# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 330
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6581 "2015-12-11T11:21:55Z")
Gun Activists Plan to Stage a [Fake Mass Shooting This Weekend](http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/12/gun-activists-are-planning-stage-mock-mass-shooting) > [@](#): > > According to the website Statesman, gun rights supporters will begin the day by marching through Austin with loaded weapons and conclude their walk with a “theatrical performance.” > > A spokesman for the two participating gun rights groups, Come and Take It Texas and [DontComply.com](http://DontComply.com), told the site the event will involve using fake blood and bullhorns to mimic gunshot noises. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6582 "2015-12-11T13:38:26Z")
I’m not sure if we covered this last year, but a woman who opened fire on a shoplifter has been [sentenced to 18 months probation](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/michigan-woman-pouts-after-losing-gun-permit-for-shooting-at-shoplifters-i-will-never-help-anybody-again/). > [@](#): > > “Hopefully someone has sat down with her and talked with her about what responsible gun ownership is all about,” said Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper. > > Duva-Rodriguez said she had learned a lesson from the incident. > > “I tried to help, and I learned my lesson that I will never help anybody again,” she said after her sentencing. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6583 "2015-12-11T13:53:57Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I’m not sure if we covered this last year, but a woman who opened fire on a shoplifter has been [sentenced to 18 months probation](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/michigan-woman-pouts-after-losing-gun-permit-for-shooting-at-shoplifters-i-will-never-help-anybody-again/). > [@](#): > > “I tried to help, and I learned my lesson that I will never help anybody again,” she said after her sentencing. For all of the anybodies in the world, may I just say, _“Whew!!”_ ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6584 "2015-12-11T16:39:17Z")
People in Third World countries are probably wondering what our problem is with Ms. Duva-Rodriguez. After all, she exemplifies our tendency to ‘help’ such countries by dropping bombs on them. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6585 "2015-12-11T16:41:18Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > My point is to refute the kind of ignorant idiocy about ARs and AKs that led to this masterpiece of understanding: So nobody’s saying anything like that in this thread, but some librul said something like that once upon a time. So that’s why you’re taking issue with stuff that’s been said here. Gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6586 "2015-12-11T17:19:20Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Gun Activists Plan to Stage a [Fake Mass Shooting This Weekend](http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/12/gun-activists-are-planning-stage-mock-mass-shooting) This is going to end up being a story line in a crime show. They stage a fake event and someone will use it as a cover to actually shoot and kill someone. It almost writes itself. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6587 "2015-12-12T03:05:29Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > This is going to end up being a story line in a crime show. They stage a fake event and someone will use it as a cover to actually shoot and kill someone. It almost writes itself. Will you be bitterly disappointed if it doesn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6588 "2015-12-12T15:13:29Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Will you be bitterly disappointed if it doesn’t? That the story doesn’t get used in a show? Because I’m pretty sure that’s what they meant, not that they’re making popcorn in preparation for an actual killing. ---
**Author:** ![ChickenLegs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@ChickenLegs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChickenLegs)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6589 "2015-12-12T16:10:19Z")
The whole problem with the “high-powered” term is the media and gun controllers use it sensationalize their causes. Of course (most) rifles are high-powered. We use them to kill things. For comparison, some rifles I own, their cartridges, and the approximate muzzle energy of a typical load. Muzzle energy if the energy of a single bullet as it exits the muzzle. (Not to be confused with muscle energy, or mussel energy, which are different things entirely.) Henry lever-action .22 rifle. Looks like a cowboy rifle. About 100 ft.-lbs. AK-47 pattern rifle. Would be prohibited under most all “assault weapons” bans. Caliber 7.62 x 39. About 1500 ft.-lbs. Remington Woodsmaster semi-auto rifle, caliber .30-06. A deer rifle. About 3000 ft.-lbs. Marlin 1895G Guide Gun. Another lever-action, like a cowboy’s rifle. Caliber .45-70. About 4000 ft.-lbs. with heavy loads. Assault rifles were designed to use an intermediate-powered cartridge, somewhere between a submachine gun’s pistol caliber ammo, like 9mm Parabellum or. 45 auto, and a full-powered rifle cartridge, like 8mm Mauser or .30-06 Springfield. This was considered to be powerful enough for most all combat ranges, and allowed the transportation of more ammo. The 5.56 x 45mm (.223 Remington) cartridge typically chambered by AR-15 rifles is generally-considered too puny for hunting deer, and I illegal for that purpose in some areas. I certainly don’t consider it “high-powered.” Its muzzle energy is about 1300 ft.-lbs. Of course, there’s more to ballistics than just muzzle energy, especially bullet weight, as a heavier, slower bullet will usually penetrate more than an a lighter, faster one with the same energy. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6590 "2015-12-12T17:06:32Z")
By way of our good friends at _Crooks and Liars_, a fart blast from the past, Tom Tancredo. (Who? Oh, right, _him_!) [http://crooksandliars.com/2015/12/colorado-republican-proposes-welfare](http://crooksandliars.com/2015/12/colorado-republican-proposes-welfare) **Colorado Republican Proposes Welfare Solution: Give Everyone Guns** Nope. Totally not making this up. > [@](#): > > …“Terrorists and criminals already know how to obtain guns, so why not help the defenseless? If we can afford food stamps and housing subsidies, why not gun stamps to help urban citizens survive the next Islamist assault?”… Forgotten, but not gone. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6591 "2015-12-13T19:03:30Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Gun Activists Plan to Stage a [Fake Mass Shooting This Weekend](http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/12/gun-activists-are-planning-stage-mock-mass-shooting) [UT tells ammosexuals, “not gonna happen, not on our campus”](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/10/1458872/-UT-releases-statement-on-planned-staged-mass-shooting-on-campus-advocates-won-t-like-the-response?detail=email). ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6592 "2015-12-13T19:49:47Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > ammosexuals, HATE SPEECH! HATE SPEECH! I’M SUING! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6593 "2015-12-13T20:29:46Z")
Would you prefer “gundamentalists”? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6594 "2015-12-13T22:54:33Z")
Ballistiphiliacs. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6595 "2015-12-13T22:58:18Z")
Has anyone tried to market a variation of “truck nuts” to attach to a gun? Sell gun nuts to gun nuts? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6596 "2015-12-14T19:51:32Z")
[Officials say a 12-year-old boy has fatally shot an 11-year-old classmate in southern Tennessee](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/db2b71caab1a41afbe485e9693a26b07/police-11-year-old-tennessee-girl-fatally-shot-classmate). ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6597 "2015-12-15T16:07:12Z")
[Police look for pair after a gun goes off at Fridley Target store](http://www.startribune.com/police-look-for-pair-who-discharged-gun-at-fridley-target-store/361829981/) > [@](#): > > Fridley police are searching for a man and woman after a shot was fired as the pair checked out at Target Sunday afternoon. > > Police said a man and woman entered Target, at 755 53rd Av., and were paying for snacks and a soda at 5:20 p.m. The pair chatted with the clerk, sharing that they were on a 12- to 15-hour road trip. > > The man reached to adjust something on his ankle. Then a shot struck the floor. Police did not say whether the handgun was in an ankle holster or had fallen from a pocket. > > The couple ran out of the store and fled in a red or maroon two-door vehicle. A pretty good photo was included in the article and a good description given. I’m guessing, they’ll be caught in the Dakotas or Wisconsin. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6598 "2015-12-15T16:35:51Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > But I can’t help but wonder how the Republican party’s fetishized love of guns 22% of Democrats and 37% of Independents own guns compared to 49% of Republicans. There is not a stark partisan divide on the gun issue except the one that the gun control folks want to create. When gun control folks marginalize gun owners generally, they alienate a good chunk of the Democratic party and a good chunk of swing voters. This may be the single worst liberal issue for a Democrat running in a national election. I expect to see “leaked photos” of Hillary duck hunting sometime during the general election. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6599 "2015-12-15T16:39:52Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > They might also point out that at least cars and alcohol are restricted and controlled far more than firearms are…so there’s that. Really? You have to pass a federal background check to buy a car or alcohol? You have to fill out a form under penalty of perjury and show two forms of ID to buy something at the liquor store? I think you are reading hyperbole from some gun control folks and fail to realize it is hyperbole. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6600 "2015-12-15T16:59:44Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > When gun control folks marginalize gun owners generally Examples, please! How do gun control folks marginalize gun owners as a class? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=329) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=331)