# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 373
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7441 "2017-01-07T13:39:54Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > From a Facebook post by Jim Wight of Stonekettle Station fame. > The officer then lied about his involvement, hid the weapon and tried to dispose of the slug. > > [News link here.](http://www.michigansthumb.com/news/article/Tuscola-prosecutor-handling-case-of-police-10809995.php) And this genius didn’t think of removing the cartridge from the chamber before testing the pull of the trigger? Folks, guns are not dangerous, stupid people is. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7442 "2017-01-12T04:41:30Z")
Two-Gun Badass thinks he can knock over a gun n’ pawn; gets blown away by white-haired old man. Caught on high-res video!: [Porn GIF by anonymous](https://gfycat.com/SillyEnormousIntermediateegret) ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7443 "2017-01-12T08:05:52Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > Now that we have sane control of the country, can we finally discuss the stupid banning of guns in airports and on planes? [Today in Florida a guy who presumably was once good, went bad and took out his gun and started shooting people](http://wsvn.com/news/local/multiple-people-shot-at-fort-lauderdale-hollywood-intl-airport/). If there had been more good guys with guns, this tragedy could have been averted. Five dead, eight wounded. I’m to lazy to Click Search on **Happy Fun Ball**. Please somebody: Tell me this was delicious parody … and _not_ an example of sincere humanoid cognition. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7444 "2017-01-12T11:06:50Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Two-Gun Badass thinks he can knock over a gun n’ pawn; gets blown away by white-haired old man. > > Caught on high-res video!: [https://gfycat.com/SillyEnormousIntermediateegret](https://gfycat.com/SillyEnormousIntermediateegret) White haired old man with a 10mm. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7445 "2017-01-12T20:56:44Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’m to lazy to Click Search on **Happy Fun Ball**. Please somebody: Tell me this was delicious parody … and _not_ an example of sincere humanoid cognition. based on his posting history I think its a woosh, but Poe’s law is a harsh mistress. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7446 "2017-01-13T00:05:44Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’m to lazy to Click Search on **Happy Fun Ball**. Please somebody: Tell me this was delicious parody … and _not_ an example of sincere humanoid cognition. I suspect **HFB** ’s post is satire, unlike > [@"\[USA](#): > > ([Florida lawmaker: Airport shooting shows need to repeal gun-free zones](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/01/06/florida-lawmaker-airport-shooting-shows-need-repeal-gun-free-zones/96273506/))"] > (FL State Senator Gary Stuebe): "\*My first thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims. But this goes back to the fact why I’ve been working against gun-free zones for the past three years… > > Gun-free zones don’t prevent criminals from breaking the law and killing innocent victims,” Steube. “All that law did was prevent law-abiding citizens who have a concealed-carry permit from carrying their firearm in defense of themselves and others.\*" > > (Steube) is the sponsor of a bill that would eliminate most gun-free zones in Florida. The proposal allows concealed-weapons-permit holders to openly carry handguns in most public places, including airport passenger terminals… Steube’s measure would allow permit holders to carry guns on university campuses, into elementary and secondary schools and while attending legislative meetings. See, right there at the end, “_legislative meetings_”, that is a guarantee is public support. I mean, who does not want that other legislator killed for being a dick? ---
**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7447 "2017-01-13T00:48:07Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > AFAIK there was no ban on guns in the baggage claim areas in this airport. Do you have a cite that says different? [not hard to find.](https://www.floridacarry.org/issues/concealed-and-unconcealed-carry/40-airport-carry-is-legal-in-44-states-but-florida-will-put-you-in-jail) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7448 "2017-01-13T04:00:30Z")
Visitors to the Missouri state Capitol are not allowed to bring guns into the building. So Rep. Nick Marshall is offering to lend a gun to any CCW holder who was not allowed to bring a gun inside. He posted on Facebook: [Quote=Honorable Gun Nut] Effective immediately, any constituent of mine with a CCW that was not allowed to bring his firearm into the Capitol may stop by my office and borrow one for the duration of the visit. [/quote] He posted a similar sign on his office door. I’m not sure why his offer only extends to his own constituents. I guess other residents can go get weapons from their own representatives. Also AIUI (I am not a gun owner or lawyer) you can open carry in Missouri without a permit. It’s unclear to me if Marshall will only lend guns literally to CCW holders, or anyone who wants to tote around a gun in a building full of lawmakers. Also unclear to me is why Marshall will only hand out firearms. What if a constituent’s weapon of choice is a knife, blackjack, club, sword, or halberd? Can he check one of those out from Marshall? > **[Missouri Lawmaker Would Love To Lend You His Gun When You Visit The Capitol](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nick-marshall-missouri-conceal-carry-gun-capitol)** > > A GOP state representative in Missouri is offering to lend out guns to visitors to the state Capitol who are barred from bringing in their own firearms. Rep. Nick Marshall announced his offer… ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7449 "2017-01-13T14:08:03Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Visitors to the Missouri state Capitol are not allowed to bring guns into the building. So Rep. Nick Marshall is offering to lend a gun to any CCW holder who was not allowed to bring a gun inside. He posted on Facebook: > > He posted a similar sign on his office door. I’m not sure why his offer only extends to his own constituents. I guess other residents can go get weapons from their own representatives. Also AIUI (I am not a gun owner or lawyer) you can open carry in Missouri without a permit. It’s unclear to me if Marshall will only lend guns literally to CCW holders, or anyone who wants to tote around a gun in a building full of lawmakers. Also unclear to me is why Marshall will only hand out firearms. What if a constituent’s weapon of choice is a knife, blackjack, club, sword, or halberd? Can he check one of those out from Marshall? I know it makes me a terrible person, but I have guilty visions of someone going to his office, borrowing a gun, and then shooting everyone on his staff. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7450 "2017-01-13T14:29:10Z")
Well, does he say he will provide a loaded one? But that’s silly. He as a legislator may have the privilege to carry inside the grounds but once the visitor has it that other person is now in violation. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7451 "2017-01-17T19:06:47Z")
No one wants to take your hunting rifles away? “Teacher shames young hunter at NE OH school: “Killing animals is not what we do”” > **[Teacher shames young hunter at NE OH school: "Killing animals is not what we...](https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/teacher-shames-young-hunter-ne-oh-school-killing-animals-not-what-we-do)** > > The Medina (OH) Gazette is reporting that a nine year-old first-year apprentice-licensed hunter, whose 2016 Youth Hunt resulted in the harvest of a mature 8 point buck, was later shamed and > [@](#): > > “The principal’s quote to me was ‘we don’t have dead animals in school,’” Heidi told [OutdoorNews.com](http://OutdoorNews.com). “So, I asked her what they serve in the cafeteria?” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7452 "2017-01-18T05:20:21Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > No one wants to take your hunting rifles away? > > “Teacher shames young hunter at NE OH school: “Killing animals is not what we do”” > [Teacher shames young hunter at NE OH school: "Killing animals is not what we do" | Buckeye Firearms Association](https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/teacher-shames-young-hunter-ne-oh-school-killing-animals-not-what-we-do) Where in the article does it say anyone wanted to take anyone’s guns away? And, did you see the update? > [@Gun Fetish Blog](#): > > UPDATE: I’ve just been made aware that, on January 5, 2017, Highland Local Schools issued the following statement: > > "While the Highland Local School District respects the rich tradition of hunting that so many of our students and families share in Medina County, we are also aware that not every family hunts and not all children have been exposed to those types of images. > > "Approximately six weeks ago (on November 21), several children expressed concern to their teacher over an image on a shirt worn by a classmate. The teacher then took the student in the hall and quietly asked her to take the shirt off. The student complied. > > “Following a phone call from the student’s mother, an apology was issued almost immediately to the student and her family by the teacher, principal and superintendent.” No one’s guns were taken, the school made the required kowtow to the almighty gun, and life went on as it always does. Seriously, this is the kind of horror story that gun owners tell each other at bed time? This is the kind of thing that makes you fear for the loss of your precious lead spitters? ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7453 "2017-01-18T05:29:13Z")
Sounds more like it was a freedom of speech issue more than RTKBA. The point of the matter was that you call people out on small bullshit before they go onto making bigger asses of themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7454 "2017-01-18T13:50:53Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Thanks, I didn’t think this was complicated either. Yeah, we already have laws about that. How many more do you think we need? I’m happy to get in line wit you and condemn the father for his carelessness. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7455 "2017-01-18T13:56:48Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Visitors to the Missouri state Capitol are not allowed to bring guns into the building. So Rep. Nick Marshall is offering to lend a gun to any CCW holder who was not allowed to bring a gun inside. He posted on Facebook: > > He posted a similar sign on his office door. I’m not sure why his offer only extends to his own constituents. I guess other residents can go get weapons from their own representatives. Also AIUI (I am not a gun owner or lawyer) you can open carry in Missouri without a permit. It’s unclear to me if Marshall will only lend guns literally to CCW holders, or anyone who wants to tote around a gun in a building full of lawmakers. Also unclear to me is why Marshall will only hand out firearms. What if a constituent’s weapon of choice is a knife, blackjack, club, sword, or halberd? Can he check one of those out from Marshall? > [Missouri Lawmaker Would Love To Lend You His Gun When You Visit The Capitol - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nick-marshall-missouri-conceal-carry-gun-capitol) Gun folks use CCW licenses as a proxy for someone who have cleared a background check. This is in juxtaposition o the pro-gun’s antipathy towards licensing and registration. I believe the whole good guy with a gun makes some sense and licensing and registration furthers the policy goals of keeping guns in the hands of good guys. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7456 "2017-01-18T14:01:55Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Sounds more like it was a freedom of speech issue more than RTKBA. The point of the matter was that you call people out on small bullshit before they go onto making bigger asses of themselves. A lot of gun folks like to say that the second amendment is the one that protects all the others but they’re wrong. In the history of this country the first amendment has protected the second amendment a million times. The second amendment has only rarely been used to protect any of the others. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7457 "2017-01-20T03:51:50Z")
A 79-year-old resident of a senior apartment complex in St. Louis believed that an assistant manager of the complex had stolen money from his apartment. The resident, who we can only assume was a good guy with a gun up to this point, confronted the assistant manager and shot her in the chest, killing her. > **[Police identify victim killed in leasing office at St. Louis housing complex](https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/man-fatally-shoots-manager-of-st-louis-senior-housing-complex/article_5e750cb8-d56f-5969-a674-2a9ed73b8cee.html)** > > Police Lt. John Green of the homicide unit said the man complained that money had been taken from his apartment. No word on whether the money was recovered. But, hey, you can bet everyone will think twice before stealing from _that_ guy. So…defensive gun use? ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7458 "2017-01-20T16:19:14Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Where in the article does it say anyone wanted to take anyone’s guns away? And, did you see the update? > > No one’s guns were taken, the school made the required kowtow to the almighty gun, and life went on as it always does. > > Seriously, this is the kind of horror story that gun owners tell each other at bed time? This is the kind of thing that makes you fear for the loss of your precious lead spitters? I thought it exemplified: [ul] [li]the mindset of people who consider hunting barbaric and who would ban the “murder” of animals if they could, and[/li][li]the people so hoplophobic that the very representation of a gun leads them to feel threatened.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7459 "2017-01-20T16:25:12Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I thought it exemplified: > [ul] > [li]the mindset of people who consider hunting barbaric and who would ban the “murder” of animals if they could, and[/li][li]the people so hoplophobic that the very representation of a gun leads them to feel threatened.[/li][/ul] So you’re engaged in hyperbolic [nutpicking](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nutpicking). Weak. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7460 "2017-01-20T16:41:33Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I thought it exemplified: > [ul] > [li]the mindset of people who consider hunting barbaric and who would ban the “murder” of animals if they could, and[/li][li]the people so hoplophobic that the very representation of a gun leads them to feel threatened.[/li][/ul] Yes, those theoretical people suck. Now, how many of them are in a position such that they can influence gun laws to the point that there is a real threat of hunting rifles being taken away? How reasonable is your fear of losing access to hunting rifles, based on the actions of some elementary school teacher in some backwater school district? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=372) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=374)