# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 300
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5981 "2015-10-05T16:12:09Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I know a guy who always carries. He refuses to sit in a restaurant with his back to the door, and he won’t go to a move theater that doesn’t allow the carrying of a weapon. He strikes me as the last guy we want carrying a gun around. That’s a good general rule right there: Anybody who thinks they need to carry probably shouldn’t be allowed to. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5982 "2015-10-05T16:20:22Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > People plan their lives around their gun. My dad is a lightweight gun nut. For years, his dream has been to go to Alaska … Welp, so much for Alaska. I’m pretty sure he could buy one there. Or maybe even rent one. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5983 "2015-10-05T16:43:46Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I’m pretty sure he could buy one there. Or maybe even rent one. Yes but do you really expect him to drive all the way through Canada without one? ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5984 "2015-10-05T20:42:03Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > People plan their lives around their gun. My dad is a lightweight gun nut. For years, his dream has been to go to Alaska but he won’t fly. He finally looked into driving but found that you can’t take a gun into Canada. Welp, so much for Alaska. This page from the RCMP site seems to say there are provisions for transporting firearms: [http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/trans-eng.htm](http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/trans-eng.htm) ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5985 "2015-10-05T21:23:11Z")
> [@](#): > > An 11-year-old boy has been charged with murder after he killed his 8-year-old neighbor, police said, and witnesses say it was because the girl wouldn’t let him see her puppy. > > Deputies were called to the neighborhood in White Pine, about 40 miles east of Knoxville, on Saturday night. The boy shot the girl from inside his home with his father’s 12-gauge shotgun, said Jefferson County Sheriff Bud McCoig. > > Latasha Dyer told WATE-TV ([http://bit.ly/1KWbDPA](http://bit.ly/1KWbDPA)) her daughter was playing outside when the next-door neighbor asked to see the puppy. McKayla told the boy “no,” and he shot her, Dyer said. A neighbor, Misty Edwards, said her niece was playing with the girl and saw what happened. [http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/boy-11-accused-killing-year-neighbor-shotgun-34262288](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/boy-11-accused-killing-year-neighbor-shotgun-34262288) ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5986 "2015-10-06T01:34:13Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I know a guy who always carries. He refuses to sit in a restaurant with his back to the door, and he won’t go to a move theater that doesn’t allow the carrying of a weapon. He strikes me as the last guy we want carrying a gun around. Don’t make any sudden moves around him. Sounds like he’s itching to play Wild Bill Hickok. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5987 "2015-10-06T01:42:37Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > This page from the RCMP site seems to say there are provisions for transporting firearms: [http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/trans-eng.htm](http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/trans-eng.htm) A baby’s soother would be easier and cheaper. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5988 "2015-10-06T03:34:30Z")
> [@Esox\_Lucius](#): > > Don’t make any sudden moves around him. Sounds like he’s itching to play Wild Bill Hickok. Exactly. He strikes me as paranoid. He’s not someone I hang out with. He’s more a friend of a friend. I’ve only met him in person once and, while I wouldn’t avoid a social occasion just because he’s there, he’s not someone I’d go out of my way to be around. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5989 "2015-10-06T03:41:14Z")
You wouldn’t want to sit with your back to him.😃 ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5990 "2015-10-06T03:44:35Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Exactly. He strikes me as paranoid. > > He’s not someone I hang out with. He’s more a friend of a friend. I’ve only met him in person once and, while I wouldn’t avoid a social occasion just because he’s there, he’s not someone I’d go out of my way to be around. Sounds like a cool dude to me. The anti-inanimate object people flip out over the number of random shootings in this country and then flip out when someone prepares to defend themselves from one. I’ll take that dude in my group over the beta male sporting her rape whistle any day. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5991 "2015-10-06T04:06:14Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Sounds like a cool dude to me. > > The anti-inanimate object people flip out over the number of random shootings in this country and then flip out when someone prepares to defend themselves from one. > > I’ll take that dude in my group over the beta male sporting her rape whistle any day. He’s paranoid. The guy won’t sit with his back to a door. That’s not normal. And what’s with the “anti-inanimate object” talk? What? I’m anti-rocks? I’m anti-chairs and tables? If you mean “gun”, then say “gun”. Otherwise you’re just going to confuse people and any point you’re trying to make will get lost. And the “rape whistle” non-sequitur doesn’t help with your credibility either. And I’m not anti-gun in principle. I just think that there’s a right place and a wrong place. For most people, the odds that you’ll need a gun during your day to day life are so remote that it ends up being more of a liability (accidents, theft, curious children grabbing at it, etc.) than an asset. When it’s in the possession of a nervous individual who’s constantly on alert as to who might walk through a door, it’s an outright danger. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5992 "2015-10-06T04:35:21Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > He’s paranoid. The guy won’t sit with his back to a door. That’s not normal. > > And what’s with the “anti-inanimate object” talk? What? I’m anti-rocks? I’m anti-chairs and tables? If you mean “gun”, then say “gun”. Otherwise you’re just going to confuse people and any point you’re trying to make will get lost. And the “rape whistle” non-sequitur doesn’t help with your credibility either. > > And I’m not anti-gun in principle. I just think that there’s a right place and a wrong place. For most people, the odds that you’ll need a gun during your day to day life are so remote that it ends up being more of a liability (accidents, theft, curious children grabbing at it, etc.) than an asset. When it’s in the possession of a nervous individual who’s constantly on alert as to who might walk through a door, it’s an outright danger. Being fully aware of your surroundings and being paranoid are two different things. Just because you can’t differentiate between the two doesn’t mean other people can’t. I have a CCW and the chances of an accident, theft or child grabbing my gun is zero. Amazingly as it sounds, you would never even know I had a gun on me. Now if someone strolls in and starts blasting people, by all means run up to him and give him a stern word on the evils of guns. Give someone like your buddy or me time to aim center mass and help decide our fates for ourselves. Meat shields are a bonus to have around as well 😃 ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5993 "2015-10-06T04:49:58Z")
I can tell the difference perfectly well. The gentleman in question has a problem with risk assessment. It’s not normal or healthy in non-combat situations to be constantly on the alert like that. This man was shot in the past (apparently because he drew first) so he may be suffering PTSD. Unless I’m being wooshed and you’re actually deliberately acting as an example of the type of person this thread is about in order to make a point, the polite thing would be for you to take your silly strawman attacks and thread hijacking elsewhere. You can start your own thread: “Stupid anti-inanimate object people and rape whistle sporting beta males news of the day…”. It may be a rather lonely thread… ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5994 "2015-10-06T05:59:38Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > An 11-year-old boy has been charged with murder after he killed his 8-year-old neighbor, police said, and witnesses say it was because the girl wouldn’t let him see her puppy. Chalk up another tragedy to the gun-control fiends. The Second Commandment contains no age threshold. McKayla Dyer was entitled to pack her own weapon and stand her ground. Had America’s libtard anti-gun culture not deprived Miss Dyer of her constitutional right to a gun for self-defence, the neighbor might have thought twice before pulling the trigger. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5995 "2015-10-06T06:39:00Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > I have a CCW and the chances of an accident, theft or child grabbing my gun is zero. Amazingly as it sounds, you would never even know I had a gun on me. > > Now if someone strolls in and starts blasting people, by all means run up to him and give him a stern word on the evils of guns. Give someone like your buddy or me time to aim center mass and help decide our fates for ourselves. > > Meat shields are a bonus to have around as well 😃 More people die from head injuries than are killed by guns. If you were so concerned about your personal safety, you’d be much better off wearing a helmet everywhere instead of a gun. That’s not really why you wear a gun, is it? The phrase “Give…me time to aim center mass” is telling. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5996 "2015-10-06T08:20:21Z")
Seems he’s confused his manhood with an inanimate object as well. I wonder what he’d say if someone told him there are entire countries where gun ownership is rare, yet they still manage to procreate? I also think it’s telling that there can be complete boneheads making the gun advocate side look not just dumb, but insane, yet no more moderate advocates care enough to even distance themselves from the crazy. I know there are moderates, they post that they’d be willing to accept (such a giant leap!) _registration of handguns_ (gasp!) if they were asked pretty please and got an ironclad guarantee that their freedom to pursue a hobby would never be eroded beyond that step. I’m being unfair, I think andros pointed out the difference between him and coocoo mckrazy here. Still, if he was on my side, I’d be throwing rocks along with the rest of the relatively sane people. Lovely snark, septimus, btw. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5997 "2015-10-06T13:17:27Z")
This is from KHOU, in Houston Texas. Thank God there was a good guy with a gun present. > [@](#): > > **One man injured after carjacking, shooting at gas station** > Houston police responded to a shooting call around 11:15 p.m. Saturday at a Valero gas station on Jensen Drive at Reid Street in north Houston. Officials say two men jumped another man in the gas station parking lot and took the victim’s Chevrolet pickup truck. Police say a witness then pulled out a gun and began shooting at the suspects, accidentally hitting the carjacking victim in the head. > > The victim was transported to a nearby hospital where he remains in stable condition. Police say the witness who shot at the suspects picked up shell casings and left the scene. [http://www.khou.com/story/news/2015/09/27/one-man-injured-after-carjacking-shooting-at-gas-station/72923278/](http://www.khou.com/story/news/2015/09/27/one-man-injured-after-carjacking-shooting-at-gas-station/72923278/) ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5998 "2015-10-06T13:41:27Z")
Yes, thank God, a Chevy truck was at stake. ETA: sorry, I see you sarcasm now. I didn’t realize the good Samaritan shot the victim not the perp. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/5999 "2015-10-06T14:15:41Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > I have a CCW and the chances of an accident, theft or child grabbing my gun is zero. Amazingly as it sounds, you would never even know I had a gun on me. The only way this could be possible were if you didn’t have a gun on you in the first place, Mr. Perfect. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6000 "2015-10-06T14:42:35Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > I have a CCW and the chances of an accident, theft or child grabbing my gun is zero. A whole lot of people have thought it could never happen to them, until one day it did. There is no such thing as zero risk. A claim that there is indicates a capacity for self-delusion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=299) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=301)