# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6481 "2015-11-25T09:50:55Z")

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If only the protesters themselves had had guns…

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6482 "2015-11-25T15:07:46Z")

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[And this is why the media does not call them “terrorists.”](http://www.salon.com/2015/11/25/why_white_people_arent_called_terrorist_the_media_accepts_that_people_who_resort_to_violence_are_left_wing_or_arab_or_both/)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6483 "2015-11-25T15:12:03Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Five shot at BLM protest in Minneapolis.](http://www.salon.com/2015/11/24/five_people_shot_at_black_lives_matter_protest_in_minneapolis_police/) Apparently by white supremacists.

Sorry for the minor hijack, but when I read this, my first thought was “Why is anyone protesting the Bureau of Land Management?”

Never even considered Black Lives Matter.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6484 "2015-11-25T15:46:12Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Sorry for the minor hijack, but when I read this, my first thought was “Why is anyone protesting the Bureau of Land Management?”

I’m sure Cliven Bundy would give you a reason . . .

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6485 "2015-11-25T16:02:42Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> If only the protesters themselves had had guns…

You can’t initiate an assault then legally claim self defense when you get shot at.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6486 "2015-11-25T17:46:11Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You can’t initiate an assault then legally claim self defense when you get shot at.

What did the protesters do that constituted an assault?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6487 "2015-11-27T22:23:43Z")

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Sadly, yet another tragedy is unfolding in [Colorado Springs](http://gazette.com/active-shooter-situation-reported-near-planned-parenthood-in-colorado-springs/article/1564419), but this sub-incident strikes me as qualifying for this thread.

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> There was a moment this afternoon when a man walked up to the scene with a handgun strapped to his waist and ammunition vest around his chest. He appeared to be asking police if he could help. Officers told him to leave immediately because appearing at the scene while wearing firearms and that equipment was a bad idea.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6488 "2015-11-27T23:54:38Z")

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And here’s [another nice man](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/mississippi-man-guns-down-waffle-house-waitress-after-she-asks-him-not-to-smoke/) who was just trying to get some God Damn smoking time in at the local Waffle House.

Probably the waitress’ fault. He was just standing his ground.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6489 "2015-11-28T05:28:38Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> And here’s [another nice man](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/mississippi-man-guns-down-waffle-house-waitress-after-she-asks-him-not-to-smoke/) who was just trying to get some God Damn smoking time in at the local Waffle House.
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> Probably the waitress’ fault. He was just standing his ground.

“Probably”? You mean _totally_. Those Waffle Houses are full of thugs and liberals trying to take away the personal liberty to go into restaurants while carrying a gun and doing whatever else you feel like doing! I got an email saying that waitress was armed with a pen, too, and that she called him a stupid cracker asshole. No white man should have to accept that from some thuggish thug or possibly white woman. [Does this man look like a stupid cracker asshole to you?](http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/f8bb17a65de6fb920ce325665ae55d6d17b11541/c=33-0-671-480&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2015/11/27/JacksonMS/JacksonMS/635842164719802350-Johnny-Max-Mount.jpg) No sir!

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6490 "2015-11-28T20:45:57Z")

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Right wing echo chambers spawn killers, I sure hope this doesn’t impact any responsible gun owners’ rights to carry guns wherever they feel like it, like mosques and BLM protests.

> **[Three Men Who Shot Black Lives Matter Protesters Emerged From Internet’s...](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/11/25/three-men-who-shot-black-lives-matter-protesters-emerged-internet%E2%80%99s-racist-swamps)**
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> White supremacists involved in Minneapolis mayhem left behind a trail of emails, chat rooms, websites, reveling in the extremist right.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6491 "2015-11-28T21:57:11Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> Right wing echo chambers spawn killers, I sure hope this doesn’t impact any responsible gun owners’ rights to carry guns wherever they feel like it, like mosques and BLM protests.
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> [https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/11/25/three-men-who-shot-black-lives-matter-protesters-emerged-internet’s-racist-swamps](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/11/25/three-men-who-shot-black-lives-matter-protesters-emerged-internet%E2%80%99s-racist-swamps)

I’m getting quick fucking sick and tired of terrorists attacking innocent people. It’s time something was done about these people. Perhaps we can deport them back to where they came from.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6492 "2015-11-29T00:31:26Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’m getting quick fucking sick and tired of terrorists attacking innocent people. It’s time something was done about these people. Perhaps we can deport them back to where they came from.

Better yet, let’s send ‘our’ terrorists over there to fight the ‘real’ ones. Cheaper than taking them to court - and an old American tradition - I went through basic training with two guys who were there 'cuz a judge told them it was the Army or jail.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6493 "2015-11-29T01:09:47Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> Right wing echo chambers spawn killers, I sure hope this doesn’t impact any responsible gun owners’ rights to carry guns wherever they feel like it, like mosques and BLM protests.
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> [https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/11/25/three-men-who-shot-black-lives-matter-protesters-emerged-internet’s-racist-swamps](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/11/25/three-men-who-shot-black-lives-matter-protesters-emerged-internet%E2%80%99s-racist-swamps)

Wait, is this article from 1965 or something? Bill O’Reilly told me that racism was over. I’m so confused.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6494 "2015-11-29T05:59:07Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> Right wing echo chambers spawn killers, I sure hope this doesn’t impact any responsible gun owners’ rights to carry guns wherever they feel like it, like mosques and BLM protests.
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> [https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/11/25/three-men-who-shot-black-lives-matter-protesters-emerged-internet’s-racist-swamps](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/11/25/three-men-who-shot-black-lives-matter-protesters-emerged-internet%E2%80%99s-racist-swamps)

Or to use second amendment solutions with their political opponents. Another responsible gun owner, right up until he wasn’t.

> **[Planned Parenthood shooting suspect made comment about 'no more baby parts':...](https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/planned-parenthood-shooting-suspect-made-comment-about-no-more-baby-parts-sources-msna732966)**
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> Officials tell NBC News a motive remains unclear, but say the Planned Parenthood shooting suspect talked about politics and abortion.

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> Sources said there would have been nothing apparent in Dear’s background — including a felony conviction or previous mental health issue — that would have disqualified him from buying an AK-47 style, high-powered rifle used in the shootings.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6495 "2015-12-01T04:43:26Z")

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Man cleaning shotgun [shoots 7-month-old infant](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-new-york-man-who-was-cleaning-gun-fatally-shot-infant/).

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> According to police, Bartle was allegedly cleaning his shotgun in the living room of the home Saturday. Bartle allegedly had the weapon on his lap, pointed in the direction of the child.
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> According to police, Bartle loaded the weapon and installed an accessory grip. Police say when Bartle went to stand up, the gun fired and hit the child in the upper body area just before 6 p.m. Saturday evening.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6496 "2015-12-01T21:41:33Z")

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[Six year-old shoots and kills herself](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/cops-6-year-old-atlanta-girl-shot-herself-dad-char/npYJf/), the fourth young Georgian child to die at their own hands after finding a gun in the last 6 weeks.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6497 "2015-12-01T21:47:39Z")

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And more from Georgia. Why suffer those embarrassing Thanksgiving family arguments when you can whip out a gun and [kill those troublesome](http://mdjonline.com/view/full_story/26978705/article-Police--Domestic-dispute-led-to-double-homicide-in-Acworth-on-Thanksgiving?instance=special_coverage_bullets_right_column) [family members](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/dekalb-teen-shot-and-killed-allegedly-by-stepdad/npXQQ/)?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6498 "2015-12-02T06:36:39Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> [Six year-old shoots and kills herself](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/cops-6-year-old-atlanta-girl-shot-herself-dad-char/npYJf/), the fourth young Georgian child to die at their own hands after finding a gun in the last 6 weeks.

The owners of those guns should be thrown into the deepest, darkest cell in the State of Georgia and never, ever let out again.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6499 "2015-12-02T09:09:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Georgia law does not penalize a person who negligently stores a firearm, even if a minor gains access to it.

> **[Child Access Prevention & Safe Storage in Georgia](https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/child-access-prevention-and-safe-storage-in-georgia/)**
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> Research Georgia state laws on child access prevention and safe storage, including what's regulated and what's not. Learn gun law details from Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence today.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6500 "2015-12-02T11:47:09Z")

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It’s official. More Americans are now killed annually by firearms than by motor vehicles.

Although it’s imperfect (e.g. more gun deaths per capita in New Mexico than in Utah), it will come as no surprise that [firearm deaths by state](http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5589cdcaeab8ea2c4d634e48-1200-970/kaiser-foundation-gun-deaths-state-map.png) are highest in the states that vote stupid.

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