# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 332
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6621 "2016-01-03T21:49:45Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > [27 shots fired at a family member.](http://www.ktnv.com/news/off-duty-police-officer-accidentally-shoots-relative-in-north-las-vegas) Ruled accidental. > > How in the fuck is 27 shots an accident? Wow. I thought this would be a case of someone coming home early from college or something, but according to the article, the person they shot lives there with them. And 27 shots? If I were the DA, I would want to know a lot more about how well they were getting along. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6622 "2016-01-03T23:28:52Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > [27 shots fired at a family member.](http://www.ktnv.com/news/off-duty-police-officer-accidentally-shoots-relative-in-north-las-vegas) Ruled accidental. > > How in the fuck is 27 shots an accident? I was going to snark and say that the shooter was a police officer. Then I clicked the link… ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6623 "2016-01-04T04:25:40Z")
[A responsible gun owner](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/01/02/texas-responsible-gun-owner-shoots-6-year-old-in-spine-after-family-makes-wrong-turn-video/) shoots a 6 year old girl in the spine after her father makes a wrong turn. He stops in a parking lot to reset the GPS and the responsible gun owner gets upset because their headlights are shining into his car so he gets out and starts shooting. As every responsible gun owner should. This was in Texas. I suspect the responsible gun owner will end up getting a medal pinned to his chest by Greg Abbott and Wayne LaPierre. Nice work gentlemen. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6624 "2016-01-04T15:02:55Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > [A responsible gun owner](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/01/02/texas-responsible-gun-owner-shoots-6-year-old-in-spine-after-family-makes-wrong-turn-video/) shoots a 6 year old girl in the spine after her father makes a wrong turn. He stops in a parking lot to reset the GPS and the responsible gun owner gets upset because their headlights are shining into his car so he gets out and starts shooting. As every responsible gun owner should. > > This was in Texas. I suspect the responsible gun owner will end up getting a medal pinned to his chest by Greg Abbott and Wayne LaPierre. Nice work gentlemen. Yes, the linked article sarcastically used the word “responsible”; but nothing it said indicates that this was a licensed carrier who suddenly went postal. My guess is that it will turn out to be a person with a history of violence who might not have had a carry permit or even could own a gun legally. As for the idea that open carry allowed him to ambush the victims without warning, I would ask was he in fact open carrying, and at what point would advance warning have done any good? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6625 "2016-01-04T19:00:45Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > [27 shots fired at a family member.](http://www.ktnv.com/news/off-duty-police-officer-accidentally-shoots-relative-in-north-las-vegas) Ruled accidental. > > How in the fuck is 27 shots an accident? The way they throw around ‘accidental’ in shootings like that is just crazy. Same thing in the Florida case I mentioned yesterday: > [@](#): > > St. Cloud officials characterized the death as accidental Excuse me, but AFAWK the mother _fully intended_ to shoot someone. “Oops, I thought I was perforating _someone else_” is not an accident. A tragedy, in this case, but not an _accident._ ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6626 "2016-01-04T19:33:45Z")
Maybe the North Las Vegas police were being sarcastic when they said “accidental”. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6627 "2016-01-05T15:44:53Z")
> [@kenetic](#): > > Where’s that quote from? post 51 ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6628 "2016-01-05T15:48:10Z")
> [@kenetic](#): > > From what I’ve seen on these boards, when pro-gun control people make fun of anti-gun control people, it’s because they’ve tried rational arguments but have hit a brick wall of willfull ignorance and disingenuous arguments, whereas the anti-gun control people start from the position that pro-gun control people are maliciously plotting to take away their guns, or are weak, cowardly people who are afraid to defend themselves. > > In response to **DA** ’s strawman (which I assume is not actually a direct quote), I’d say that gun control people view this as a dispute between reasonable people, some of whom own guns and some of whom do not, who want to institute measures that have been proven to reduce gun violence, and people who irrationally cling to wild west fantasies and believe that facts and statistics somehow don’t apply to them. Yes, of course, you see your side as being reasonable and anything unreasonable they do is the result of the unreasonable positions of the other side. The fact of the matter is that your side is largely ignorant of the issues and generally know little to nothing about guns or gun laws and when we don’t agree with you in your ignorance you throw a hissy fit. Its just a guess but I’m going to guess that about 90% of the stuff you know to be true about gun and gun control is not actually true. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6629 "2016-01-05T15:53:28Z")
> [@ChickenLegs](#): > > Lever actions are far from rare or expensive. A lever action .30-30 was for many years, and probably still is, one of the most common deer hunting rifles. A Marlin 336C can be had new at any of the chain stores for under $600. Many other brands, models, and calibers exist. Lever actions are fast handling and easy to carry. > > I own a Marlin 1895G Guide Gun (.45-70) myself; ostensibly my camp gun when in bear country, but really because I love chambering those finger-sized rounds and throwing 405-grain projectiles downrange. I also have a Henry .22 lever action that’s all kinds of fun, and around $300 new if I recall. I stand corrected. I guess I just don’t see a lot of lever actions around here and the only ones I see in the store are pretty expensive (they tend to have wood stocks with a lot of detail and etchings in the metal). Same with over/under break action shotguns. They might very well be cheap and plentiful elsewhere but they are uncommon and expensive where I live (once again they tend to be pretty fancy guns). ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6630 "2016-01-05T16:44:22Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > post 51 You kind of have to reference the correct thread - [it’s here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18936114&postcount=51) ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6631 "2016-01-05T18:40:09Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > You kind of have to reference the correct thread - [it’s here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18936114&postcount=51) Ooops, you’re right. I just googled it and didn’t bother to see where it came from. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6632 "2016-01-13T16:11:06Z")
Sad story, [girl shot during an eviction](http://www.ibtimes.com/who-ciara-meyer-12-year-old-girl-fatally-shot-constable-during-central-pennsylvania-2263122). What baffles me is that a man with a family would rather keep his rifle rather than sell it to pay the rent. Odd values. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6633 "2016-01-13T17:45:07Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > Sad story, [girl shot during an eviction](http://www.ibtimes.com/who-ciara-meyer-12-year-old-girl-fatally-shot-constable-during-central-pennsylvania-2263122). > > What baffles me is that a man with a family would rather keep his rifle rather than sell it to pay the rent. Odd values. You sell it, it’s gone, then what next month? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6634 "2016-01-13T18:03:45Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > You sell it, it’s gone, then what next month? The second most valuable thing you own. Priorities. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6635 "2016-01-14T00:59:06Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > The second most valuable thing you own. Priorities. In the past I’ve been General Assistance poor and actually got evicted once for non-payment of rent. Trust me, selling off your possessions to buy a month or two is like cutting off your arm and eating it to stave off starvation. It’s usually ineffective in the end and not worth the loss. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6636 "2016-01-14T01:27:27Z")
Just for completeness, I think this thread should also include the [Paul Revere Patriots story, about the two guys in the pickup truck](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/01/13/co-founder-of-anti-obama-march-shot-between-the-eyes-by-organizer-over-gun-dispute/), where the drunk-ass guy pulled the driver’s guy out of his holster to threaten him with it, but the driver grabbed his spare gun and shot his pal in the head. Dead. That is some pretty USDA-prime stoopid. On another forum, someone posted the message from the group’s FB page. I cannot source it, sorry, but it is a classic. > [@](#): > > I am behooved as to what has happened with Charles Carter and Vincent Smith from the Paul Revere event. The event that sky rocketed in a week has gone to hell and a handbasket in less then 24 hours Charles is dead, shot in the fore head by Vincent Smith. I was in chat with Charles Carter most of the morning and I could see in his post that shit was not right within him. Shortly after Vincent shot Charles then I was on the phone with him and he explained what happened, Vincent was attacked by Charles that was liquored up and enraged. Charles attacked Vincent, snatched his side arm from him and was going to shoot Vincent. Vincent had a spare gun on him and was SOBER and faster then Charles Carter. Vincent Smith I Pray for You Brother as I am Praying for Charles Carter. I Pray that you both find peace. The Texas Marshal has ruled this a self defense, and from talking to Vincent IN DEPTH I Bill Williamson BELIEVE HIM! If I am wrong them so be it. I just wish I was able to call Charles as he ask 15 minutes sooner then I did but unfortunately I couldn’t… Lord please help me figure this out, please stop everyone from jumping the gun and making un informed judgments. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6637 "2016-01-15T01:28:29Z")
Assailants with baseball bats back off when intended victim shows gun: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lHX5jsomq_U/hqdefault.jpg "Muslim Refugees Attacking Frenchman. But He Has a Surprise") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHX5jsomq_U) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6638 "2016-01-15T01:48:24Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Assailants with baseball bats back off when intended victim shows gun: > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player\_embedded&v=lHX5jsomq\_U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lHX5jsomq_U) That would not be stupid gun news if true and would not be a good addition to the thread. That said, the video stinks to high heaven and I don’t believe it for a second. Totally staged. Here, let me give you another video of a good guy with a gun stopping bad guys with bats: :rolleyes: This one does not have the dog whistle politics, but has a similar story. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6639 "2016-01-15T14:44:32Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > That would not be stupid gun news if true and would not be a good addition to the thread. > > That said, the video stinks to high heaven and I don’t believe it for a second. Totally staged. Here, let me give you another video of a good guy with a gun stopping bad guys with bats: :rolleyes: > > This one does not have the dog whistle politics, but has a similar story. Since I neither speak nor read French, I could not evaluate the veracity of the video. If it’s been debunked as bogus I’d like to know. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6640 "2016-01-15T23:12:45Z")
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