t take a gun into Canada. Welp, so much for Alaska.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5980 "2015-10-05T16:10:36Z")

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Three cheers for Florida: [New bill](http://wonkette.com/594545/florida-would-like-to-give-you-200k-for-killing-someone-as-long-as-its-self-defense) would give up to $200,000 to anyone who kills someone in “self-defense,” and the burden is shifted to the prosecution.

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