# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 335
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6681 "2016-02-03T00:53:12Z")
Interesting link. Wonder how comprehensive it is? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6682 "2016-02-03T01:07:04Z")
> [@OffByOne](#): > > Someone please help me! > > I don’t have a gun, but my home has NEVER been invaded! > > What should I do? > > Won’t someone please HELP me?!? The one time my home was invaded, in Honolulu, it was while I was in the shower. Really. I heard them leaving as I stepped out of the shower stall. So my advice is to be packin’ even when you’re in the shower, just in case. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6683 "2016-02-03T02:23:11Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Yes, and I disagree with your random internet blogger’s conclusions. I don’t think you need to blow a fist sized hole through a guy to stop him. I don’t think you need to drop a guy to stop a guy. > > When these guys say they want to stop a guy they seem to mean kill him dead, no ifs ands or buts. I’m good with just stopping an attacker. I just want to be able to stop Andre the Giant on bath salts. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6684 "2016-02-03T17:35:14Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Clearly you didn’t read the link very well then; the #4 and #1 loads were both _buckshot_. Yes. I misread that. My general point was that a lot of folks think that #1 buckshot is an ineffective defense round because it lacks lethality. I think its sufficient for close range home defense. Must gun sits disagree and prefer round that can punch holes through 2 by 4s. But based on penetration tests, the #1 Bird seems sufficient. I also use #4 buck and I am surprised they have so much penetration. [http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/02/robert-farago/shotgun-penetration-with-various-rounds/](http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/02/robert-farago/shotgun-penetration-with-various-rounds/) ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6685 "2016-02-03T17:41:54Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > The one time my home was invaded, in Honolulu, it was while I was in the shower. Really. I heard them leaving as I stepped out of the shower stall. So my advice is to be packin’ even when you’re in the shower, just in case. I’ve never been home during a home invasion but the one time I found myself in the middle of a riot, I saw a bunch of armed citizens prevent a neighborhood from being looted and burned down. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6686 "2016-02-03T17:46:20Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I’m good with just stopping an attacker. I just want to be able to stop Andre the Giant on bath salts. 😃 I hear you but I think you can over do it. I carry around a spare tire, jump starter and car jack in my car. I do not carry around an extra starter engine and mechanic’s toolkit. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6687 "2016-02-06T11:43:21Z")
8-year-old stole mom’s gun,[tried to rob store](http://www.wral.com/fla-8-year-old-stole-mom-s-gun-tried-to-rob-store/15321374/#T8CG0ObGsHKW9auK.99). > [@](#): > > “When I grabbed my purse, it was so light … I knew I was missing something. I said ‘where’s my gun?’ The first thing I thought was I hope Jaden doesn’t have my gun.” ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6688 "2016-02-06T12:44:50Z")
The little dickens. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6689 "2016-02-06T16:23:36Z")
[Eleven-year old Tennessee boy kills girl who refused to play with him](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/tennessee-boy-11-convicted-killing-8-year-old-girl-article-1.2522410), using his Dad’s shotgun. (This story is a few months old, back in the news with a murder conviction.) [One dead, seven injured in Tampa gentleman’s club.](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-crime-idUSKCN0VF09C) Perhaps these belong in the Positive Gun News thread. Those shot at the strip club probably did something wrong; and the 8-year old Tennessee girl ridiculed the young man’s 2nd Amendment rights. They got what they had coming. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6690 "2016-02-06T23:49:54Z")
[O.C. Sheriff’s deputy loses AR-15 rifle, ammunition after placing case on trunk, driving away in Aliso Viejo](http://www.ocregister.com/articles/deputy-701590-rifle-department.html) > [@](#): > > An Orange County Sheriff’s Department patrol deputy lost an AR-15 rifle late Tuesday night after placing it on the trunk of a patrol vehicle before becoming distracted and driving away. It was seven hours later when he realized the gun was gone. > > It has yet to be found. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6691 "2016-02-08T22:38:02Z")
[Boy, 3, Accidentally Shoots Sister, 9, Dead With Great-Grandfather’s Pistol](http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/14543-boy-3-accidentally-shoots-sister-9-dead-with-great-grandfathers-pistol) - A nine-year-old girl was accidentally shot in the head by her three-year-old little brother over the weekend, authorities say. - Watson (grandfather) said he left the firearm out without knowing his great-grandchildren were coming to visit. - According to the Washington Post, Kimi is the fifth person to be hurt in an accidental shooting by a toddler since Jan. 1. Also this year, at least four toddlers have accidentally shot themselves. Tragic. Of course, Grandpa (presumably a responsible gun owner) didn’t secure his weapon even though he was home when the grandkids were there. No doubt he will live with guilt the rest of his life, but I think he should be charged with whatever is appropriate in his jurisdiction for such criminal negligence. I also think all firearm owners should have liability insurance for such an event. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6692 "2016-02-09T16:48:15Z")
[Thief Who Stole More Than 85 Guns Receives Probation In Plea Deal](http://www.austindailyherald.com/2016/02/gun-thief-sentenced-to-20-years-probation/). This is how criminals get guns. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6693 "2016-02-09T16:52:04Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > [Because Texas, motherfucker!](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/video-catches-mans-gun-waving-road-rage-threat-youre-all-about-to-fcking-get-shot/) > > I know posting a link without comment is poor form, but really, nothing else to say here other than dipshit gun owner road rage. Uh, just to be clear, that happened in Henderson, NV; a few miles from my house, in fact. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6694 "2016-02-09T17:00:36Z")
I almost forgot: police know who both men are and both men have filed incident reports with the police. [Cite](http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/valley-motorcyclist-pickup-driver-both-file-police-reports-after-viral-road-rage). ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6695 "2016-02-09T19:01:58Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > The one time my home was invaded, in Honolulu, it was while I was in the shower. Really. I heard them leaving as I stepped out of the shower stall. So my advice is to be packin’ even when you’re in the shower, just in case. Sorry, this anecdote is quite clearly impossible. Interactions between intruders and unarmed residents always end in death. The fact that you are alive today indicates that you must have used a gun to repel the intruder. Otherwise one would have to believe that come cases of defensive gun use in which people reported how a gun saved their life when they heard a intruder in their house could have been resolved without the use of a firearm, and so don’t actually represent a life saved by a gun, which is preposterous. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6696 "2016-02-12T18:43:10Z")
[Two dead at an Arizona high school](http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/glendale/breaking/2016/02/12/glendale-independence-high-school-shooting/80282174/). No details about who/why. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6697 "2016-02-20T06:14:34Z")
[Mass Shootings Have Already Killed More Americans This Year Than Guns Killed People in Japan in 2014 > [@](#): > > Over the past seven days, America witnessed another three mass shootings. Fortunately, none of the incidents caused any deaths, although they left 13 people wounded. That makes for a sharp contrast with last week, which was the bloodiest so far this year. But the three shootings still pushed America’s mass shooting injuries up to 86 in 2016. Combined with the 29 lives claimed by large-scale shootings in recent weeks—a toll more than four times as high as the number of all gun deaths in Japan in 2014—that means America’s already hit 115 casualties this year. ]([http://www.vice.com/read/mass-shootings-have-already-killed-more-americans-this-year-than-guns-killed-people-in-japan-in-2014](http://www.vice.com/read/mass-shootings-have-already-killed-more-americans-this-year-than-guns-killed-people-in-japan-in-2014)) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6698 "2016-02-25T04:22:23Z")
A 12-year-old girl was accidentally shot in the stomach during a meeting of the “Three Percent of Idaho”, a [del]well regulated[/del] militia allied with Cliven Bundy. It seems a member of the [del]well regulated[/del] militia was cleaning a loaded weapon, as one does, and the girl was foolish enough to have chosen to stand in the path of the bullet. The girl was flown to a hospital. The precious, precious bullet was, tragically, a complete loss. We can only hope the [del]well regulated[/del] militia takes this as a learning opportunity and, at their next scheduled training session, stresses the importance of fire discipline and the conservation of precious, precious ammunition. It has not been announced if the soldier who discharged his weapon will face disciplinary action. The article doesn’t say, but I would think the militiaman would be looking at a poor performance review and perhaps a reduction in rank. At the very least, this spoils any hope of promotion he may have had. > **[12-Year-Old Accidentally Shot In Stomach During Idaho Militia Meeting](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/girl-shot-rupert-gun-range-three-percent-idaho)** > > A 12-year-old girl was accidentally shot through the stomach during a Sunday gathering of the Three Percent of Idaho at a local gun range, according to the militia group’s president. In a brief report… ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6699 "2016-02-25T13:59:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Mass Shootings Have Already Killed More Americans This Year Than Guns Killed People in Japan in 2014](http://www.vice.com/read/mass-shootings-have-already-killed-more-americans-this-year-than-guns-killed-people-in-japan-in-2014) There are more suicide deaths in Japan every year than in America and Japan is only a fraction of the size of America. All this despite the fact that we have guns. Go figure. In other news, more people have died of blowfish poisoning in Japan this year than in all of America in 2014 and Japan is STILL only a fraction of the size of America. How are these comparisons to Japan useful for anything? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/6700 "2016-02-25T15:09:45Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Mass Shootings Have Already Killed More Americans This Year Than Guns Killed People in Japan in 2014](http://www.vice.com/read/mass-shootings-have-already-killed-more-americans-this-year-than-guns-killed-people-in-japan-in-2014) What is it about Japan that should make this statistic particularly meaningful? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=334) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=336)